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"CM 7-16"
This is it. There is now a wooden cutout that they stick their heads through to take a pie. There's also no more water. I think CM is finally dead. Well, it is for me at least since this basically precludes hair pies (and wetlook). So yeah, I can finally reclaim an hour on each Sunday.
Who's psyched about Game of Thrones tonight!
(Also, I'm working on some new edits)
Who's psyched about Game of Thrones tonight!
(Also, I'm working on some new edits)
I was a big fan/defender of this show for a while, but it's been dead to me for months now. Small pies made of cement combined with unwilling female targets devoid of any charisma was not really a combination worth watching.
I'd love nothing more than a return to the 'good old days', where the likes of Dani, Barb, Julia and Karla got pelted with big, gloopy pies on a semi-regular basis.
I feel as if I should mention a special thanks to you for all of your CM edits, though. It's not gone unnoticed. I just don't think CM is worth your time any more haha.
I'd love nothing more than a return to the 'good old days', where the likes of Dani, Barb, Julia and Karla got pelted with big, gloopy pies on a semi-regular basis.
I feel as if I should mention a special thanks to you for all of your CM edits, though. It's not gone unnoticed. I just don't think CM is worth your time any more haha.
Eh, it hasn't been much, but it's still pushed out decent material over the past few months. I did quite like the wetlook also.
But, in retrospect, it has provided us with more high quality material -- 467 clips -- than any other show ever has (and likely ever will).
Also, the show decides to die just as I figure out how to record the stream directly -.-
But, in retrospect, it has provided us with more high quality material -- 467 clips -- than any other show ever has (and likely ever will).
Also, the show decides to die just as I figure out how to record the stream directly -.-
ABGamma said: This is it. There is now a wooden cutout that they stick their heads through to take a pie. There's also no more water. I think CM is finally dead. Well, it is for me at least since this basically precludes hair pies (and wetlook). So yeah, I can finally reclaim an hour on each Sunday.
Who's psyched about Game of Thrones tonight!
(Also, I'm working on some new edits)
Who's psyched about Game of Thrones tonight!
(Also, I'm working on some new edits)
Glad I didn't watch that wast of time,
Yeah can't wait for game of thrones , House Lannister all the way.
Today, they officially drove a stake through the chest of Chega Mais, CM, CM2 and CM3. This show is dead.
Eh, the show was basically dead when they did the outdoor stuff with CM2 (?). It never really recovered. This entire "season" was basically a colossal waste with the exception of one good show. Never thought I'd say it, but Dani brought out the best in CM. Ah well.....
So the Latin Pie Era (2014-2017) is officially over. Too bad. I really did think there would be at least ONE show to step up while CM did their death throes for the last 6 months. Guess not.
Not sure which is better: The Domingo Legal approach, where you take a show that's still pretty good and just kill it overnight.... or the CM approach, where you slowly strangle the life out of a show for months until you just want it put out of its misery. Neither one is ideal.
Silver lining: Now you guys can go back to buying clips and supporting producers!!
So the Latin Pie Era (2014-2017) is officially over. Too bad. I really did think there would be at least ONE show to step up while CM did their death throes for the last 6 months. Guess not.
Not sure which is better: The Domingo Legal approach, where you take a show that's still pretty good and just kill it overnight.... or the CM approach, where you slowly strangle the life out of a show for months until you just want it put out of its misery. Neither one is ideal.
Silver lining: Now you guys can go back to buying clips and supporting producers!!
ABGamma said:
Eh, I've got a backlog of like 200 clips to edit.
SStuff said:
Silver lining: Now you guys can go back to buying clips and supporting producers!!
Silver lining: Now you guys can go back to buying clips and supporting producers!!
Eh, I've got a backlog of like 200 clips to edit.
I already edited all the good ones (2015-16). You're covered. Buy away!
Regis said:
True that. I'm going to start buying twice as many Slapstick Stuff clips as I used to!
SStuff said: Silver lining: Now you guys can go back to buying clips and supporting producers!!
True that. I'm going to start buying twice as many Slapstick Stuff clips as I used to!
Awesome! In your honor I'm gonna do twice as many mud scenes as I used to!
Adding insult to injury the men actually won this episode. They haven't won since cell phones flipped open. Cameron Diaz chick was in line for the pie finale. She hasn't taken a decent pie since Chega Mais. However, the brains behind this program concluded that viewers would rather see Cameron Diaz chick walk away clean rather than buried under a mountain of pies! So they cancelled the pie finale too! Man, talk about a CRUEL TEASE. CM wasn't satisfied with merely ending its association with pies. They sucker punched all their pie invested male viewers then hung a sign on the wall reading WAMMERS NO LONGER WELCOME!
criticism unwarranted said: However, the brains behind this program concluded that viewers would rather see Cameron Diaz chick walk away clean rather than buried under a mountain of pies!
...Or, you know, just getting one shitty pie to the face like the male losers have received for the last 2 months (or since cell phones flipped open, I guess).
It's been fun having you be the weekly CM critic there, CU. Good luck in your next forum!
CM is like Phil Collins.
Once loved in the 1980's......then developed a repetitive and monotonous style of music, and today he is wildly mocked and reviled in the music industry, not only with music fans...but especially by his peers in the music industry. He managed to turn a great group Genesis into pabulum pop. He periodically tries to make a comeback, but as one of the leading music critics said "please, no....there is enough suffering in the world already".
A slow death for a tv series is not good.....better to go out with a big bang....like the UK tv series "Blakes 7".....which builds to a climax and then everybody dies in the final episode....which is how they should end the CM series.....e.g. the contestants get so pissed off with all their pie-abuse, they revolt and grab the gameshow hostess and tie her to a post and sentence her to death by pie-firing squad.
Once loved in the 1980's......then developed a repetitive and monotonous style of music, and today he is wildly mocked and reviled in the music industry, not only with music fans...but especially by his peers in the music industry. He managed to turn a great group Genesis into pabulum pop. He periodically tries to make a comeback, but as one of the leading music critics said "please, no....there is enough suffering in the world already".
A slow death for a tv series is not good.....better to go out with a big bang....like the UK tv series "Blakes 7".....which builds to a climax and then everybody dies in the final episode....which is how they should end the CM series.....e.g. the contestants get so pissed off with all their pie-abuse, they revolt and grab the gameshow hostess and tie her to a post and sentence her to death by pie-firing squad.
Do unto others, then run
Mark K.: you must have missed 'American Psycho' with Christian Bale explaining the virtue of Collins' 'Su-Su-sudio' 
Guy: instead of lamenting the continuous moribund status of CM....has any thought of actually WRITING to the producers of the show (easy to find a Portuguese interpreter, or, learn to use google translate (correctly)...? Or even enlist the aid of a Brazilian umd-er to help with a letter writing campaign? Producers tend to be responsive to viewers complaints and criticisms (they're consumers of the advertised products, etc.)....now, yo may not feel it's worth the effort, but think about how many lengthy (plaintive) comments are posted here every week...when one well -crafted letter to the right person would be more productive...
i realize it may b too late now...but there could always be a future production or spin-off
I personally don't care THAT much (why I have never complained; twas always a free gift in my view)
Guy: instead of lamenting the continuous moribund status of CM....has any thought of actually WRITING to the producers of the show (easy to find a Portuguese interpreter, or, learn to use google translate (correctly)...? Or even enlist the aid of a Brazilian umd-er to help with a letter writing campaign? Producers tend to be responsive to viewers complaints and criticisms (they're consumers of the advertised products, etc.)....now, yo may not feel it's worth the effort, but think about how many lengthy (plaintive) comments are posted here every week...when one well -crafted letter to the right person would be more productive...
i realize it may b too late now...but there could always be a future production or spin-off
I personally don't care THAT much (why I have never complained; twas always a free gift in my view)
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wamtec said: CM is like Phil Collins.
Once loved in the 1980's......then developed a repetitive and monotonous style of music, and today he is wildly mocked and reviled in the music industry, not only with music fans...but especially by his peers in the music industry. He managed to turn a great group Genesis into pabulum pop. He periodically tries to make a comeback, but as one of the leading music critics said "please, no....there is enough suffering in the world already".
A slow death for a tv series is not good.....better to go out with a big bang....like the UK tv series "Blakes 7".....which builds to a climax and then everybody dies in the final episode....which is how they should end the CM series.....e.g. the contestants get so pissed off with all their pie-abuse, they revolt and grab the gameshow hostess and tie her to a post and sentence her to death by pie-firing squad.
Once loved in the 1980's......then developed a repetitive and monotonous style of music, and today he is wildly mocked and reviled in the music industry, not only with music fans...but especially by his peers in the music industry. He managed to turn a great group Genesis into pabulum pop. He periodically tries to make a comeback, but as one of the leading music critics said "please, no....there is enough suffering in the world already".
A slow death for a tv series is not good.....better to go out with a big bang....like the UK tv series "Blakes 7".....which builds to a climax and then everybody dies in the final episode....which is how they should end the CM series.....e.g. the contestants get so pissed off with all their pie-abuse, they revolt and grab the gameshow hostess and tie her to a post and sentence her to death by pie-firing squad.
HAHA... A few years ago your analogy would've been spot-on. Unfortunately, ol' Phil has enjoyed a pretty big critical/commercial resurgence in the last year so that doesn't work anymore.
https://consequenceofsound.net/2016/02/take-a-look-at-phil-now-an-interview-with-phil-collins/
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/18/arts/music/phil-collins-memoir-singles-interview.html
Who knows?? Maybe CM will return in 5 years with original cast and original pies and we'll be all, "YES!!!" And Criticism Unwarranted will return to the UMD like he never left!!
But sorry, Mark, I called the hostess never ever getting pied. Even if the 5-year-comeback happens. She's staying 100% clean.
wamajama said:
Guy: instead of lamenting the continuous moribund status of CM....has any thought of actually WRITING to the producers of the show (easy to find a Portuguese interpreter, or, learn to use google translate (correctly)...? Or even enlist the aid of a Brazilian umd-er to help with a letter writing campaign? Producers tend to be responsive to viewers complaints and criticisms (they're consumers of the advertised products, etc.)....now, yo may not feel it's worth the effort, but think about how many lengthy (plaintive) comments are posted here every week...when one well -crafted letter to the right person would be more productive...
i realize it may b too late now...but there could always be a future production or spin-off
I personally don't care THAT much (why I have never complained; twas always a free gift in my view)
Guy: instead of lamenting the continuous moribund status of CM....has any thought of actually WRITING to the producers of the show (easy to find a Portuguese interpreter, or, learn to use google translate (correctly)...? Or even enlist the aid of a Brazilian umd-er to help with a letter writing campaign? Producers tend to be responsive to viewers complaints and criticisms (they're consumers of the advertised products, etc.)....now, yo may not feel it's worth the effort, but think about how many lengthy (plaintive) comments are posted here every week...when one well -crafted letter to the right person would be more productive...
i realize it may b too late now...but there could always be a future production or spin-off
I personally don't care THAT much (why I have never complained; twas always a free gift in my view)
Letter writing feels like something that could've happened in the 80s... Maybe the early 90s.... Not today.
Back when the show was still good, some of us DID take to the current version of letter writing: Social media. We'd post on the show's official IG page (and sometimes the model page too). Mostly it was along the lines of trying to encourage the show to show some gender equality.... This is back when they were high on "the twins" and most shows consisted of those idiots getting covered in pies, to the point where the game was clearly rigged because that's what the "fans" wanted.
ANYWAY. The long-and-short is that the show didn't respond to criticism well, and I think one guy even got blocked from posting! Eventually we realized that CM was a rudderless boat, and basically changed direction with no rhyme or reason. (And certainly not because of a few dozen comments online.) The show, honestly, became easier to take when you weren't remotely invested and just assumed it would suck all the time.
Also, unrelated: I did send messages to RedeTV (in Portuguese!) when their YT channel stopped uploading clips, or the website had errors. Didn't get responses. One (pretty good) clip never did get uploaded correctly on their site. Shame. My thinking was they ignored feedback mostly because they were a shoestring operation where the employees had too much on their plates already.
I think while the show has generally turned out to be garbage for us going forward, the people producing it definitely have a vision for where they'd like to take it. They're putting a much larger emphasis on the personalities visiting the show.
Kind of ironically, the guy who was originally in charge left because the show was becoming too much of the pies/mess, which wasn't in keeping with his vision for it. Now it's going back in that direction.
Kind of ironically, the guy who was originally in charge left because the show was becoming too much of the pies/mess, which wasn't in keeping with his vision for it. Now it's going back in that direction.
ABGamma said: I think while the show has generally turned out to be garbage for us going forward, the people producing it definitely have a vision for where they'd like to take it. They're putting a much larger emphasis on the personalities visiting the show.
Kind of ironically, the guy who was originally in charge left because the show was becoming too much of the pies/mess, which wasn't in keeping with his vision for it. Now it's going back in that direction.
Kind of ironically, the guy who was originally in charge left because the show was becoming too much of the pies/mess, which wasn't in keeping with his vision for it. Now it's going back in that direction.
The emphasis now is on presenting a variety of games. They've don't want to be known as that "pie-program".
However, I can't see this game format yielding results. It's so lifeless and uneventful I can't imagine any person who hasn't suffered a catastrophic brain injury watching this for 90 minutes and not wanting to jump out the window. (I will lock all my windows before watching next week.)
Just how bad is CM3.5? It's so bad that it undercuts Curly's talents.
There's no way CM survives until March 2018 sans pies. Therefore, the pies will have to make a comeback. They'll probably throw in the towel before September. Knowing that the end is near the pies will return for the last leg of the program.
Rich said
>But sorry, Mark, I called the hostess never ever getting pied. Even if the 5-year-comeback happens. She's staying 100% clean.
Note to self....then I will have to place her face on my dartboard next to my number 1 most disliked person, Olivia Munn....whom I criticized on my Youtube channel for her famous G4TV messy diving copout scene. I don't mind that she copped out and never did a proper dive into the giant chocolate pie and did not get her face messy, what I object to was her not respecting my free speech rights and my right to state a fact (i,e, she copped out) and then she filied a complaint with Youtube and then Youtube deleted my entire Youtube channel with over 200 videos deleted at the same time.
I have my own videos criticzed all the time, so I consider it only fair for us to criticize celebrities who fail to excecute a wam scene properly.
>But sorry, Mark, I called the hostess never ever getting pied. Even if the 5-year-comeback happens. She's staying 100% clean.
Note to self....then I will have to place her face on my dartboard next to my number 1 most disliked person, Olivia Munn....whom I criticized on my Youtube channel for her famous G4TV messy diving copout scene. I don't mind that she copped out and never did a proper dive into the giant chocolate pie and did not get her face messy, what I object to was her not respecting my free speech rights and my right to state a fact (i,e, she copped out) and then she filied a complaint with Youtube and then Youtube deleted my entire Youtube channel with over 200 videos deleted at the same time.
I have my own videos criticzed all the time, so I consider it only fair for us to criticize celebrities who fail to excecute a wam scene properly.
Do unto others, then run
wamtec said: what I object to was her not respecting my free speech rights and my right to state a fact (i,e, she copped out) and then she filied a complaint with Youtube and then Youtube deleted my entire Youtube channel with over 200 videos deleted at the same time.
At least you know the exact person (super famous celeb who wouldn't be caught dead being associated with WAM now) who got your account deleted.
I was "lucky" enough to have a troll create multiple sock puppet accounts to file multiple complaints against all my YT videos back in 2009. Overnight they were all removed for "violating community standards." Even the one with a fully clothed model talking about.... acting. (And never getting remotely messy.)
Meanwhile the same troll created a YT account solely to post my personal info and call me a "sick pervert"... and YT decided THAT account could stay.
It was bullshit on a level that made me seriously question whether to release free videos ever again... AKA, Part 432 of "Why the WAM Community Can't Have Nice Things." Eventually, I came back around, but it took a few years. It does help that YT has finally become aware of trolling and won't pull videos just because a few accounts flag it.
ABGamma said: They're putting a much larger emphasis on the personalities visiting the show.
Kind of ironically, the guy who was originally in charge left because the show was becoming too much of the pies/mess, which wasn't in keeping with his vision for it. Now it's going back in that direction.
Kind of ironically, the guy who was originally in charge left because the show was becoming too much of the pies/mess, which wasn't in keeping with his vision for it. Now it's going back in that direction.
As if there aren't already a FLOOD of BORING celebrity talk-shows or just talk-shows in general.
How ironic of them to complain about dull repetition of "too many pies, too much mess". Wrong, "geniuses". If you could count, you would see that in the totality of television, dumb pie-in-the-face shows are the rare exception, out of all the dumb shows, which is all shows.Rich: ...my "writing a letter" comment used the phrase in a generic sense (kind of like how some TV/video people still use the term 'taping a show"....one could certainly adapt this to modern digital media....now, perhaps this is a mute point now, or futile (as it is a foreign show)...but I have had some success in the past (not wam-related) by sending a well-written and well-informed (i.e., "professional" opinion) critique to a production company head...I did not get everything I wanted, but a couple of details were subsequently changed (following my sending of the critique)....that's all.....
A better idea would be for producers/fans here to collaborate on a game show idea/concept (or more than one) that THEY would like to see (including gags, punishments, clothing/wardrobe and "models")....maybe a Brazilian version of a Japanese game show (produced for an American internet audience)...and pitch it to a foreign production company that has done messy games in the past...of course, having advertisers on board at the start would help...
A better idea would be for producers/fans here to collaborate on a game show idea/concept (or more than one) that THEY would like to see (including gags, punishments, clothing/wardrobe and "models")....maybe a Brazilian version of a Japanese game show (produced for an American internet audience)...and pitch it to a foreign production company that has done messy games in the past...of course, having advertisers on board at the start would help...
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wamajama said: Rich: ...my "writing a letter" comment used the phrase in a generic sense (kind of like how some TV/video people still use the term 'taping a show"....one could certainly adapt this to modern digital media....now, perhaps this is a mute point now, or futile (as it is a foreign show)...but I have had some success in the past (not wam-related) by sending a well-written and well-informed (i.e., "professional" opinion) critique to a production company head...I did not get everything I wanted, but a couple of details were subsequently changed (following my sending of the critique)....that's all.....
A better idea would be for producers/fans here to collaborate on a game show idea/concept (or more than one) that THEY would like to see (including gags, punishments, clothing/wardrobe and "models")....maybe a Brazilian version of a Japanese game show (produced for an American internet audience)...and pitch it to a foreign production company that has done messy games in the past...of course, having advertisers on board at the start would help...
A better idea would be for producers/fans here to collaborate on a game show idea/concept (or more than one) that THEY would like to see (including gags, punishments, clothing/wardrobe and "models")....maybe a Brazilian version of a Japanese game show (produced for an American internet audience)...and pitch it to a foreign production company that has done messy games in the past...of course, having advertisers on board at the start would help...
Great points. I think it's basically harmless to contact these producers of mainstream television. Honestly, as a community if you look at our track record, it's basically spotless and definitively not like there are hoards of cretins out there creeping out innocents by being reckless and perverted.
Being professional is the key. Like you and others, I also enjoy stalking producers and non-wammers who might put out a comedy segment that involves WAM in it. Perfectly harmless stuff. I'll write them, introduce myself in a very professional manner and simply tell them how greatly I enjoyed their WAM segment/video/show/whatever. Clearly nothing out of the ordinary or creepy there. In fact, I tend to be very generous with the compliments I give them, describe in great detail how immensely I was aroused and entertained by their performance. I sincerely thank them for the gratification I received from them and ask and beg for more, giving them very specific instructions on what kind clothing and socks to wear, how they should wear their hair, what they should say and the manner of WAM which would give me even more enjoyment. I give them tips on improving things, sure. Undressing and rubbing themselves in their crotch, maybe inserting a blow job here and there, using outside props like a dildo (anal of course) and pretty funny stuff along those lines, things you'd hope people are already familiar with (ha, unless they're prudes or something!). Yes, I do like to give these amateurs a nice introduction to our scene and I do think that, provided one keeps things professional, the recipients are quite receptive to my ideas. Oh sure, none have ever done anything that I professionally requested, contacted me back or actually taken any of my advice, and yes others disappeared altogether or send restraining orders against me, but the fact is, in the big picture it's not a big deal and because I kept things professional, I see nothing wrong with it.
Enigmahood said:
Great points. I think it's basically harmless to contact these producers of mainstream television. Honestly, as a community if you look at our track record, it's basically spotless and definitively not like there are hoards of cretins out there creeping out innocents by being reckless and perverted.
Being professional is the key. Like you and others, I also enjoy stalking producers and non-wammers who might put out a comedy segment that involves WAM in it. Perfectly harmless stuff. I'll write them, introduce myself in a very professional manner and simply tell them how greatly I enjoyed their WAM segment/video/show/whatever. Clearly nothing out of the ordinary or creepy there. In fact, I tend to be very generous with the compliments I give them, describe in great detail how immensely I was aroused and entertained by their performance. I sincerely thank them for the gratification I received from them and ask and beg for more, giving them very specific instructions on what kind clothing and socks to wear, how they should wear their hair, what they should say and the manner of WAM which would give me even more enjoyment. I give them tips on improving things, sure. Undressing and rubbing themselves in their crotch, maybe inserting a blow job here and there, using outside props like a dildo (anal of course) and pretty funny stuff along those lines, things you'd hope people are already familiar with (ha, unless they're prudes or something!). Yes, I do like to give these amateurs a nice introduction to our scene and I do think that, provided one keeps things professional, the recipients are quite receptive to my ideas. Oh sure, none have ever done anything that I professionally requested, contacted me back or actually taken any of my advice, and yes others disappeared altogether or send restraining orders against me, but the fact is, in the big picture it's not a big deal and because I kept things professional, I see nothing wrong with it.
Great points. I think it's basically harmless to contact these producers of mainstream television. Honestly, as a community if you look at our track record, it's basically spotless and definitively not like there are hoards of cretins out there creeping out innocents by being reckless and perverted.
Being professional is the key. Like you and others, I also enjoy stalking producers and non-wammers who might put out a comedy segment that involves WAM in it. Perfectly harmless stuff. I'll write them, introduce myself in a very professional manner and simply tell them how greatly I enjoyed their WAM segment/video/show/whatever. Clearly nothing out of the ordinary or creepy there. In fact, I tend to be very generous with the compliments I give them, describe in great detail how immensely I was aroused and entertained by their performance. I sincerely thank them for the gratification I received from them and ask and beg for more, giving them very specific instructions on what kind clothing and socks to wear, how they should wear their hair, what they should say and the manner of WAM which would give me even more enjoyment. I give them tips on improving things, sure. Undressing and rubbing themselves in their crotch, maybe inserting a blow job here and there, using outside props like a dildo (anal of course) and pretty funny stuff along those lines, things you'd hope people are already familiar with (ha, unless they're prudes or something!). Yes, I do like to give these amateurs a nice introduction to our scene and I do think that, provided one keeps things professional, the recipients are quite receptive to my ideas. Oh sure, none have ever done anything that I professionally requested, contacted me back or actually taken any of my advice, and yes others disappeared altogether or send restraining orders against me, but the fact is, in the big picture it's not a big deal and because I kept things professional, I see nothing wrong with it.
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Seasons 1 and 2 CM had a person who responded to comments on their FB and IG. This job must've been eliminated for season 3. They've had no communication with their viewers in 2017 that I can see.
The articles I've come across say that RedeTV is in bad financial shape. The network invested money in CM (swimming pool, new games) because they believe the program is salvageable.
The odds that any communication is going to change their course is near zero (assuming anyone is there to read it). But try if you like.
The articles I've come across say that RedeTV is in bad financial shape. The network invested money in CM (swimming pool, new games) because they believe the program is salvageable.
The odds that any communication is going to change their course is near zero (assuming anyone is there to read it). But try if you like.
Can't go any worse than the guy who got blocked from posting on the official IG!
They did NOT like outsiders pointing out how idiotic the Twins and Curly were... Or how they got more pies than all the females combined....
They did NOT like outsiders pointing out how idiotic the Twins and Curly were... Or how they got more pies than all the females combined....
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