I'm not trying to fan the flames, but as a member of many fetish community, and and "old dog" - being in many fetish communities since 1996 and that I'm a fetish producer I do know one thing; the people who scream the loudest about how "niche" they want everything to be are the people who spend ZERO on content.

I also have come to get very snarky and have a great deal of fun with people in my community who comment on my videos "Wow...if only she'd been wearing a plaid skirt!" My comments back are usually to the tone of "If only you had $20 to buy one for my next custom, if not, then keep your comments to yourself."

I have no time for 17 year-olds or broke adult men trying to tell me what they want to see in my productions.

In breaking news:
POT CALLS KETTLE BLACK
Film at 11.

Boy, I wish I could be as scaldingly superior as you, Enigma. If you PRACTICED WHAT YOU PREACH, you'd tell me off in a PM offline and not make a Big Production About What A Shit You Think I Am. (Let's note that your rant against me is three times as long as the message I left above about Rich that you find such a crime against humanity. Thought you said we were here to talk about pie fights and not bitch and moan about other members?)

Also please note that the correct noun would be CONDESCENSION, not CONDENSATION. I wasn't talking about any drops of liquid spontaneously forming on fleshy surfaces; after all, the whole bodily fluids business is off limits in this forum!

I've since deleted the later post that you found so objectionable, Enigma. So some old dogs (like me) can learn new tricks after all ... maybe you can too?!?

Hurley's old "Wantlist" mentioned a lost Suzanne Somers pieing, or caking, on a TV special about a military ship.... and in that same special, Marie Osmond was supposed to get pied as well.
WAMTEC Mark eventually tracked down said special (1982? 1983?) to confirm there was nothing of the sort in it. Since then, I've been skeptical about any rumors of Suzanne getting messy. Believe me, I would LOVE to see 80's-era Suzanne get well pied or caked, but I'm gunshy since the first and best lead turned out to be false.

Does look like they all had a blast:

https://youtu.be/NFUWNE02QbY

Guys please stop hijacking this thread with this bullshit. I don't want to lock it. I think it's got a lot of good conversation left in it.

MM

Suzanne did get pied again mind not in the 80s. This and the outake vid seem to show see's up for a laugh (original scene is still one of me favourite pieings precisely cos it's a self pie and there's good coverage)

https://youtu.be/XGg2RChOeWY

The one I am thinking of was from her 90s infomercials. Eat great, lose weight, or something like that. I remember seeing it mentioned on famous pied faces list so its going back a little bit.

I guess what I really don't get is that pies, apparently were some kind of TV fad. Not saying we don't see them, but it was a thing in the 70's - happened on far too many TV shows and sitcoms to mention - hence WAMTEC's collection.

I'm not sure what happened. There have been "some" pies - Cheers for example, but even that could be called "back in the day."

Right now, it's seemingly out of style.

For pre-teen me, the Suzanne Somers hit was the greatest thing I had ever seen. Not too long after that, I discovered a pie fight scene in one of my dad's poorly hidden in the garage porn mags (it was a "Razzle-romp"-type thing) and my fate as a pie fetishist was sealed.

All these years later, I agree with many of the comments here - the DeWitt pie is a better hit and the Mrs Roper pie is a better reaction, but there is still something special for me about Suzanne.

Does the 3s Company DVD set have a cleaner copy of that post, shooting pie-fight? That certainly does look like 3 actors having a lot of fun.

No, very sadly, those post-show pie hijinx are definitely not included in the DVD. I first saw that footage -- in roughly the same crap quality as the youtube clip above -- on a Hurley Coward cliptape well before the DVDs were issued. Not sure what the source would've been. If those were taped off a TV broadcast -- say from one of those blooper shows -- the surviving copies must be many VHS generations down the line.

I do remember a Three's Company retrospective that aired while the show was still a going concern. It was actually hosted by Lucille Ball, and I remember it did show bits of the pie fight, but this outtake footage was definitely not aired as part of this show. I would DEFINITELY remember if it had been.

Pi-freek, sadly they dvd set does not have that behind the scenes post pie fight footage. All we have is the blurry footage found on you tube.

I'd love to see a Joyce interview where she discusses her take on the scene it alas I've yet to find anything. :/

Pies were considered a fad in the silent film era. By the time silent films were coming to an end, they were already considered a cliche. Laurel and Hardy's Battle of the Century, a 1927 silent film that came out the same year as the first movie with sound, featured the biggest ever pie fight (to date), but even that one was conceived as a sort of a meta pie fight -- that is, it was actually a mockery of what was by then considered an old hat comedy bit. The idea was that it was so extravagant that no one would ever want to stage one again.

For awhile following the L&H film, when pies were thrown in movies, they almost always tended to be done in evocations of the early silent film years, such as in the movies Show People and Hollywood Cavalcade. The Three Stooges were the main folk in the late 30s through early 50s who kept pie fights and messy slapstick alive and in the present tense, so to speak. But then TV came along, and pies made a big comeback.

I don't think pie fights was particularly a 70s TV fad, although that may well be when they peaked in terms of frequency, as they were pretty common on sitcoms and variety shows in that decade. But I think it's fairer to say that pies were popular on TV from the 50s through the 70s. Pre-70s shows to feature pie throwing include I Love Lucy, Milton Berle, Jack Benny, Ernie Kovacs, Steve Allen, Dick Van Dyke, Bewitched, Gilligan's Island, Petticoat Junction, Soupy Sales, My Three Sons, Route 66, That Girl, Dean Martin, and some Debbie Reynolds sitcom that aired briefly in the late 60s. And those are just the ones I know of-- I'm sure there are many more. (I'm not old enough to have actually seen pre70s TV when it originally aired; I've only seen a smattering of it in syndication, but I've done a lot of reading and googling on the topic of pie fights in TV and movies.)

Robert Stack should have featured this one on "Unsolved Mysteries" because this enigma is still remaining to be solved. All I know is that Hurley had a track record of being extremely meticulous and accurate with his research and reporting of pie scenes....so if Hurley said something....you could take it to the bank that it happened. The weird thing is...Hurley said it happened on "The Suzanne Somers Special" which aired in 1982 where she appeared with Marie Osmond in a USO show filmed outdoors on the deck of the USS Ranger that was docked in San Diego. I bought a dvd copy of this entire show 15 years ago, this is the one...

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0382326/?ref_=nm_flmg_slf_120

Here is an except from this show filmed on the deck of the USS Ranger...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BGnxax7YNQ

As you can see from the clip....it would have been impossible to film any kind of pie skit on the deck of a U.S. battleship because the winds were very high on deck and would have blown the pies off target. However, I recall watching the full show and there were several inserts to the show where Marie and Suzanne were filmed indoors....those were pre-taped inserts. I could not find any pie scene among those inserts....but perhaps that insert scene was cut from some airings of the show in order to make space for commercials. Hurley saw something when the show first aired. This is not uncommon for scenes to be aired and they later they get cut when a show is syndicated. A good example of that being the Barbara Eden dunk tank scene from the "Harper Valley PTA" tv series...i.e. when the show first aired Barbara was dunked 4 times but ever since TV Land aired the show it has been trimmed and you only see Eden get dunked twice. I was able to get the full uncut version from a collector in Canada which aired the uncut scene.

Also, there is another missing Marie Osmond scene that was definitely shot for an episode of the Donny and Marie show....where she was playing in the pool with a toy shark but that was cut before the show aired and all we have today are still photos of that scene from a French tv magazine.

Speaking of WAM scenes getting cut from re-airings, there was a 1983 made-for-TV movie called Happy Endings in which cute actress Catherine Hicks gets a decent pie in the face from John Schneider while sitting on a park bench. When they were advertising the movie for its first airing, the ads showed a very quick cut of the pieing, which is the only reason I watched it back in the day. My family didn't yet have a VCR (yes, we were a bit behind the times), so I couldn't tape it. But the movie was then shown a number of times in the years following on the CBS Late Movie. The ad they ran for the Late Movie showing also showed the pie hit, and by that point I had a VCR so I timer-recorded the movie. The next day I fast-forwarded through the film but was dismayed to find that the pie scene had been cut out! (They seemed to have cut out scenes they felt were unnecessary to the plot in order to squeeze in more commercials.) The funny thing was there was a followup scene that happened later the same afternoon, before Catherine's character had gotten home and changed. She still had some some traces of pie in her hair, which would've been puzzling to viewers who only saw the edited version of the film. (Or more likely, they probably didn't notice this little detail, not having a wammer's eagle eye for mess remnants!)

This pie clip is available on YouTube, but sadly, it's less than half of the full scene. (The full thing was made available on a cliptape by Hurley Coward, and probably also one by Wamtec Mark.) After the YouTube clip ends, Schneider pulls out a cigarette and places it between Catherine's pie covered lips and then fumbles with a lighter as she silently fumes beneath the pie. She eventually spits out "Don't.... touch ... me" and storms off, leaving Schneider sitting on the bench. After a long pause, she returns with a new pie in hand, coming up from behind Schneider in attempt to surprise him with a pie in his own face, but as he turns toward her, she manages to more or less miss his face and the scene very abruptly cuts away to the next scene, later that same day. This very clumsy edit made me wonder if the failed pie to Schneider's face was an accident but they just decided to move on rather than reshoot the scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2Lfv9dnHDY