Hi there!

For quite some time now, I hardly find any videos here or in Clips4Sale or elsewhere that really inspire me. For a while Splosh! and Messyfun! could really inspire me (mainly early 2000s) and then followed a period of many years of memberships on sites like Allwam.net (ca. 2008-2016) and SinDrive (ca. 2014-2018). Currently, it's hard for me to find a single video here and there (e.g. from Wambabes, Mostwam, or from studios on Clips4Sale) that comes close to the qualities of those sites for me. If I see something, I instantly buy it, but it's really rare.

What I'm looking for are videos that focus on the clothes (clean, initial staining, really messy, eventually physical destruction) and the beauty and grace of their wearer. Expensive blouses, noble fabrics, elaborate make-up, great hair and then always new game forms when making stains, smearing and ruining (e.g. from voluntary/playful, to accidental, to forced). Since I'm also a fan of clothes ripping, that's also allowed to happen. Plus a nice setup - I don't like it when the background is covered with foil, and I am looking for very good lighting and camera work. I would love to get back into a long term membership, but unfortunately I can't find what I'm looking for anymore.

Therefore my question: Does anyone know a site with regular updates, to which the above criteria apply? The sites well-known here in the UMD environment often have a certain feature that I unfortunately do not like so much, such as that the videos at Mostwam always end with the shower and there is not even a surprise ending with the destruction of the dresses, or at Messygirl, where in my opinion the makeup has improved greatly in recent years, but for me there are simply too few noble blouses made of satin or silk. Allwam had all that and I really miss it.

Who may feel the same way and who can give me some advice?
Thank you very much!
Danny

Sounds like a custom request.

Also remember the stuff you saw first always seems better. Like theres a nostalgia factor of first discovery.

I know exactly how you feel. Some of Allwam's early work was phenomenal. You had lawyers in business suits fighting and getting messy, destroying expensive clothes. The hair and makeup was great and they did indoor and outdoor shoots in natural locations with good lighting.

I must also commend the excellent mostwam team. They have done some amazing shots over the years where well groomed women in suits get ruined in mud and food etc.

You probably need to book a custom video and be very explicit in what you're looking for. Save up some money and do it properly.

Yeah, well Eromaxx/Tainster/SinDrive (companies that owned AllWAM) was/is a LARGE porn empire with a LARGE bank account and could afford insane locations, fuck parties of like 50 people (mostly porn stars), a never ending wardrobe, and high end professional talent.

When you have that kind of money you can do a lot more.

Even the next biggest producers in WAM over the years Rob Blaine (MessyFun) MK (WAMTEC), and Leonmoomin (Mostwam) can't come close to that and it's not for lack of trying. Plus everyone has a different style of shooting with different things they want to see.

Yes I like the Allwam/Tainster stuff, the outfits were gorgeous, I think they were from somewhere called Alta Moda Di Praga, and the girls looked amazing, to add to it, the sexy satin suits etc, quite often got ripped and destroyed.

I had a great custom done by Most wam where Charlotte wore a smart, tight suit and got trashed with pies, recommended.

Well, honestly I think you are absolutely right concerning the nostalgia factor. When it comes to a solution to my problem, I think I cannot solve it through ordering one or more customs. Many of the videos I really like are multi-girl videos with a number of great clothing items. A membership with certain sites at the right time guaranteed at least two videos of that quality per month or even more. This kind of spoiled me I guess, but I am really missing this. I keep hoping that one of the bigger porn networks sees the potential in this field and jumps in. They have the money to produce this kind of videos and I would be more than happy to pay for a subscription.

Those were the days... I still have local copies of every single video that was ever produced by the Tainster network and SinDrive. Really great material - superb clothing, adequate styling, pretty models. Unfortunately, they have discontinued to produce such great material. Rumor says, too many people shared the stuff via certain platforms and the producers stopped doing the expensive material. A shame. Very sad.

I fully understand your point. What I am wondering about is why there is none of the big established porn megasites interested in filling this void? The market/audience was obviously large enough to allow for the abovementioned very expensive production methods for much more than a decade. We are still here as customers. I have the feeling the community is actually growing. Feels to me like lost opportunities.

Have you downloaded these 2 Videos, they cover all you ask for.

https://wambabesvideo.com

clip 640 HD Sex Toy Party w/ Ariel & Jayce! Mutual Masturbation!

and this other one

Ariel's Archives - clip 489 HD $500 Silk Lingerie Trashed/Ripped

Tazzer

You answered that one in your last post sadly.

Although the overall audience numbers might have grown, it's become divided into smaller and more specialised groups. With market saturation (nearly as many producers as audience members), audiences are a million times more particular.

The few producers of the early 2000s could rely on a virtually captive audience, attract a large proportion of it, whilst also (to a great extent) impose upon that audience, their own particular tastes.

Although I think I'm one who would share your tastes we are now very much just such a niche minority. Alas, the themes that draw the biggest audiences are now probably now the least remarkable.

There have been several attempts to create 'epic' scenes in the last 10 years but these have largely been exhibition pieces and lost money. Every element that attracts someone will deter someone else.

Leon Moomin is not one to miss a business opportunity but he conceded a few years ago that there would never again be such lavish speculative productions as Top Gunge - unless someone else was bankrolling them.

Hi Tazzer,

thank you very much for this advice. I actually bought a number of Ariel's Videos and I like them quite much. I have 242, 331, 374, 394, 431, 441, 464, 479, 480, 488, 489, 501, 519, 523, 562, and 640. So, we seem to share the same taste ...

Cheers,
Danny

Hi Trouso,

Thank you so much for these accurate insights and testimonials from Leon Moomin. Of course, this explains why such "material battles" with many models and expensive clothes are rarely produced. I eagerly await such videos and am then also willing to pay more for it. I thought and hoped that this willingness would be more widespread.

Too bad that the producers had to make this negative experience and then such videos are no longer shot or very rarely and as "showcases" to attract attention. It would be ideal, of course, from the consumer's point of view, if a membership site would regularly produce such videos. This then seems more and more utopian. Unfortunately. Too bad!

For me, this means that I will have to spend hours searching in vain, just to find a nice new video. That's just the way it is and I'll do it anyway. Of course. I still love it somehow.

Thanks again and cheers,
Danny

This loosely sounds like the set-up for nearly every custom I've ever financed.

I'm a definite fan of "GlamWAM", where the models start out looking their best and are encouraged to pose and model before the mess starts.

Some models, like the total babes of Wamwatchers, always understood my assignment and would wear jewelry, makeup, and styled hair, because IMHO the best WAM stars women who dress like they're not expecting any WAM at all.

(Clothes ripping isn't for me, though. I find scenes funnier - and hotter - when the model remains clothed in the mess, acting as though nothing out of the ordinary is happening.)

Coming into this thread a bit late when most relevant comments have already been made (joys of living half way around the world from anything). I agree that there has been a sizeable drop-off in formalwear content in recent years. AllWAM was great beyond words when Barbara Summer was running it but since her departure some years ago it started going downhill somewhat in terms of variety of outfits and models (IMO - others may disagree). Plus the models also looked like they were having more fun back then! Certainly MostWAM in days of yore provided a plethora of gowns, formal blouses and suits etc but I guess production costs and public demand now dictates what becomes product. As some folk say, you may need to look at doing customs. With ebay you can probably score excellent formal clothing that suits your taste at the fraction of the cost of new but best to discuss that with the potential producer. I know some models baulk at the idea of wearing second-hand clothing, even if it has been freshly laundered and pressed.

Best of luck finding more of what you are looking for!

Hi Mel,

thank you very much for your reply. I totally agree about the evolution of Allwam over time. They had a great time between about 2007 and 2011 with terrific models in great dresses and total smearing and mess, but then more and more video shoots were done in semi-professional environments without proper lighting etc, which was a real shame. Sometimes these videos still featured very nice blouses, but unfortunately the picture quality was sometimes so disturbing that oftentimes unfortunately no fun came up. The joy with me was then great when SinDrive came up and relatively frequently noble blouses were stained and ruined with oil. For classic WAM, for example with sweet foods and desserts, I was back then able to find enough videos that I was able to buy from other studios in between. So my world was still in order...

Today, unfortunately, it looks different: No regular updates of a subscribed page anymore (as SinDrive is down now and SINX had only some good content in about the first year of it's existence) and only a good video here and there at the other studios. In the past, I sometimes spent 3 digit $ per month here on UMD and on other platforms like Clips4Sale. Nowadays, it takes me two or three months until I find one or two videos that may work well for me. It's a shame.

With customs I have to say they do not work well for me. I watch videos only once or twice per year, oftentimes only the best scene of it, so I think quite frankly that spending a few hundred $ on a production myself is not optimal.

Sorry for complaining so much. I'm a spoiled brat...

Cheers,
Danny

Splash of glamour sound like your thing if you missed it.