I think a good reason to go into producing would be to create content no one else is doing. Or at least make content the way they want to see it done. So I wonder......
Who was the first producer to:
- do a pudding submerging shoot -do a head dunking - do a face to ass pie sandwich -do a mess/blowjob sex shoot - shoot in HD -shoot a certain celebrated model -use green screen
I honestly think MG might be able to claim a few of these. They have been around a long time and are always coming up with something different.
Not to brag, BUT.... Pretty sure my dog has appeared in more videos than any other dog. She has a bad habit of standing by the door and licking the pie debris off the plastic.... and the buckets... and the legs of the model......
I'm sure this is meant to be a lovely, relish in praise post from Bozo1, who by the way I think adds a lot to our community
Unfortunately though the first things to come to my mind, are times when toes have been stepped on, and feelings been hurt, purely by producers not being aware of other producers work. So I can't imagine many are gonna want to touch this post with a barge pole, for fear of causing upset.
EDIT: On second thought, pretty sure my dog has appeared in more videos than any other dog. She has a bad habit of standing by the door and licking the pie debris off the plastic.... and the buckets... and the legs of the model......
Haha... case in point.. I'd argue our Beagles have appeared in more scenes
Most of the producers I know got their inspirations from watching old movies and tv shows and then embellishing those scenes in their own way.
Interestingly there are still many scenes in old movies that have never been repeated by any wam producer....e.g. the classic "Sword of Damocles" pie on the ceiling scene from "Half Wits Holiday"....it must be great to create an original concept that nobody tries to emulate,
And then there was the pie scene using a hot air balloon in a 70's comedy that nobody has ever repeated.
I can't think of anything unique that we have done purposely...but we have had a few accidental wam scenes that have never been done by anyone else....Lenny and I did the one and only "fire ant pie tortune" scene by accident....where the pies boxes were left stacked in a pile in my garage and the ants got into them overnight and the next day some pies were thrown that had live ants in the pies.....the girls were not amused.
wamtec said: Interestingly there are still many scenes in old movies that have never been repeated by any wam producer....e.g. the classic "Sword of Damocles" pie on the ceiling scene from "Half Wits Holiday"....it must be great to create an original concept that nobody tries to emulate,
Done it many, many times actually. This is the most recent one.
I don't see it -- perhaps it is the way you edited it but that looks like an overhead pie drop from an off camera human hand, because I do not see where the pie was stuck on the ceiling. You did not show the ceiling in your gif.
It would be tricky to shoot because you would need 2 cameras, one on the ceiling and on the girl, because you would never know when the pie was about to fall.
With an overhead pie drop that is relatively easy to stage because you have somebody off camera holding the pie and can cue them when to drop the pie. The 3 Stooges scene is far more difficult to stage because you could not predict when the pie will drop. But you can edit the 2 camera shots skillfully together as The 3 Stooges did.
Perhaps you can start a gofundme page to raise the big bucks needed to replicate the hot air balloon pie drop scene.
wamtec said: I don't see it -- perhaps it is the way you edited it but that looks like an overhead pie drop from an off camera human hand, because I do not see where the pie was stuck on the ceiling. You did not show the ceiling in your gif.
I don't, you're right.... In this day and age, where more than half the folks buy the unedited (not edited) versions, I don't spend as much time shooting these extra bits and stuff to edit them in. I assume people want the "money shot" (the pie hitting the girl's face) and not the buildup shot (the pie stuck to the ceiling). I suspect the Stooges dropped the pie from someone offscreen, and that the stuck pie was a separate shot done to set up continuity.
I did some scenes around 2010-11 (one was a Naked Gun parody) where there would be cuts to an oil can... or a bucket labeled "CEMENT".... sitting on a shelf and then tipping over.... and then a smash cut to "oil" or "cement" falling on the model. So same principle. I don't have video excerpts or GIFs, sorry! But you can buy some scenes here: http://slapstickstuff.com/SS107.htm http://slapstickstuff.com/NG.htm
Bozo1 said: I think a good reason to go into producing would be to create content no one else is doing. Or at least make content the way they want to see it done. So I wonder......
Who was the first producer to:
- do a pudding submerging shoot -do a head dunking - do a face to ass pie sandwich -do a mess/blowjob sex shoot - shoot in HD -shoot a certain celebrated model -use green screen
I honestly think MG might be able to claim a few of these. They have been around a long time and are always coming up with something different.
If you a producer, this is your chance to brag!!!
How about the first dwarf Wam model? I don't think that's happened yet.
LisaMoomin said: I'm sure this is meant to be a lovely, relish in praise post from Bozo1, who by the way I think adds a lot to our community
Unfortunately though the first things to come to my mind, are times when toes have been stepped on, and feelings been hurt, purely by producers not being aware of other producers work. So I can't imagine many are gonna want to touch this post with a barge pole, for fear of causing upset.
Happy Sunday guys xx
First of all, thanks for the compliment, Lisa!
Secondly, I think anyone can say "I was first!" as long as they preface it with a "correct me if I am wrong, but...."
So far this thread is going well.
Let me ask you all this............ Have we had a Native American model yet? If so, who was first?
wamtec said: Most of the producers I know got their inspirations from watching old movies and tv shows and then embellishing those scenes in their own way.
I did a reinterpretation of Hitchcock's "Psycho" years ago. I used my most popular model and did a shot-by-shot copy of the original shower scene, but it sold almost nothing. Apparently nobody here likes to jerk off to a brutal, bloody murder scene, which I suppose is a net positive for the community
soundguy said: I did a reinterpretation of Hitchcock's "Psycho" years ago. I used my most popular model and did a shot-by-shot copy of the original shower scene, but it sold almost nothing. Apparently nobody here likes to jerk off to a brutal, bloody murder scene, which I suppose is a net positive for the community
But actually, Hitchcock never shot a "bloody murder scene",,,,because he did not use chicken blood nor any other red substances for that scene. The film was shot in black and white and Hitchcock did not feel that a red color substance looked effective because on black and white film a more dramatic erffect can be achieved by substituting HERSHEY'S CHOCOLATE SYRUP instead, so Hitchcock actually gave Janet Leigh a chocolate bath.
One of the useless bits of information I learned when taking the Universal Studios tour in 1979. The other useless info I learned on that tour is that they never used ice cream to make Sundaes on "Happy Days"...because ice cream melts under the hot studio lights, so they always used mashed potato to sub for ice cream. I remember our tour guide saying "who wants to eat mash potato covered in chocolate sauce.....a unanimous NO from everybody on the bus...and then he rephrased the question "and who will eat mash potato covered in chocolate sauce if you are under contract and being paid $10,000 per week....a lot of people changed their minds.
Anyway, Hitchcock was probably the first person to film a chocolate shower bath scene...
soundguy said: I did a reinterpretation of Hitchcock's "Psycho" years ago. I used my most popular model and did a shot-by-shot copy of the original shower scene, but it sold almost nothing. Apparently nobody here likes to jerk off to a brutal, bloody murder scene, which I suppose is a net positive for the community
And yet, still better than the Gus Van Zant remake starring Vince Vaughan.
I think I may have the first HD video if it wasn't a Kowalski video - As in shot in HD and then downloadable as HD as a full video.
I know I jumped forward when everyone was telling me the videos were too long and people wouldn't download them in one lump, but I hated doing clips and internet speeds where just starting to get fast enough in enough places. Don't know if I can claim first to release full videos though, possibly full HD.
I also pushed into MP4 when so many people where dead set on WMV and didn't see it as the universal codec it would become. Not a record in itself, but I would like that on the record.
I had the first WAM podcast, even if it died after 3 episodes. I'm sure I was the first to have a mobile phone gunged as part of a scene. I could be the first producer to have a gunge site in the UK and a pie site in the US, if I'm not the first transatlantic producer. Also pretty sure I was the first WAM producer to use ring lighting to shoot digital photos. I'm hazy on Leon's timing, but I may have beaten him to shooting a gunge tank, although mine was awful. If so, I suspect he can claim first proper gunge tank.
I may have the record for models that went onto be reality TV celebrities... 3. I may have the record for Page 3 girls gunged, although there is someone that may have overtaken that.
With the Kowalskis and MissT, we were the first to cross bondage and WAM in a dedicated manner. I reckon they and MissT have some records.
Slightly away from the 'producer' label but I did make a fair attempt at trying to make the first free WAM video download site in WamMonkey starting in 1998. I was a student at the time and the bandwidth costs back then were killing me. I remember trying to keep videos below 5Mb in size so that people on dial up could actually download them within a reasonable time.
wamtec said: Record for the most amount of pies wasted on a movie set goes to Blake Edwards, where 4000 pies were used and only 0.1% of them hit Natalie Wood.
One of the side effects of casting one woman and 25 men for your pie-fight sequence. I always assume the folks who call this the "greatest WAM scene ever" are conveniently forgetting the many many (MANY) male pie hits.
That said, Natalie definitely got hit with more than 4 pies just in the final edit (even if not all of them were great hits) and probably a ton more that wound up on the cutting room floor. In fact, considering there's MAAAAYBE 100 actual pie hits in the film itself, the buying of 4000 pies is probably the biggest single waste in the history of WAM. (Unless there's some truly amazing outtakes in a vault somewhere........)
MMasia said: Slightly away from the 'producer' label but I did make a fair attempt at trying to make the first free WAM video download site in WamMonkey starting in 1998. I was a student at the time and the bandwidth costs back then were killing me. I remember trying to keep videos below 5Mb in size so that people on dial up could actually download them within a reasonable time.
Ah, I remember WAMMonkey! Yeah, that site was fantastic. And you're right, between bandwidth and slow internet it was probably unsustainable. But you were definitely ahead of your time.
MMasia said: Slightly away from the 'producer' label but I did make a fair attempt at trying to make the first free WAM video download site in WamMonkey starting in 1998. I was a student at the time and the bandwidth costs back then were killing me. I remember trying to keep videos below 5Mb in size so that people on dial up could actually download them within a reasonable time.
So you're Wammonkey???
You just abandoned ship with people wondering WTF had happened.
I thought I was the first one to do a pie scene with a guy in a gorilla costume when we did our "Beauty and the Beast" pie scene with JC in 1996......but I was wrong......
wamtec said: I thought I was the first one to do a pie scene with a guy in a gorilla costume when we did our "Beauty and the Beast" pie scene with JC in 1996......but I was wrong......
Pretty sure I was the first (and so far only) producer to pie models wearing a horse head. *
* Splitting hairs, but the unpaid Chega Mais intern who ALSO pied models wearing a horse head is not technically a producer.