So if you ask me in my vanilla life, I'd say I'm 100% straight but when it comes to wam, I find things are a bit murky.

About two years ago, I got messy with a bloke for the first time, proper wam style. Not in a messy games among friends, as in we're both wammers, lets get messy. We made plans for another session, and in that session we felt each other up in our clothes, and I even managed the courage to kiss him a few times due to my horniness and we gave each other an over the pants finish with a pie to our own face when we cummed.

We've been planning our third session, and we're talking about doing a bit more than kissing. I'll leave it up to your imagination. No, not that far. This is leading up to a question.

Do you consider yourself straight in the real world, but when it comes to the kink world, you're open to being bi? Is there even a term for it? I genuinely would like to know because I'm some what interested myself. Out side of this context, I'd consider myself straight, so am I the only one who swings both ways when it comes to wam or are there others?

Eh, my sexuality is already plenty confusing even without taking WAM into account.

First off, I'm so completely aromantic that I'm not even fully convinced folks who claim to have experienced romantic attraction aren't just playing an elaborate joke on me. If I give you a bouquet of flowers, there's no message there I'm trying to send beyond "hey I have observed in our previous interactions that you enjoy flowers and I happened to find these at 75% off when I went to the big Asda." I'll even leave the reduced sticker on. (Now, I know romantic attraction and sexual attraction are technically two different spectra but it does seem that they line up fairly well for most people, so I thought it worth mentioning anyway. It's a data point.)

Second, I am sexually aroused by, but not attracted to, women and transfeminine non-binary people (and sometimes very girlish twinks). That is, these are people whom I can look at and say "wow, they're hot," whom I might even purchase a picture set or video of and look at it while masturbating, but who I do not, personally, want to fuck. (As for men and transmasculine non-binary people... I don't mind if they're in a video but they're not going to be what I'm focusing on.) And that arousal is exponentially stronger if they're covered in gunge, but the attraction isn't - zero times anything is still zero.

Now, that can be a bit difficult to disentangle from depression and dysphoria. I'm not on estrogen yet. At the rate the NHS waiting lists are growing I might never be. Is it possible I might be more open to the idea of touching someone with my own body if I were more comfortable in it? Maybe! Getting on the proper hormones can do many things to your brain, including changing how you experience sexuality.

What all of this adds up to is that at no point in the last thirty or forty years have I ever asked anyone to fuck, and I can recall one and a half instances where anyone has asked me (one was two thousand miles away at the time, so that never went anywhere, and the "and a half" didn't actually know it was me, lol). That might just be down to the hedgehog vibes I radiate whenever anyone I don't already know and tolerate is in the same room as me, but I also tend not to put myself in places like bars or nightclubs where it is socially expected that you might be looking for a partner.

So, bringing it back around to the context of WAM and the thrust of your original question, if I were in such a situation? Say, if we had arranged a messy session, both fully in the knowledge that this is a fetish, and right there on the wetroom floor, us both clothed mostly in brightly coloured methylcellulose and way turned on by the sight of the other - If they propositioned me, would I refuse? If I agreed, would I see it all the way through or back out at the first fumble? I genuinely have no idea. I just don't have the historical data to back up a "yes" or a "no," and what people speculate they might do in a hypothetical situation is often not what they end up doing in a real situation. Even if I was so blinded by lust as to agree, I hope I'd at least remember to make sure they knew what they were getting into - after all, having to guide a complete virgin through her first awkward kiss is not likely to enhance their experience, unless that's their other fetish.

In conclusion: Maybe!

For me personally that answer would be no. There is nothing wrong being WAM-bi or piesexual and what not. In my case though guys do nothing for me. I can appreciate a fit body on a guy but it does nothing sexual for me. It's more an admiration of the work ethic and discipline to follow a strict diet. I have been asked several times about being pied by guys, would I give receive etc. so I have put some thought into it. The answer is I am genuinely not interested, it's just the way my brain is wired. On the flip side I am also not bothered if a dude wants to have a wank to something I post. I find it flattering to am extent but nothing beyond that. I hope you two have an amazing time and some fantastic messy nuts on your next meet up

I definitely relate to what you're saying... I sometimes refer to it as Pisexual, if it's messy I'm up for it with anyone!

short version of my personal sexuality, I've had one same sex experience and didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would and have pretty much considered myself straight since then. So I do wonder how far I would go with a guy for pie (couldn't resist the rhyme haha)

interesting side note: since I've started identifying as straight I've actually found it easier to watch male WAM. it's different to watching female WAM as I'm trying to place myself in the victim's shoes rather than just admiring what I see but still seems a bit ironic that I feel more comfortable watching male wam after becoming more certain I'm straight

I've never got messy with a guy but like watching to guys enjoying them selves messy but clean does nothing for me.

Yes I understand this. I'm definitely straight, but lately I've been watching more male wam and finding it super hot; as a poster above says it's more about imagining yourself in their shoes. I used to never even consider the idea of a session with another bloke, but actually I'm much more open to it than I realised.

I feel basically the same, I don't seek out male wam but when I stumble across something on here that looks fun I could see myself doing it.

You are looking for permission to suck cockusing WAM as a bridge. Be wary, you may be setting off on a path you will regret if you continue to tell yourself that you're "100% straight"
If the other guy is gay or bi you should examine why you continue to meet with him. Don't kid yourself you know what you are doing

With respect friend, it's kind of an ominous post.

Don't kid myself? What does that mean? I'm not asking permission to do anything, I am my own free man and I can do what I want.

I trust him when he says he's he is straight, and I have no reason to doubt him.

Like most of us I think; I am a straight male; but wam me naked in the right slippery muck, and turned on, and I will likely say yes to anything.

100% straight hetero here. Never any doubts at all. The only thing I do like is seeing a big muscle man with an attractive girl (probably because I wish I was said big muscle man!! )

As I understand it, the official definition of a fetish (rather than a kink) is that it's a pre-requisite for arousal. That sounds similar to what you're describing, i.e. you only kissed him when you were already horny due to all the mess. The question is whether that's the only time you felt the urge, or whether your horniness is what gave you the courage to act on that urge (similar to people who are less inhibited after a few drinks of alcohol).

Digressing slightly, I've spent some time lurking on AVEN (an asexual forum) and there's a recurring debate about definitions there: is it attraction-based or desire-based?

The "official" view is that it's an orientation, and someone is asexual if they don't feel sexually attracted to anyone else; this is independent of your sexual stance (i.e. whether you enjoy having sex). So, a cupiosexual feels desire without attraction ("any hole's a goal!") and they count as asexual. By contrast, an orchidsexual feels attraction without desire ("I think group X are hot but I don't want to stick my dick in them") and they don't fall on the asexual spectrum, although they're welcome within the asexual community.

The alternate definition (which I think makes a lot more sense) is that it's desire-based. If you want to have sex with people then you're allosexual. If you don't want to have sex with people then you're asexual. (An asexual might still choose to have sex with people, e.g. to make babies, but the question is whether they'd rather be watching TV.)

Coming back to the OP's question, if you go with the attraction-based definition then you could say that you're still heterosexual, even though you actively enjoy it when another guy strokes your dick. If you go with the desire-based definition then I'd say that you're both bisexual, but you then need to look at your position on the Kinsey scale (i.e. you can be "mostly straight but occasionally swing the other way").

the answer to your question is YES!
In my own sex life....which is pretty few and far between (im going through some hormonal changes and a lot of body issues so? I have a hard time lately being sexual--just regular sex...)

I have found that when I am covered in mess? I feel sexier, I feel more free sexually, im aroused easily and YES-I DO find the opposite sex more appealing to me.
Me and Mel have gotten together, no mess and had some fun together but? It wasnt near as fun as when we are messy. When I'm with girls and mess is abound? Or coming? I am insanely attracted to them. The curves of their body, watching the mess on their body, feeling their body and wanting them to feel good while getting messy.

In my normal sex life I dont participate with women. Believe me, back in the day? When I was in high school and college? Lots of threesomes and whatnot came about...but we were using lots of E-drinking and taking xanax, you name it, I did it. I was a wild child. I consider that a "party favor" time in my life.

Wam has opened a lot of doors for me sexually. So many different kinks I would have never tried and so many feelings with women I would have never felt if It wasnt for getting messy with them. My girls are beautiful and truly love mess so? That makes it about 1000 times easier.

I do love getting messy with men too. I dont get to do it enough but? Luckily? My roomate and I have plans to get really messy, both of us, and have sex and sex with him is already fantastic. So? Im aching to do it Im very excited. Plus? We will have Mel filming us which? Im very enthusiastic about. I love getting messy but I also? Love getting messy on camera. I love seeing all the things I may have missed or couldnt see and watching it later. I also love seeing how you all enjoy it. I think it is part of my kink.
So? After this long winded answer (as i normally do, haha) yes! I am more attracted to women in wam, still very attracted to men in wam too--but same sex wamming is very fun to me and i am glad you are getting to enjoy it!
I know with my girls? Ill tell them "this is what I would like to do, if you dont feel comfortable? We wont...just go with the flow..." and that is how we film. Almost every single time they either are totally into what I Have asked or? They go beyond their boundaries and have a blast doing it.
So? I know they are on the same page as me
so? I would suggest putting up your boundaries but if you feel like you wanna take it further? Just ask. All that will happen is they say yes or no. No big deal!
Im happy you found someone to have some fun with! Makes my heart happy!

Ok so I'm bi. I've been with men, women, trans people etc all outta wam. But wam did help me confirm that I was bi. The first time I got with a man I was kind of scared so I used wam as a Trojan horse in a sense. Got a guy to cover me in fluff and chocolate than I sucked him off. Fuckin loved it and now I know I'm bi.

I do think because pieing and sliming a person makes them a blob. We love that so much and it's so sensual and horny for us. Suddenly suckin a dick or eating a pussy becomes way easier and more appealing for a "straight" person.

Plus sexuality is so fluid and Americans especially live in a puritan ass society. Doing some gay or straight stuff once or twice really is normal.

No, I really gave it some thought too because I seem to attract only the attention of men at this point and almost never women, but I'm definitely straight.

Also, I really used to be able to enjoy getting messy on my own when I was young and it was new. There was a thrill or excitement, that's just...gone now I guess. I just need to see a woman getting sloppy, and preferably with me.

What an interesting question.

I've definitely "felt" something when watching people get messy for as long as I can remember, long before I understood it was arousal or a fetish. Even as a child I always preferred it to be women, but could also happily watch men. Once I realised it was sexual, I started exclusively looking at women. You wonder whether that is my sexuality maturing or how much of that is conditioning and wanting to prove to myself that I'm not "gay".

I don't really think many people are "100% straight", or "100% gay" for that matter. People definitely have sexual preferences but curiousity or desperation can take hold, hence why you hear about "straight" men having sex in prisons.

I've never tossed off while thinking of or looking at a man, but put it this way, if all clips and footage of women getting messy were suddenly destroyed, I think I would start watching male WAM before I turned to regular porn. That may be partly because, as I mentioned on another recent thread, I think I am on the asexuality spectrum and not that interested in sexual intercourse.

I've thought about this a lot. In day-to-day life, I'm only sexually attracted to women, but I can get aroused seeing anyone completely covered in heavy substances like mud, fake tar, chocolate, etc. Particularly if that person is aroused. It's sort of like vicarious arousal since I'm more of a visual wammer.