so i have been a longtime fan of mostwam content, and just noticed on the mostwam.com website that all of cassie's content has been deleted..... what hapened?

This question was asked by someone else a few months ago, but I don't think it was answered. In fact, I have an idea - and apologies if I've misremembered - that the thread might even have been deleted. If that's right then I don't know why, but all I can say is that I tried searching on "Cassie" just now, and that one didn't come up.

Obviously, models come and go, as they do from all WAM sites, and I know that over the years a few have unfortunately had to leave MostWam after cretins tracked them down on social media, but deletion of scenes would be unusual for them.

It's a puzzle.

The thread was not deleted: https://umd.net/forums/umd-exclusive-50-off-subs-on-mostwamtv
As the Moomins chose not to reply I suggest moving on

ah thats a shame, thanks for the replies

There has been a post about this before that I replied to, but the op deleted.

We were asked, so we took the media down.

LisaMoomin

I've always wanted to find the models on facebook just so that I can see the real people that I've supported financially. I would never interact with them

That I think is 100% a terrible idea.

Please don't....

We have personal lives, and boundaries must be respected.

For some of us, we have normie jobs that we do, for some we might not be "out" to family or friends about what we do, and so on.

Frankly, it's scary to know that people do actively try and track models down, and very possibly the reason videos may be removed and models disappear without notice.

Anyone that wishes to remove themselves from Wam websites should be able to, and should have the support of the Wam Community, whatever the reasons, and whether they give a reason or not.
I think I said on a post about someone else who left, sometimes I wish they would give a bit of notice, just so people can show their appreciation and gratitude before they leave,but I think most Wam models get a lot of positive feedback and know how much we appreciate their hard work.

I often think that It's bloody lucky I grew up when I did,
No social networking, and I don't do photographs, so there is pretty much nothing of me online, except for a Twitter account that Chef made me stop using for my own opinions/humour, because it may have put off patrons who don't like my liberal views,
So it must be horrible for these models who make Wam content, always worrying that someone they know or prospective employers may see their photos in the future, I realise there are safeguards in place, fake names etc..
In the age of piracy it must be increasingly hard to remove all the images from everywhere, you can take down the originals, but never know who else downloaded them

thankyou lisa

Relax people I am harmless but unfortunately there's many people out there that do pester and threaten the models.

Everyone says they're harmless until they prove otherwise.

Well, regardless, I wish Cassie all the best, she was (I assume still is) wonderfully bubbly and smiley. And the best mud dunkee ever.

That's very generous of you.

When I next buy a pint of milk I'll expect the cashier's name, address & a signed photo as I've supported them financially.

Leon's girls are making a few extra quid modelling for us which is amazing. However they do not expect us to then look them up online & furthermore attempt to justify this behaviour by means of the fact we've bought one of their videos.

this is why i have an only fans.

and recently made a tick tock account but purely for showing a few things here and there...
but my only fans?

is not all me getting nasty and taking dicks and stuff. its actually FOR FANS. yeah, i post some raunchy shit sometimes. i post free wam vids, free wetlook. chances to get stuff for free. chances to get pre releases.....but what you get is kinda like a facebook...i get on there with no make up...i do lives drinking coffee, asking about everyone.

bc here yo ucant really do that without being flagged for conversing too much on the forums. yes. this is a thing.

has happened to me before.

so? i started that. and i can converse and bitch and moan and get messy and wet and post about it all i want! plus, have my personal life on there as well

This, this, this. Back when I was a mod, I would scour the sites and submit take downs either directly to producers, or sometime on their behalf. In doing this, and in my searches I have unintentionally found some rabbit holes that have led me to models' social media (thankfully defunct).

My suggestion here is to go to a splunch. If you want to meet people in real life and maybe build a friendship, this is the way to do it. Any model that would go to one would be a person ok going out on that limb and interacting publicly.

Alternately, build a rapport with people here. If you do, they may be more willing to interact and or meet you somewhere else down the line (Vegas for instance).

Just please don't facebook stalk people...

Ah, the irony of a thread asking "Why has this WAM model mysteriously vanished?" including a post going "I want to track them down on Facebook"... Kinda answers the question in of itself, don't you think?

I was actually asked by someone at a recent Splunch about why more models don't attend them, or that if they do how in some cases they're so nervous to enter the pub yet are capable of stripping nude in front of a camera and posting it online.

My response was that the camera provides a level of anonymity, it doesn't judge or pry.

Most of us absolutely love what we do, but it doesn't mean we're open to harassment, sexual or otherwise, or creepy messages anymore than it does for someone who doesn't produce content.

I've had my fair share, sometimes I don't mind playing along but there is always a level of mutual consent which must be enthusiastically given and can be freely taken away by either person.

I hate to think of the messages some other models on here may receive.

So to summarise, please enjoy the content that we produce but unless there's an ongoing and mutual relationship/understanding, it stays within the confines of you watching the video/picture content.

OnlyFansbook?

It's my space, and it is only for me and my fans, and we shall call it...MySpace.

What.......... who on here had a problem with you conversing with people? Unless it was Rob with his paragraph and grammar "notes". LOL

I'll just say this:

OP's question was not inherently malicious.

They weren't asking for details or anything like that. They just said "There used to be content here, now this content is gone" that was that. I feel that some people are jumping to conclusions here and being a little too unfriendly and confrontational in a niche community that is intended to be fun... instead of just being like "The person in question requested it be removed" or something along those lines and that be the end of it. Because sometimes that really is all there is to it. Thats just life.

However... openly admitting that someone is interested in actually looking up a specific model, while not nessisarilly malicious in nature, is a bit creepy and off-putting, especially on a fetish forum of all places. If someone is open and ok with putting that kindof info out there such as Jayce's Onlyfans... thats different. But I do feel it's important to be mindful of people's boundaries.

I really love this community, so i think it's very critical that people work together to make the community a fun and exciting place to be apart of.

This entire conversation is off-topic(sorry OP) But there were quite some confrontational replies and I'd like to try and explain to you why people reacted this way.

I'm sure you're an okay dude that isn't looking to cause trouble, but asking around for personal information about models in itself already is malicious behaviour. You are trying to breach the important boundry between an erotic model's online 'persona' and her actual private person.

There might be more benign ways to get to know the person behind the modelling name. One way that comes to mind is ordering a custom with them where they get WAMmed... WAMed... WAM'd????? while answering your questions. This way:

1. You actually are supporting them financially to get to know them a bit better.
2. The model and producer can choose wether or not to participate at all.
3. The model controls the flow of information. She get's to decide what you know about her.
4. The boundry between you and the model stays the same. You don't have to know her name or where she lives. If you know her as Lucy, it doesn't matter to you if her real name is Queen Elizabeth, it's just Lucy to you.

In all fairness, I think it's important for you to realise that what you pay for is the online persona of the model, just like 'lady gaga' or 'daft punk' are persona's. It's not important or necessary to know more about them, as long as you enjoy what they do on-screen, that's all that matters. And that's all you are entitled to. You didn't meet at the pub, you don't know her and it is her right to simply prevent you from knowing her.

I truly hope you realise I'm not accusing you or are trying to be confrontational, I just wanted to explain why people reacted with emotion to your post

When I see these posts, I wonder how many models request their footage to be taken down, but are refused by the producer? From a legal standpoint, as I understand it, whoever funded the production owns the rights to the footage, so is not obligated to remove footage if a model requests it (unless there is a clause in their contract).

So, from a producer's legal viewpoint, if they have spent lots of money on a scene (especially if the scene involves other models too), only for one of the models to request it be removed from sale after having initially agreed to doing the scene and being paid, would they be legally in their right to refuse the request, or demand some compensation if they do agree?

Of course, I am thinking this through from a legal viewpoint, which as we all know is not the same as an ethical viewpoint.

From a legal standpoint the copyright holder can do what ever they wish with the footage so long as they don't defame anyone (this is UK law) The copyright holder being the person who produced the footage unless otherwise agreed. A model can request removal, this can be denied, the copyright holder cannot demand compensation as they aren't obliged to comply and there is no contract (unless there is).

That said as someone who has produced and starred in adult content, most good producers who are making content on a semi-casual bases (ie without contracts) will remove it as they would risk their relationships with other models etc if they doggedly refused to respect the wishes of someone who wanted out of the scene.

From the point of view of being a content creator and having people try and look you up on facebook.... This creeps me out and makes me very uncomfortable. I accept some responsibility as there are occasions where I have leant in to fans to make them feel at home on my pages and developed parasocial relationships with them for mutual benefit, which can inevitably get them quite emotionally invested. But I have my boundries and I sell content, thats my job and I do expect to be treated in the same way as any other vender of any other commodity and nothing more.

The whole problem isn't helped by nearly every girl (or guy) having varying degrees of what is acceptable as their boundries. while some are strictly remotely transactional others are happy to meet. but the onus is on you, the viewer to tread carefully and not assume anything.

Wow, the creepy as fuck weirdos that are out there have no idea how mental they sound.

wow ok...... made a simple question, and looks like all hell has broken loose... lesson learned, there was absolutly no malicious intent in my question, it was an honest question and i guess i wont be making that again,,, thanks to lisa for the reply and thanks to others. i in no way from my question tried to find any real life details.... ey ho lesson learned

No worries, the commotion wasn't caused by your question

I'm sorry for all the trouble I've caused. A lot of good points were raised by people which has helped me.

Your question was never the issue. There was nothing malicious about it, and the original thread is rather old now (also this site's search feature isn't the most accurate). Totally innocuous and open ended in how you worded it too.

No, the issue came about from the 6th post in about "wanting to find models on facebook" Regardless of whether that person meant any harm or not, that's what took the conversation down the rabbit hole we see so often here.


A person's identity can be a very fragile thing and not something to be taken lightly. But by all means, converse, go to events, you CAN build friendships and relationships. I have made some very dear friends with models, producers, and just other users here.