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"Does anyone like ebony WAM?"
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BozoT.Clown said: Jayce, I've always found you to be very beautiful, & very cute. That's why - even though you do have bangs - I still love buying your excellent videos. However...how about some feathered bangs as a compromise? Marie Osmond has lightly feathered bangs, & I think she's very cute. It's not that I think you're unattractive with heavy bangs. I just think you'd be even more attractive without them. Like Ariel does sometime. Show me a good looking woman with short hair (& there are some), & I'll show you a better looking woman with long hair. Just sayin'; at least as far I'm concerned. And I feel the same about bangs. I know it's a strange predelliction of mine, but I own it. 
So I say, go with how you feel best Jayce. I understand. Oh yeah...did I mention I have bangs? 
Probably should have lead with that, huh? 
Ok...I'm thru. It's all out of my system.
~Switch Reels~
As a black man under the make-up, I feel Ebony Model sounds a little bit off to me. Ebony works for a magazine name about black people (clever), but as a way of identifying a black, or a female African American Model, seem kinda wrong. No big deal, but what do ya think? You would almost never refer to a white model as an Ivory Model, right? In fact - as far as I know - no one ever puts any race labels on white models at all. Only Black, Latina, Indian, & Asian models. So why call out black models at all? The pix alone make it obvious. I dream of a day when we don't need such labels in the WAM Community. And Mr. "I don't like Ebony Models". Try it Mr_Pies, you'll like it.
Although I agree with ya on one point. I like Breana too. Wowzers!
Ebony & Ivory...live together in perfect harmony.
So I say, go with how you feel best Jayce. I understand. Oh yeah...did I mention I have bangs? Probably should have lead with that, huh? Ok...I'm thru. It's all out of my system. ~Switch Reels~
As a black man under the make-up, I feel Ebony Model sounds a little bit off to me. Ebony works for a magazine name about black people (clever), but as a way of identifying a black, or a female African American Model, seem kinda wrong. No big deal, but what do ya think? You would almost never refer to a white model as an Ivory Model, right? In fact - as far as I know - no one ever puts any race labels on white models at all. Only Black, Latina, Indian, & Asian models. So why call out black models at all? The pix alone make it obvious. I dream of a day when we don't need such labels in the WAM Community. And Mr. "I don't like Ebony Models". Try it Mr_Pies, you'll like it.
Although I agree with ya on one point. I like Breana too. Wowzers! Ebony & Ivory...live together in perfect harmony.
well, i thank you for purchasing my vids. i know that you do and now im thinking....maybe my next vid ill wear them back.....i know i HAVE to in one of them bc im blowing big fucking bubbles!! so, that one i will be wearing them back. i was born with a high forehead and like 4 blonde eyebrows on each side....lol. so, i have been self conscious and my mom had me in bangs as a kid. and growing up i always wore them.well, thanks to modern rocket science of the face, i have eyebrows, which is helpful.....lol. even though i COULD NOT AFFORD THAT SHIT. you cant put a price on feeling more comfortable in your own skin. i took that out of my "saving for a car" fund.....it makes my forehead not so "prominent" but, i hear that people with larger foreheads are more intelligent!! look at einstein!! whos name i spelled wrong with incorrect punctuation!! yep!! im right up there with all them intelligent peoples!! hahahahah!!! but, the way i wear them off my face now is much more appealing than it used to be so, there will be that soon
also to switch gears. From what i have encountered with talking to girls that want to model for me (which i am insanely picky....bc if you are gonna make my life harder and not be worth it to me, then go on somewhere...i got reallly lucky with who i have. they love it) a lot of the black girls were like "yep but i will NOT get stuff in my hair" which was a NO GO. bc their hair breaks off so damn easy. also, i have a lot of customers who can spot fake hair or wigs a mile away. and they wont buy it. so, its hard for me to sell customs to people using a girl that is using a wig. a weave, which naomi is wearing in some of her clean pics, is just as bad as using real hair. it can still torture the real hair. if you buy a wig, it can keep the oils and mess off the real hair....but like i said....unless you pay OUT THE ASS....you can spot a wig a mile away and its less appealing. that has been my issue in hiring ebony models. naomi is what she calls "mixed" and she has very forgiveable hair.
she was like "girl just lay it on me!" after i told her no more weaves. only the real hair. shes a trooper. she hasnt been properly messed yet. she has had a little....she hasnt had the real "HOM" TREATMENT. i think i will steer clear of the mystery substance in her hair! it fucking yanks mine out!! so, ill give her a pass on that!!! but that has been my issue. the hair!!!More BTS, clips, messes, wetlook+fetish on my OF!
SStuff said: I sure as hell hope so! The positive response on this thread is encouraging.... and I've got a humdinger of an African-American model coming, so we shall see.
Also, props to SlipperySkin for calling out those want to actively link to a known piracy site that is actively DESTROYING the produced WAM community. Wanna see more producers just give up and throw in the towel?? Keep supporting that site.
And props to Clownpies as well for calling out sexual assault, even if everyone else on this thread kinda shrugged and moved on. Seems like that should be a deal-breaker when deciding where your money should go.
Also, props to SlipperySkin for calling out those want to actively link to a known piracy site that is actively DESTROYING the produced WAM community. Wanna see more producers just give up and throw in the towel?? Keep supporting that site.
And props to Clownpies as well for calling out sexual assault, even if everyone else on this thread kinda shrugged and moved on. Seems like that should be a deal-breaker when deciding where your money should go.
You've had some african american beauties. My favorite is the one that came with her mom. Holy shit, you can't write comedy like that.
Oh Janet! You look so funny!!!
I do and I wish there were more ladies willing to get messy. From Anglefan's models, I liked all of the black models, more so Gena, Latreice, Tamara and Bella D. I also liked when StopGo comissioned his customs, he always had at least 1 very attractive african american lady to get messy, even famous black pornstars Jada Fire, Sinnamon Love, Adina Jewel, and Havana Ginger. As I am an african american myself, I tried to get messy with one of my two female friends who I have in the real world, but she respectfully declined, but another of my female friends who is black did get messy with me a few years ago and did have a fun time doing it.
formerly cfoster_316
Loved the outdoor mud scene from Rob Blaine's cyberspace video where the lady played in outdoor clay pit. Judging by her smile so did the lady.
HappyCamper said:
You've had some african american beauties. My favorite is the one that came with her mom. Holy shit, you can't write comedy like that.
You've had some african american beauties. My favorite is the one that came with her mom. Holy shit, you can't write comedy like that.
Nope! And in editing, I just threw out the scripted stuff and leaned into the crazy mom. Comedy gold!
This new girl is far and away the most attractive AA model I've shot. And you get to see a LOT more of her too. (wink wink nudge nudge) Might rush-release it now that this topic is coming up again.... as it does on a semi-annual basis.....
PiedGirlsLover said:
Gena is among my favorite "one and dones" period. In terms of black women, she's in the top 3 for me. Incredible reactions, gorgeous face and body, and such a cool personality. We have been in contact over the years but we've never managed to work out a sequel shoot. She immersed herself in her career and it never happened, despite her willingness to film. You will see more releases of Tekila, and Janiece was another favorite. Janiece was a bit hesitant at first but she got so into the video shoot and very much enjoyed pieing herself. One of the better self-piers ever.
My favorite black model of yours is Gena. What ever happened to her? Any possibility of a return? She had such a pretty face and it got pied with coverage as good as any black woman ever IF not the best. I gotta be honest I usually don't even like hair as short as her's on women as I prefer long hair but she had the perfect face for that Halle Berry like short hairstyle. Loved the wet hair look and her nice skin complexion. If she looked that good with short hair I try to picture how hot she would look with long hair, particularly the long braided hairstyle.
Tekila whom you mentioned was also a great black woman you had. Hope to see more releases of her. Janeice was also another one of my personal favorites.
Tekila whom you mentioned was also a great black woman you had. Hope to see more releases of her. Janeice was also another one of my personal favorites.
Gena is among my favorite "one and dones" period. In terms of black women, she's in the top 3 for me. Incredible reactions, gorgeous face and body, and such a cool personality. We have been in contact over the years but we've never managed to work out a sequel shoot. She immersed herself in her career and it never happened, despite her willingness to film. You will see more releases of Tekila, and Janiece was another favorite. Janiece was a bit hesitant at first but she got so into the video shoot and very much enjoyed pieing herself. One of the better self-piers ever.
6/12/25, 11:32pm: No-bump reply
SStuff said:
Also, props to SlipperySkin for calling out those want to actively link to a known piracy site that is actively DESTROYING the produced WAM community. Wanna see more producers just give up and throw in the towel?? Keep supporting that site.
And props to Clownpies as well for calling out sexual assault, even if everyone else on this thread kinda shrugged and moved on. Seems like that should be a deal-breaker when deciding where your money should go.
Also, props to SlipperySkin for calling out those want to actively link to a known piracy site that is actively DESTROYING the produced WAM community. Wanna see more producers just give up and throw in the towel?? Keep supporting that site.
And props to Clownpies as well for calling out sexual assault, even if everyone else on this thread kinda shrugged and moved on. Seems like that should be a deal-breaker when deciding where your money should go.
@SStuff - I never saw this reply first time around (only seeing it now since being quoted by someone else), I believe Messmaster blitzed the offending portion of this thread.
But I couldn't agree more! Not only actively link, but then revel in the piracy of one of the scenes founding producers. Kinda astounded how many discrepancies have been brought up in a single thread, and still people seem comfortable to skim over it.
I've always regarded you as one of the solid pillars in the community though SStuff, so may you prevail!
Messtival Co-Founder
The hubplace has been a thorn in my side for a long time
SplatInDaVat said: Does Ebony WAM count for art? I have recently had this picture done on Deviantart with my own Ebony female character Regina. 
Looks really good!
Looks really good!
Thank you.
Color is an interesting concept for us. Most models wind up chocolate coated, green slimed, oatmealed, grey clayed, or in some manner, made into a different color than their natural one. Hair and skin both no longer have any color of their own, so to me, a model should be selected for her abilities, beauty, acting, etc. Anything but color, because that will likely change by the end of the shoot!
Oh, and why were on this topic I have not seen a ebony models pieing a white guys. I would love to see it
There is plenty of footage of what you're looking for that exists in my catalog.
Absolutely! My model preferences have gone all over the place in the past 10 years.
6/12/25, 11:32pm: No-bump reply
Well, I can confirm with actual numbers that people DO like at least ONE African-American model!!
I suspect there are two BIG reasons she sold so much better (ahem) but whatever... Thanks for supporting Candi! And yes, her next release will feature her pieing the heck out of a white guy! (Portraying someone a LOT of you would like to see get pied in real life....)
I suspect there are two BIG reasons she sold so much better (ahem) but whatever... Thanks for supporting Candi! And yes, her next release will feature her pieing the heck out of a white guy! (Portraying someone a LOT of you would like to see get pied in real life....)
i talked to naomi about this thread bc we did some bigger messes here recently.
She is mixed race. momma is white and daddy is black. so, her hair, it LOOKS like my hair....except at the roots. I told her about the lack of girls of her race (because she defines herself as black or caramel in one of my vids! hahaa! to be released....) anyway, she said "i can see why you don't get many....our hair can break off so easy....a lot of these messes, washing them out harshly dries the hair out and can make it really difficult"
which to that, she added it sucks for her bc there are a lot of messes i have showed her she would like to try....i have explained to her what these messes do to MY hair and she was like "oh nooooooo, i cannot have my hair falling out" lol. so, we are restricted to what we can do.
i told her i wanted her using her natural hair for all wetlook and whatnot....but i have come to the conclusion if she does something that would damage her hair, to buy a really nice wig for her to use....but it concerns me bc yes, i do rely on sales. i don't want her wearing a wig to put people off.
so, my question....if you saw naomi with different hair, a wig of sorts, would it be off putting to you?
i think she looks fantastic in white mess and i want to put her in shaving foam slime but i KNOW what shaving foam does to MY HAIR.....it would damage hers SO BAD.
any takers on this question?? bc i would really like to get her in it!!
She is mixed race. momma is white and daddy is black. so, her hair, it LOOKS like my hair....except at the roots. I told her about the lack of girls of her race (because she defines herself as black or caramel in one of my vids! hahaa! to be released....) anyway, she said "i can see why you don't get many....our hair can break off so easy....a lot of these messes, washing them out harshly dries the hair out and can make it really difficult"
which to that, she added it sucks for her bc there are a lot of messes i have showed her she would like to try....i have explained to her what these messes do to MY hair and she was like "oh nooooooo, i cannot have my hair falling out" lol. so, we are restricted to what we can do.
i told her i wanted her using her natural hair for all wetlook and whatnot....but i have come to the conclusion if she does something that would damage her hair, to buy a really nice wig for her to use....but it concerns me bc yes, i do rely on sales. i don't want her wearing a wig to put people off.
so, my question....if you saw naomi with different hair, a wig of sorts, would it be off putting to you?
i think she looks fantastic in white mess and i want to put her in shaving foam slime but i KNOW what shaving foam does to MY HAIR.....it would damage hers SO BAD.
any takers on this question?? bc i would really like to get her in it!!
More BTS, clips, messes, wetlook+fetish on my OF!
LovePie said:
Jayce said : so, my question....if you saw Naomi with different hair, a wig of sorts, would it be off putting to you?
No it wouldn't. Besides the use of different wigs opens options to different fantasies.
Lastly, If the wam mess is causing hair loss, use a wig . Remember wam is suppose to be fun for all parties and the health and safety of the models is paramount.
oh for sure! I would never get her in a mess that would damage her hair that badly. I mean, I have hair fall out all the time when I wam and damaged....but I have a fuck ton of hair. so, you cant really tell. lol. I have TOO MUCH fucking hair! she is interested in playing in some of the more harsh things on your hair but I told her that if people don't want to see her in a wig, I am not gonna do it with her bc, you know, I gotta make up for what we mess with and camera man and paying her and blah dee dah. I am about to order her a nice wig online. I think she would look good with a wig that looked like her real hair to be honest! im thinking kind of a crop, to the collar bone type deal. so we don't steer too far from what her hair really looks like
Jayce said : so, my question....if you saw Naomi with different hair, a wig of sorts, would it be off putting to you?
No it wouldn't. Besides the use of different wigs opens options to different fantasies.
Lastly, If the wam mess is causing hair loss, use a wig . Remember wam is suppose to be fun for all parties and the health and safety of the models is paramount.
oh for sure! I would never get her in a mess that would damage her hair that badly. I mean, I have hair fall out all the time when I wam and damaged....but I have a fuck ton of hair. so, you cant really tell. lol. I have TOO MUCH fucking hair! she is interested in playing in some of the more harsh things on your hair but I told her that if people don't want to see her in a wig, I am not gonna do it with her bc, you know, I gotta make up for what we mess with and camera man and paying her and blah dee dah. I am about to order her a nice wig online. I think she would look good with a wig that looked like her real hair to be honest! im thinking kind of a crop, to the collar bone type deal. so we don't steer too far from what her hair really looks like
More BTS, clips, messes, wetlook+fetish on my OF!
I love Candi! I think she's one of the most beautiful African American models to star in a messy video in a long time.
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