The thread below inspired me to pose this question:

https://umd.net/forums/source-of-picture-3

We've all got our sub-kinks - but don't they all *usually* turn out to be shared by a good number of others? (For example, the model getting messy whilst happening to wear a wristwatch! There turned out to be more than one fan of this.)

I was fascinated by the idea that some of you out there might have a unique variation - one that is so absolutely specific and conditional to satisfaction it's never been recreated for your entertainment.

I thought cake farts were a thing lol. Though farting in slime or custard or batter does seem a bit more niche hehe

As for me, probably mind-control/corruption and WAM seems mostly my bag.

I think somebody did - quite recently!

Its pretty epic that inside out sweatshirt guy lurked for 7 and a half years only to comment on the perfect thread for him.

Wedgies - hence I was the one who commissioned Pie Wedgies from the late Rob Blaine.

It sometimes feels like I'm the only person with a stockings fetish nowadays, increasingly rare sight...

I can assure you you are not the only one to have a stockings fetish.
I am lucky that my wife still wears stockings and suspenders frequently.

Perhaps it is more a UK thing than a US one. I don't know.

We all have our own ideas of course. Including those things that are a complete turn off.

Things that I find diverting in no particular order:

a) Messed up hair (of course)
b) Wet, (but not necessarily see through) dresses, preferably with full skirts of no matter what length.
c) Sticky materials, Treacle, golden syrup etc., but I am with Candy Custard in NOT using Honey for environmental reasons.
d) Flour, eggs etc.
e) Braless and escaping boobs. (Isla please note).
f) Two girl/couple activitiy.
g) clothes ripping

Things that I am ambivalent about:

a) Male Wam.
b) Total immersion.
c) Full on sex activity
d) Wearing of jewellery
e) dunk tanks

Things that I find boring/turn off

a) Pies to the face (unless they are also swiped over the head)
b) Cake sitting.
c) Panty filling.
d) Gunging from overhead tanks

There you are, not necessarily a comprehensive list, but a start. No doubt others would have that list reversed, so it just goes to show what a difficult job producers have in predicting what the customer wants. Good luck with that!

T.

Hi Newt. My training is in engineering, where it pays to be precise.

I got one!

Women wearing neckties. For me WAM is all about the distance between how someone looks before they get messy, and how they look afterwards. One way to emphasise that difference is by the victim being really smartly dressed. The more inappropriate the outfit is for getting messy, the funnier it is when it's owner gets their just desserts. So formal dress or business wear> t shirt and shorts. However, there's really no better way for a woman to signal that she wasn't even slightly expecting to get a pie in the face or an appointment with the gunge thank than being all smartly dressed up in a shirt and tie.

There are LOADS of wam videos that supposedly feature "school uniforms" that include a tie, but it's pointless when the tie is poorly tied, or loose. There are a tiny, precious handful of wam videos where the model is wearing the tie correctly, and boy do I wish there were more.

Topcattopone
"Braless and escaping boobs"
Duly noted

Totally agree on the messy hair. Never see enough of that. Must do something about it!

Turn offs. Tights, flat shoes, big pants, baggy, shapeless clothes, industrial type clothes, like boiler suits, wellies etc. Not keen on sportswear, trainers, watery slime and gunge

Definitely not alone, I HATE tights, they are the most unsexy thing ever invented

I wish I could find more MF sex in mud scenes. I've only been able to find a handful. That's probably my ultimate fantasy.

But they do rip beautifully Never got the suspender belt thing, now of course an unnecessary contrivance now that we have Hold Ups

Pretty sure half of all volumes we released in the last six months had at least one stockings/hose scene.

This is probably fairly unique: I don't care for fully-naked WAM at all. I prefer something left to the imagination. There are definitely others but that one leapt to mind

Non-nude.

What about body parts?

Some guys pied butts, or pied feet or maybe boobs, or messes elsewhere on the woman's body. I've always been drawn to a woman's tummy, and my wam fantasies have gone there too, such as the very rare time when a girl gets a pie to the tummy.

But there are more, as recently someone posted about wam being poured down a girl's back.

On behalf of the world...thank you for this. One of my all time fave scenes

Thank Rob Blaine who batted it out of the park, but he did use the models I was using for my wedgie shoots through TNVideo.

I'm actually planning on doing my own pie/wedgies shoot but it's gonna be outdoors so I have to wait for it to warm up.

Totally agree - clothed wam is the business and by the way i looove messy tights

I would love to see a drag queen get very messy. I know there are CDs here and they are great but I wanna see drag queen messy and if I don't see it soon I will have to make it myself!

Thursday Night Video? I bought several of their scenes too. Perhaps ones you commissioned

Topcattopone, I like you format so much I have to steal it sorry lol. I don't really have any kinks that are really "out there" or truly unique



My likes:

- Underwear, nothing turns me on more than seeing someone in their undies wam or non wam
- Savory, sweet, various oils, clear slime
- Substances that are not common like mac and cheese (Thank you Kaydens!)
- Clothes that eventually turn to nudity, ripping and tear is always a plus
- Swimwear or underwear filling especially if it's excessive amounts
- last but not least: models that are clearly enjoying themselves and not just going through the motions with a blank expression on their faces
- sock filling, don't know why but that really pushes my buttons

Neutral

- Male in a male/female scene
- Age (obviously at least 18)
- Sexual actions or lack of
- Role playing

Turnoffs or boring

- 100% clothed wam with no stripping at all, sorry but my buttons are not pushed at all with those scenes
- Uniforms especially if they are genuine. I have a great deal of respect and affection for many professions so I can't stand the sight of their uniforms intentionally soiled or ruined
- 100% male scenes
- Scenes where the models are genuinely not enjoying themselves

I don't think there are any really specialised things that I absolutely *must* have in order to enjoy a scene or session. But there are some of them that I do really enjoy seeing when they come along, like guys getting messy in latex animal suits!

Same - naked WAM does nothing for me - any girl getting hit with more than 3 pies does nothing in regards to the fact that the 4th hit does nothing more for me than the 3rd and once we get into the 5th, 8, 12th hit, I'm bored.

I have no idea why pie producers use "20 pies." I'd rather take that same session time and just do a lot different scenarios.

I like to see different parts of a woman's body pied and messed up. Armpits, for instance. After doing this once on Ginger D I had a message from a fan who said they particularly loved this. I've tried to squeeze some under arm action into almost every scene since.

On the subject of pied boobs. This is very much a must - especially in a topless scene. So many missed opportunities in other people's pie videos where the model is topless with a big, thick cream pie in each hand and they then shove them into...their own face

Maybe not unique but there's not much material with WAM fillled balloons popped inside clothing!

At least half of the session time is spent on the model showering, cleaning up, and redoing hair & makeup. And that's also the most draining part (according to all the models I work with).

So if you shoot 3 scenes involving 20 pies, each running about half an hour, that'll take 3 1/2 hours. (40 min per scene for model to cleanup & get ready.) If you shoot 3 scenes involving 3 pies, each running 5 min, you're only saving an hour or so. But you can sell all 3 of those 20-pie scenes individually.... whereas you'll probably need to combine the 3 "short" scenes into one bigger clip to get any sales.

Doing what you describe CAN be done... but it takes a lot more time (and usually money) to get enough content to sell. PiesNextDoor did scenes just like you described... and he stopped because he was losing money.
I've done it on a handful of occasions, but usually just with models I know really well who can get cleaned up in a hurry. Toshia did this for the SS100 scene.... I *think* there were four different outfits where she got pied, and for the first 3 she just washed up briefly rather than redoing hair & makeup. It still wound up taking over 2 hours just to shoot that one clip tho (as opposed to 30-45 min for a regular one), so it's not the kind of thing I can do with today's models who want to be paid hourly and freak out if they take more than 3 showers in one session.