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"What percentage of models agree?"
Love you, too
I wouldn't say American is more business focussed than European. America has a wider range of markets for models to work in, and large adult and porn one on the west coast. If you're in a red state and outside of the main city, you're probably not going to find a lot of models that want to do topless shoots. In LA, you'll get the full range from catwalk to any kind of porn you want to shoot. In New York, you'll get a decent range as well as the more artsy side of models shooting for photographers and a wealth of fashion models.
In Europe, there's a strong countrywide network of models happy to do glamour and adult and more inclined to enjoy doing something silly and sexy as a break from endlessly posing with their top off for wannabe glamour photographers.
There's no black or white difference though anywhere. It depends where you are and what networks are available to plug into relative to what you want to shoot. I've experienced both sides of the Atlantic and, doing what I do, had no real problems where I've been both times. But then, I'm in California so...
In Europe, there's a strong countrywide network of models happy to do glamour and adult and more inclined to enjoy doing something silly and sexy as a break from endlessly posing with their top off for wannabe glamour photographers.
There's no black or white difference though anywhere. It depends where you are and what networks are available to plug into relative to what you want to shoot. I've experienced both sides of the Atlantic and, doing what I do, had no real problems where I've been both times. But then, I'm in California so...
noise said:
I think you might need to move to LA and out of the red zone... we could team up and own the world from here.
SStuff said: WAM, gunge, etc. has always been more acceptable in the UK. The difference is probably more pronounced now. Current millennials here in America have grown up in a world with little to no "fun" mainstream messy content.... whereas the predatory nature of some WAMmers here (on social media and elsewhere) is literally their only exposure.
I think you might need to move to LA and out of the red zone... we could team up and own the world from here.
|You may not know as much about the "red zone" as you think. You can't possibly get any "redder" than where I am outside possibly downtown Salt Lake City. An increasing proportion of the talent at MPV comes from two hours away or less.
Dirty Job but I got to do it 20+ years. Thanks.
Girls don't say no, they just fucking ghost you.
Once Lisa has had the,
"First Rule About Pie Club, is, You Don't Talk About Pie Club"
chat with new girls, they are in.
Trouble is getting girls to that stage is tricky, I used to post long adverts explaining exactly what the job is, fetish and everything. We would get loads of girls reply, loads.
Problem is, I think, hardly any of them took the time to read the whole advert, they saw, MONEY, MODELLING and that seems to be all they read. So then they tell their friends or boyfriends that they were going to be a model, they then get teased for what the job is.
Then rather than coming back to us for Lisa to have the chat mentioned above, they ghost us, just stop replying to messages. I fucking hate ghosting, so rude. Just say you don't want to do it anymore, FFS.
We do now have quite a good success rate recruiting girls, but we have developed a system that gets girls to the Lisa chat a lot more quickly. Not to mention, a fair few of our girls have friends who want to do it.
Once Lisa has had the,
"First Rule About Pie Club, is, You Don't Talk About Pie Club"
chat with new girls, they are in.
Trouble is getting girls to that stage is tricky, I used to post long adverts explaining exactly what the job is, fetish and everything. We would get loads of girls reply, loads.
Problem is, I think, hardly any of them took the time to read the whole advert, they saw, MONEY, MODELLING and that seems to be all they read. So then they tell their friends or boyfriends that they were going to be a model, they then get teased for what the job is.
Then rather than coming back to us for Lisa to have the chat mentioned above, they ghost us, just stop replying to messages. I fucking hate ghosting, so rude. Just say you don't want to do it anymore, FFS.
We do now have quite a good success rate recruiting girls, but we have developed a system that gets girls to the Lisa chat a lot more quickly. Not to mention, a fair few of our girls have friends who want to do it.
DuncanEdwards said:
|You may not know as much about the "red zone" as you think. You can't possibly get any "redder" than where I am outside possibly downtown Salt Lake City. An increasing proportion of the talent at MPV comes from two hours away or less.
noise said:
I think you might need to move to LA and out of the red zone... we could team up and own the world from here.
SStuff said: WAM, gunge, etc. has always been more acceptable in the UK. The difference is probably more pronounced now. Current millennials here in America have grown up in a world with little to no "fun" mainstream messy content.... whereas the predatory nature of some WAMmers here (on social media and elsewhere) is literally their only exposure.
I think you might need to move to LA and out of the red zone... we could team up and own the world from here.
|You may not know as much about the "red zone" as you think. You can't possibly get any "redder" than where I am outside possibly downtown Salt Lake City. An increasing proportion of the talent at MPV comes from two hours away or less.
i gotta start looking in nashville. im only an hour away from there! or just go down there and wear a tshirt that says "will wam for food money......for the month" lol XD nashville rocks but sadly we still have the bible belt to compete with. i live less than an hour from there and its like i live on a different planet.
we make girls and guys sign a non disclosure agreement. we dont say you work for me, you dont say you work for me. no snap chatting on set, no pics of us on fb, twitter, whatever unless you are promoting me, as jayce lane and your twitter is set for your modeling. not with a bunch of our neighborhood friends.
usually, just to make it easier, i just forbid it entirely. word spreads so fucking fast and BOOm you lose people bc they get about the 10th story and by that time its "hey there is this girl that lives on this street and she hires guys to shower in clothes and then fucks them after" yuuuuuup. drenchmedudes JUUUUUST started and i got THAT ONE. pffft. these dudes DO NOT WANNA FUCK ME. nor i them. i just think they are adorable! aint nothing wrong with that! alas, people are morons. most the time. most peopel i find that ARENT are around here.
i think ill pitch a tent and just chill........
Get Messy, Get Wet, C'mon Get Happy!
leonmoomin said: Girls don't say no, they just fucking ghost you.
Once Lisa has had the,
"First Rule About Pie Club, is, You Don't Talk About Pie Club"
chat with new girls, they are in.
That sounds familiar.
Once Lisa has had the,
"First Rule About Pie Club, is, You Don't Talk About Pie Club"
chat with new girls, they are in.
That sounds familiar.
