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"Advice on filling up an inflatable pool with shaving cream?"
I am going to be off from work for two weeks in February and am going to have another messy play session at an extended stay hotel during those two weeks. One thing I've always wanted to do but haven't been able to is fill up a smallish inflatable pool with shaving cream and just cream myself for hours on end. But what I don't know is just how many cans of shaving cream it is going to take to fill up the inflatable pool at least halfway. So I am hoping that my WAM veterans on here would be able to give me a good idea of just how many cans of shaving cream it would take to fill up a small inflatable pool with the size being roughly 20 inches wide and a little over 8ft in length. There's a picture of the kind of inflatable pool that I have in mind for reference in case anyone was curious about the size of the pool.
I also plan on cream pieing and sliming myself for hours in that same pool as well, so I'll definitely be in this for the long haul as far as committing to playing in it. That means this will be on a hard tile hotel room floor, so any tips you'd have for comfort as well would be immensely appreciated! Thanks for your helpful advice everyone!!!
I also plan on cream pieing and sliming myself for hours in that same pool as well, so I'll definitely be in this for the long haul as far as committing to playing in it. That means this will be on a hard tile hotel room floor, so any tips you'd have for comfort as well would be immensely appreciated! Thanks for your helpful advice everyone!!!
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That probably would require something like 40-50 cans. 8 feet is a lot of length. So if you wanted to cover the entire surface with several inches of cream, you'll probably need a lot. I've ordered sets of 24 from Amazon, it's possible that two of those would do the trick.
As for comfort, a yoga mat could work if the surface beneath is soft. I have very hard wooden floors, and a yoga mat isn't quite enough. I usually put an air mattress underneath and wrap the whole apparatus in a plastic drop cloth. I also tend to fall into the pool from a decent height (2-3 feet off the ground), so I really require a soft landing. Take what you will from that!
As for comfort, a yoga mat could work if the surface beneath is soft. I have very hard wooden floors, and a yoga mat isn't quite enough. I usually put an air mattress underneath and wrap the whole apparatus in a plastic drop cloth. I also tend to fall into the pool from a decent height (2-3 feet off the ground), so I really require a soft landing. Take what you will from that!
I really recommend putting something soft down underneath the pool i used a gel memory foam pad when i had my pool . As for the number of cans you will probably need about 50-60 but shaving foam does expand a bit so keep that in mind.
build a pie pod and they will come.
flank said:
Maybe put down a yoga mat underneath?
relax22 said: That means this will be on a hard tile hotel room floor, so any tips you'd have for comfort as well would be immensely appreciated!
Maybe put down a yoga mat underneath?
From camping stores you can get "self inflating sleep mats", as an alternative to air beds. We put a double one under our dungeon paddling pool, makes things much softer for the girls.
This kind of thing:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Eurohike-Camper-Double-Self-Inflating-Blue/dp/B087M1529T/ref=mp_s_a_1_17
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I seem to remember an established wammer reported on these pages that her and her husband tried this and it had an unexpected effect. Apparently long term (relatively) immersion in a lot of shaving foam affected their skin and they had to resort to remedial treatment. The bad thing about this is I cannot now call to mind who it was, otherwise you could approach them for advice. I wonder if any other forumites recall this from a couple of years ago? I hope so, in order that you either know what you are in for, or take steps to avoid any rashes etc.
That was Polish Phil and ZTD (I think they've changed their forum names though?).
I think spending hours in soap, or anything for that matter, including water, probably ain't so great for your skin.
I think spending hours in soap, or anything for that matter, including water, probably ain't so great for your skin.
Having had extended play sessions in pools of this type over the years, I heartily agree with what everybody else said, especially the air mattress. Yoga mats don't have enough padding for me. One of the problems with shaving cream on the skin for an extended period of time is that it will dry you out. I was not aware of this during my first play session with a girl in college and we got a little carried away and lost track of time. Two hours later our skin was red like we'd been sunburned and we were itching like crazy. We found that by applying some moisturizing lotion all over beforehand we could extend that time to closer to three hours, and it meant full-body massages with lotion before the real show. 
One last thing...if you've played with shaving cream before, you know that having to keep the tops of those cans depressed until they're empty is agony on the thumbs after about eight cans. If you're going for 40+, definitely lay in a stock of C-clamps from the hardware store. They'll save you days of soreness. Other than that, good luck and have fun.
One last thing...if you've played with shaving cream before, you know that having to keep the tops of those cans depressed until they're empty is agony on the thumbs after about eight cans. If you're going for 40+, definitely lay in a stock of C-clamps from the hardware store. They'll save you days of soreness. Other than that, good luck and have fun.
I think it could be more than 50 cans, you might want an inflatable bath tub. Not as much room to roll about but it uses less, see my videos!
If you look at my videos and pictures, I filled a standard bathtub (around 2 feet deep) with shaving foam, and then around another 2 feet above that using a board to prevent the foam spilling over the side. That took about 120 cans altogether comprising of 50 X 400ml cans and the rest were 250ml cans. Obviously my session was extreme so you won't need as many as that.
What you also have to consider is that once you climb in, you'll displace the foam by the volume of your body. My foam bath got about a foot deeper once I was in there and sat down up to my neck in the stuff. I've found in the past that you can do a submersion in a standard bath tub with as few as 40 X 400ml cans of foam. Obviously you'd only have a few inches above your head when submerged, but it would still be fun.
What you also have to consider is that once you climb in, you'll displace the foam by the volume of your body. My foam bath got about a foot deeper once I was in there and sat down up to my neck in the stuff. I've found in the past that you can do a submersion in a standard bath tub with as few as 40 X 400ml cans of foam. Obviously you'd only have a few inches above your head when submerged, but it would still be fun.
Also just to tie off a few other points mentioned above. First with regards to shaving foam and the skin. It all depends on the type of foam you use. I always opt for 'sensitive' products as they contain moisturisers. Bog standard shaving foam is quite hard on the skin because it has to soften facial hair to work properly. The sensitive versions arent as harsh. Also avoid menthol foams like the plague if you're submerging. If they get in your eyes it's horrible. However some people like the menthol ones when not submerging because they 'tingle' the body.
In terms of losing the shape and texture, it depends on the quality of the product. Cheaper foams like Erasmic in the UK are poor quality - they're more like hair mousse and become "thin' very quickly. I've always opted for using Insignia, Sabre and Sainsbury's own brand here in the UK. I can spend upwards of 2 hours dispensing a 4ft deep foam bath, and play in it for 1.5 hours and those foams are still thick and creamy after all the that time. Someone once told m shaving foam is a bit like paint. If you keep moving it around, it retains its properties far longer than just leaving it.
Finally regarding dispensing and hurting fingers. Been there, done that many times, and came up with a solution. Depending on the nozzle type, I used a small plank of wood and arranged the cans in a 2x5 shape to allow 10 cans to be dispensed at once. Put a piece of play dough on the centre of each nozzle then gently pressed the plank onto the cans. Lifted it up and the dough marked the position of a each nozzle. I then simply drove 10 screws into the wood at the location of each dough ball. This meant that I could then put 10 cans in the bath in the 2x5 shape, put the plank on top, and then lean on it with my weight. The screws would press each of the nozzles at the same time meaning you could empty 10 cans in about 2 minutes. I've also seen other ways such as using ratchet F-Clamps which close on the bottom of the can and the nozzle, but this still means you're only emptying one can at a time.
In terms of losing the shape and texture, it depends on the quality of the product. Cheaper foams like Erasmic in the UK are poor quality - they're more like hair mousse and become "thin' very quickly. I've always opted for using Insignia, Sabre and Sainsbury's own brand here in the UK. I can spend upwards of 2 hours dispensing a 4ft deep foam bath, and play in it for 1.5 hours and those foams are still thick and creamy after all the that time. Someone once told m shaving foam is a bit like paint. If you keep moving it around, it retains its properties far longer than just leaving it.
Finally regarding dispensing and hurting fingers. Been there, done that many times, and came up with a solution. Depending on the nozzle type, I used a small plank of wood and arranged the cans in a 2x5 shape to allow 10 cans to be dispensed at once. Put a piece of play dough on the centre of each nozzle then gently pressed the plank onto the cans. Lifted it up and the dough marked the position of a each nozzle. I then simply drove 10 screws into the wood at the location of each dough ball. This meant that I could then put 10 cans in the bath in the 2x5 shape, put the plank on top, and then lean on it with my weight. The screws would press each of the nozzles at the same time meaning you could empty 10 cans in about 2 minutes. I've also seen other ways such as using ratchet F-Clamps which close on the bottom of the can and the nozzle, but this still means you're only emptying one can at a time.
If you see my scene 'kacie gunging and the giant pie' video I believe that was a 500 litre pool, and to get it to a good depth I had to use 400 cans of shaving cream, and it took 8 hours to fill it, and I had to use clamps to hold the spray buttons down because my hands were cramping.
I spent a year gradually collecting enough shaving foam from every source I could find.
Be sure of good ventilation! The aerosol fumes are not playing
Anyway my advice would be to use a very small pool or just the bathtub. If you want really good coverage for a full bathtub, hotel ones can be quite small so you might get away with 50 to 60 cans
https://umd.net/download_info/kacie-gunging-and-giant-pie
I spent a year gradually collecting enough shaving foam from every source I could find.
Be sure of good ventilation! The aerosol fumes are not playing
Anyway my advice would be to use a very small pool or just the bathtub. If you want really good coverage for a full bathtub, hotel ones can be quite small so you might get away with 50 to 60 cans
https://umd.net/download_info/kacie-gunging-and-giant-pie
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Oh and as for comfort, if you do go for a pool on a tiled floor, put down a thin duvet or a few blankets under it - your knees will be very grateful
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I find shaving foam is way too hard on my skin for any prolonged WAM play, particularly naked. Even the sensitive brands! But this seems to vary a lot between different people, otherwise nobody would be playing with it. So I'd recommend testing with a single can of your brand first, before buying 40+
Shaving foam was the last thing I got into I used 4 cans and covered myself pretty well but with the tub a few things to consider that where already mentioned
Ventilation
The brand you use test it out an yourself first
Under the pool how your back and body feels with everything going on.
Having a clearing to and from the pool
Having the cans all already ready to go so your thumbs don't get sore
Also having someone to check in with after to see how your doing physically and emotionally in case your skin does start to hurt someone can help you recover faster like an accountability partner
I would also consider testing out ways your going to clean up and move everything around once your done.
Ventilation
The brand you use test it out an yourself first
Under the pool how your back and body feels with everything going on.
Having a clearing to and from the pool
Having the cans all already ready to go so your thumbs don't get sore
Also having someone to check in with after to see how your doing physically and emotionally in case your skin does start to hurt someone can help you recover faster like an accountability partner
I would also consider testing out ways your going to clean up and move everything around once your done.
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In addition to the above, clearing away those volumes of foam does take a LOT of time and effort. The clean-up time for my foam baths is about 1.5 to 2 hours. It's far easier clearing up in a bathtub than a paddling pool too.
My process involves standing up and showering off the foam stuck to me, obviously with the exception my my legs which are still in there. I step out and use a towel to get rid of it on my legs.
To get rid of the foam in the tub, I use the shower on cold so it's more powerful, and simply blast the foam with it. Eventually it starts to break down into something with the consistency of thin soup, which is thin enough to go down the plughole. I just keep blasting away until it's all gone, but a 4ft deep foam bath still takes just under an hour to break down and flush away.
The rest of the time is clearing up and disposing of all the spent cans and ensuring that any foam that hasnoversprayed anywhere is cleared up. Once all this is done, I strip off again and then have a good old normal shower to fully clean up.
My process involves standing up and showering off the foam stuck to me, obviously with the exception my my legs which are still in there. I step out and use a towel to get rid of it on my legs.
To get rid of the foam in the tub, I use the shower on cold so it's more powerful, and simply blast the foam with it. Eventually it starts to break down into something with the consistency of thin soup, which is thin enough to go down the plughole. I just keep blasting away until it's all gone, but a 4ft deep foam bath still takes just under an hour to break down and flush away.
The rest of the time is clearing up and disposing of all the spent cans and ensuring that any foam that hasnoversprayed anywhere is cleared up. Once all this is done, I strip off again and then have a good old normal shower to fully clean up.
Has anyone tried using shaving sticks? They look a bit like a bar of soap: the idea is to grate them, then mix them with warm water. (I think this is the "old school" approach, before spray cans were invented.)
If you only want 1 or 2 pies, it's much easier to use a can. However, if you're using hundreds (!) of cans, maybe sticks would work better? Particularly if you can use electrical tools to help.
If you only want 1 or 2 pies, it's much easier to use a can. However, if you're using hundreds (!) of cans, maybe sticks would work better? Particularly if you can use electrical tools to help.
If you don't need the full 8ft length of the pool- you can fold the end up against the wall and have deeper foam as a result.
Also does the layout of the hotel room (/bathroom) allow enough space for an 8ft pool?
--The pool I'm in in my profile pic was an 8ft-er, the half behind the camera is propped up over the toilet and the other end rolled up the wall behind me- I only inflated the top ring of the pool because the bathroom space was so tight!
Also does the layout of the hotel room (/bathroom) allow enough space for an 8ft pool?
--The pool I'm in in my profile pic was an 8ft-er, the half behind the camera is propped up over the toilet and the other end rolled up the wall behind me- I only inflated the top ring of the pool because the bathroom space was so tight!
Wow, lots of great advice from everyone! Here's my two cents:
First, if you don't need the full 8ft I highly recommend dividing it somehow so you can get the best submersion experience possible with a deeper pool of foam. 40 cans should do it but the more the merrier (I prefer using 50-60 myself)!
Second, the type of shaving foam you use matters along with how you prep it and spray. I use sensitive skin Barbasol cause of the richness and it holds up well for a while. A great tip I learned years ago is to let the cans sit in warm water for a bit before using them. It expels more foam when you spray that way, just make sure to keep the can level the whole time and don't let go of the nozzle till it runs out. I use clamps to save both my fingers and to save time as shaving foam starts breaking down once exposed to air out of the can. Spray as quickly as possible and start your session shortly after to get the best out of it.
And lastly, if you plan on adding water at some point to make shaving foam slime use as little water as possible while mixing it thoroughly. The more the foam is moved around the more it breaks down so not a lot of water is needed to get it flowing if you're mixing it good and well.
Hope those tips help and have fun!
First, if you don't need the full 8ft I highly recommend dividing it somehow so you can get the best submersion experience possible with a deeper pool of foam. 40 cans should do it but the more the merrier (I prefer using 50-60 myself)!
Second, the type of shaving foam you use matters along with how you prep it and spray. I use sensitive skin Barbasol cause of the richness and it holds up well for a while. A great tip I learned years ago is to let the cans sit in warm water for a bit before using them. It expels more foam when you spray that way, just make sure to keep the can level the whole time and don't let go of the nozzle till it runs out. I use clamps to save both my fingers and to save time as shaving foam starts breaking down once exposed to air out of the can. Spray as quickly as possible and start your session shortly after to get the best out of it.
And lastly, if you plan on adding water at some point to make shaving foam slime use as little water as possible while mixing it thoroughly. The more the foam is moved around the more it breaks down so not a lot of water is needed to get it flowing if you're mixing it good and well.
Hope those tips help and have fun!
hooliham said: That probably would require something like 40-50 cans. 8 feet is a lot of length. So if you wanted to cover the entire surface with several inches of cream, you'll probably need a lot. I've ordered sets of 24 from Amazon, it's possible that two of those would do the trick.
As for comfort, a yoga mat could work if the surface beneath is soft. I have very hard wooden floors, and a yoga mat isn't quite enough. I usually put an air mattress underneath and wrap the whole apparatus in a plastic drop cloth. I also tend to fall into the pool from a decent height (2-3 feet off the ground), so I really require a soft landing. Take what you will from that!
As for comfort, a yoga mat could work if the surface beneath is soft. I have very hard wooden floors, and a yoga mat isn't quite enough. I usually put an air mattress underneath and wrap the whole apparatus in a plastic drop cloth. I also tend to fall into the pool from a decent height (2-3 feet off the ground), so I really require a soft landing. Take what you will from that!
I'm a huge fan of your work Hooliham, so I'm very grateful for the advice you've given me! 40-50 cans definitely lines up with what my original rough guesstimate was, and I didn't even consider the floor comfort factor so thank you very much for your input on that front as well!
sadblue said: Having had extended play sessions in pools of this type over the years, I heartily agree with what everybody else said, especially the air mattress. Yoga mats don't have enough padding for me. One of the problems with shaving cream on the skin for an extended period of time is that it will dry you out. I was not aware of this during my first play session with a girl in college and we got a little carried away and lost track of time. Two hours later our skin was red like we'd been sunburned and we were itching like crazy. We found that by applying some moisturizing lotion all over beforehand we could extend that time to closer to three hours, and it meant full-body massages with lotion before the real show.
One last thing...if you've played with shaving cream before, you know that having to keep the tops of those cans depressed until they're empty is agony on the thumbs after about eight cans. If you're going for 40+, definitely lay in a stock of C-clamps from the hardware store. They'll save you days of soreness. Other than that, good luck and have fun.
One last thing...if you've played with shaving cream before, you know that having to keep the tops of those cans depressed until they're empty is agony on the thumbs after about eight cans. If you're going for 40+, definitely lay in a stock of C-clamps from the hardware store. They'll save you days of soreness. Other than that, good luck and have fun.
Thank goodness for your tip about the moisturizing lotion, and the C clamps! I've run into that problem with cans of shaving cream so many times and it's been hell every single time lol. Also, the effect wallowing in shaving cream for an extended period of time would have on my skin never occurred to me so you've saved me the itchy pain of having to go through that too! Thank you very much for lending your advice to a novice!
anthony10 said: Wow, lots of great advice from everyone! Here's my two cents:
First, if you don't need the full 8ft I highly recommend dividing it somehow so you can get the best submersion experience possible with a deeper pool of foam. 40 cans should do it but the more the merrier (I prefer using 50-60 myself)!
Second, the type of shaving foam you use matters along with how you prep it and spray. I use sensitive skin Barbasol cause of the richness and it holds up well for a while. A great tip I learned years ago is to let the cans sit in warm water for a bit before using them. It expels more foam when you spray that way, just make sure to keep the can level the whole time and don't let go of the nozzle till it runs out. I use clamps to save both my fingers and to save time as shaving foam starts breaking down once exposed to air out of the can. Spray as quickly as possible and start your session shortly after to get the best out of it.
And lastly, if you plan on adding water at some point to make shaving foam slime use as little water as possible while mixing it thoroughly. The more the foam is moved around the more it breaks down so not a lot of water is needed to get it flowing if you're mixing it good and well.
Hope those tips help and have fun!
First, if you don't need the full 8ft I highly recommend dividing it somehow so you can get the best submersion experience possible with a deeper pool of foam. 40 cans should do it but the more the merrier (I prefer using 50-60 myself)!
Second, the type of shaving foam you use matters along with how you prep it and spray. I use sensitive skin Barbasol cause of the richness and it holds up well for a while. A great tip I learned years ago is to let the cans sit in warm water for a bit before using them. It expels more foam when you spray that way, just make sure to keep the can level the whole time and don't let go of the nozzle till it runs out. I use clamps to save both my fingers and to save time as shaving foam starts breaking down once exposed to air out of the can. Spray as quickly as possible and start your session shortly after to get the best out of it.
And lastly, if you plan on adding water at some point to make shaving foam slime use as little water as possible while mixing it thoroughly. The more the foam is moved around the more it breaks down so not a lot of water is needed to get it flowing if you're mixing it good and well.
Hope those tips help and have fun!
Phenomenal advice because I didn't think there was a difference between regular barbasol and skin sensitive barbasol when it came to the feeling on the skin so thank you very much for that advice! I've considered making shaving cream slime, but I was never sure enough about the water to foam ratio to give it a go.
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Some good advice, and here are my 2 cents:
1) Volume - how many cans actually.
The brand of shaving foam really matters, particular when it comes to the nozzle. In the UK, Gillette costs £1 for a 200ml can, whereas Asda & Tesco have a 250ml own brand, for the same price or less.
If all shaving foams were the same, you'd need to use 25% more cans of Gillette to get the same result as Asda or Tesco. eg. 50 cans of Gillette 200ml would equal 40 cans of Asda/Tesco 250ml. But that's not the reality. Gillette have rubbish nozzles, whereas Asda and Tesco have what I guess you would call "volumiser" nozzles. This makes a big difference to the output. See what I mean in this photo. The one on the left is a Gillette 200ml, then next to that there is an Asda 250ml & then a Tesco 250ml. The Gillette is about half the volume, so if you went ahead thinking 50 cans of Gillette will do, you'd find yourself in your hotel room and the paddling pool at only half as full as you thought it would be. Yikes! Then you'd need to find another 50 cans of Gillette, very quickly.
2) Emptying the cans.
You could make a contraption to press the nozzles for you, but, if you heat the cans first in hot water, they will spray a lot faster. I don't think 40 cans is a problem myself, done manually. You've got 2 hands, so it's only 20 in each.
3) Time in pool/skin/keeping the foam good
Get in. Do what you do for maybe an hour. Finish. Get out. Cover the pool with a light weight plastic dust sheet. Go watch TV for an hour or until you want another round. This will give your skin some recovery time and extend how long the foam lasts, maybe for a whole weekend. It will diminish the more times you go in and as time itself goes by, so maybe get some more cans for topping up.
4) Adding other substances
If you add slime into the equation, the foam will mix with it and you'll end up with something else, neither foam nor slime. So think about that. You've got to be at the point where you are giving up the foam, before adding slime.
1) Volume - how many cans actually.
The brand of shaving foam really matters, particular when it comes to the nozzle. In the UK, Gillette costs £1 for a 200ml can, whereas Asda & Tesco have a 250ml own brand, for the same price or less.
If all shaving foams were the same, you'd need to use 25% more cans of Gillette to get the same result as Asda or Tesco. eg. 50 cans of Gillette 200ml would equal 40 cans of Asda/Tesco 250ml. But that's not the reality. Gillette have rubbish nozzles, whereas Asda and Tesco have what I guess you would call "volumiser" nozzles. This makes a big difference to the output. See what I mean in this photo. The one on the left is a Gillette 200ml, then next to that there is an Asda 250ml & then a Tesco 250ml. The Gillette is about half the volume, so if you went ahead thinking 50 cans of Gillette will do, you'd find yourself in your hotel room and the paddling pool at only half as full as you thought it would be. Yikes! Then you'd need to find another 50 cans of Gillette, very quickly.
2) Emptying the cans.
You could make a contraption to press the nozzles for you, but, if you heat the cans first in hot water, they will spray a lot faster. I don't think 40 cans is a problem myself, done manually. You've got 2 hands, so it's only 20 in each.
3) Time in pool/skin/keeping the foam good
Get in. Do what you do for maybe an hour. Finish. Get out. Cover the pool with a light weight plastic dust sheet. Go watch TV for an hour or until you want another round. This will give your skin some recovery time and extend how long the foam lasts, maybe for a whole weekend. It will diminish the more times you go in and as time itself goes by, so maybe get some more cans for topping up.
4) Adding other substances
If you add slime into the equation, the foam will mix with it and you'll end up with something else, neither foam nor slime. So think about that. You've got to be at the point where you are giving up the foam, before adding slime.
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