As I have mentioned previously, when at weddings I have had fair success at find ingWAM "partners." Not women who are into WAM necessarily, but women who are willing to indulge me.
The wedding was one where I didn't know many people. It was the wedding of one of my very long time clients and she wanted me to be there since I've known her son since he was a baby. I was exhausted after playing volleyball all afternoon, but I went anyway.
It was a very nice wedding. I planed to be there for cocktails, the dinner and stay for a few songs and then leave.
About 3 songs into the music after dinner...I was talking to the grooms mom..ie...my long time client...and I believe they were playing Miley Cyrus' "Party in the USA".... and the dance floor was packed and I"m thinking "ok, finish my drink and I'm outta here."
But then the song ends and people come off the dance floor and this woman comes over and sits down next to us and says "I'm too old for this dance stuff." And my client introduces me to Karen. And Karen says "make a joke about my name and I'll kill you." I liked her immediately. So, my client gets up to circulate around the room and leaves Karen and I by ourselves. I ask if she's thirsty...can I get her a drink. She says "water" would be great. So I get her some water and come back to the table and we start to talk.
Karen: Thank you. You know I really wouln't have killed you. I probably woudln't have just thrown the water in your face.
Me: You know some people might enjoy that.
(She stops mid gulp and says: Oh really? Are YOU on of those people?
Me: Maybe.
(This has to be the fastest intro into WAM I ever tried)
Karen: Ya know, that could be fun if done properly. Would you return the favor? Throw water on me?
Me: Maybe
Karen: Even in my nice outfit? (She was in a lace jumpsuit)
Me: Maybe that would make it better. We could even toss in a cream pie.
Karen: This is going to be fun conversation
(At this point UNBELIEVABLY Marvin Gaye's "Let's Get it On" starts playing.
Karen: Would you like to dance.
Me: Absolutely
(Karen says while dancing): You are a bold man Mr. Rob. (I use "Rob" for business).
Me: I am?
Karen: Bold and honest. I like that.
Me: You forgot old and pudgy
Karen: Just like I like them
Me: Am I a "them?"
Karen: You are now.
We sit back down and she immediately goes and gets her purse from another table and says she has to leave and get home to let out her dogs. Then, she takes a pen and gives me her email addy and cell phone number.on a napkin.
She gives me a kiss on the cheek and says....we'll do dinner and talk a bit more. Unless you want to go by the sweets table and toss the cake in my face (she laughs). Call me after Wednesday.
And she leaves.
Both my client AND her husband sit down next to me.
My client: Looks like you and Karen hit it off nicely.
Client's husband:Rob, how come every time we see you, you are always dancing or talking to the prettiest woman in the room, other than my wife of course. In Miami, you were dancing with a super model. In New York, another model and now Karen, who I think we can agree is rather attractive.
Me: I swear to God Nick, this is a relatively new phenomena. This never started happening until my mid 40's. I can't explain it. It's baffling to me too.
And so...on Wednesday I shall give Karen a call.
But it's still freakin' baffling. I'm old, overweight and I think we can agree my sense of humor is questionable.
cmfan777 said: S-T-Y-L-E. Being confident in one's own skin is a very desirable trait. If you got it, flaunt it.
There is no question that as I hit my 40's my confidence was very high mainly because I learned not to give a chit about rejection either in business or socially in a WAM respect.
But style? LOL...no. I would never EVER use that word to describe myself.
Client's husband:Rob, how come every time we see you, you are always dancing or talking to the prettiest woman in the room, other than my wife of course. In Miami, you were dancing with a super model. In New York, another model and now Karen, who I think we can agree is rather attractive.
I'm sure you're being self-deprecating Robby, but certainly confidence goes a long way. I know in my single days I'd have thought about saying 'You know some people might enjoy that' but then not actually said it and the moment would have passed. Oh the missed opportunities.....
I don't think WAM is actually as far-out or weird as many of us tend to assume it is. Ok, walking up to random strangers and saying you want to tie them to a bondage chair and half-drown them in decomposing fish residue might not have quite the desired effect - but being natural, and sociable, and true to yourself, comes over as an honest that many people will find appealing and attractive in someone.
As often comes up in the "how to get a WAM partner" threads, the trick isn't to look for a wammer, but to look for a fun-loving person who isn't freaked out at the thought of being a bit messy.
After sleeping on this, I have come to the conclusion that this "phenomenon" is at least HALF if not more perpetuated by people's access to the internet which does actually correspond with my last 20 years of insane "luck."
I think people have become aware of all the "kinks" out there and therefore have become somewhat desentitized that people have them, so that when they hear one which is as goofy as ours (in most cases) they say..."eh..so what."
Also, as a friend of mine (who knows about the WAM thing, but would never WAM) keeps saying "How come I keep seeing people getting slimed all over the internet?"
I remember in the early days of the internet when I would use the same approach, it was mostly "you're weird", "no way" and "not a chance."
Again, I think social media and the internet itself has obviously changed how people think about a lot of things including our kink/fetish.
Client's husband:Rob, how come every time we see you, you are always dancing or talking to the prettiest woman in the room, other than my wife of course. In Miami, you were dancing with a super model. In New York, another model and now Karen, who I think we can agree is rather attractive.
This sounds so real
Got news for ya, it's not "real" to me either. It's kinda freaky actually. But because I work in and around the media biz I am generally where there are attractive women. The super model thing was actually weirder because I'm only 5' 9' and she was 6' plus at least 3 inch heels. I felt like I was at my high school prom. She was also a good example of a gorgeous woman who I would NEVER bring up the WAM thing to. Didn't have my "sense of humor."
I've been here for so long and am so desensitized by Robby's cringe-worthy sense of humor that I clicked on this thread titled "Yes, this is baffling." and fully expected to see a graphic like this:
DungeonMasterOne said: I don't think WAM is actually as far-out or weird as many of us tend to assume it is. Ok, walking up to random strangers and saying you want to tie them to a bondage chair and half-drown them in decomposing fish residue might not have quite the desired effect...
AW2 said: I've been here for so long and am so desensitized by Robby's cringe-worthy sense of humor that I clicked on this thread titled "Yes, this is baffling." and fully expected to see a graphic like this:
Ah but Robby has always been the WAM Whisperer.....
It's not hard to talk to attractive women, especially if you don't bring up WAM! I do miss the days when I could just "recruit" models over conversation tho. (That would be 2004-2008.)
Not sure what's changed.... other than the fact that women in that age bracket are now all married with multiple kids. A bit tricky to bring up WAM in those situations.
DungeonMasterOne said: I don't think WAM is actually as far-out or weird as many of us tend to assume it is. Ok, walking up to random strangers and saying you want to tie them to a bondage chair and half-drown them in decomposing fish residue might not have quite the desired effect - but being natural, and sociable, and true to yourself, comes over as an honest that many people will find appealing and attractive in someone.
As often comes up in the "how to get a WAM partner" threads, the trick isn't to look for a wammer, but to look for a fun-loving person who isn't freaked out at the thought of being a bit messy.
Hope things work out well for you both!
Wam as a fetish is kind of weird and out there. But it's also just fun , not as a fetish...that's why people keep getting slimed,pied and into food fights on TV - it's not a secret cabal of sploshing producers controlling the entire media industry. And actually, fun is one of the things people look for in others. It's not something you should bring up all of the time and with everyone. But in the right time and place, you can definitely find people who are open to it as part of a sexual relationship or as just a bit of messy fun too.
I mean, in 1979 it took a lot of work to win my wife, of 40 years, over.
Now, my first wife....
As my subject head said.....it's always baffled me.
Part of it is that I have absolutely zero fear of rejection. And that has been true since college days. I was the guy at the bar who always asked the pretty girls to dance. In retrospect very few said 'No." And if they did......next.
As I said...I think social media's largest acceptance has a lot to do with it.
I remember back in the mid to late 90's when I would frequent AOL chat rooms and my friends would say "you meet people from the internet...are you crazy?"
The wedding I went to last night......yep, they met on the internet and nobody even remotely thinks it's crazy.
Keep in mind that every model I hired for WLP and SPTG I did not know UNTIL I met them on the internet. So first they had to accept me ....and then the entire WAM thing.
It's weird to think of, but honestly if I was still shooting full time, I agree with Rich it would be far more difficult to find models for videos. But I think it would be much easier (apparently) to find WAM "friends."
Also keep in mind my interest only has WAM and some minor safe sexual play so that may have a lot to do with my "success" as well.
Plus most of the women I "play" with can outrun me.
SlapstickStuff said: Ah but Robby has always been the WAM Whisperer.....
It's not hard to talk to attractive women, especially if you don't bring up WAM! I do miss the days when I could just "recruit" models over conversation tho. (That would be 2004-2008.)
Not sure what's changed.... other than the fact that women in that age bracket are now all married with multiple kids. A bit tricky to bring up WAM in those situations.
Rich, as you have mentioned before what's changed is that women aren't as hesitant to "perform" on social media due to TikTok, Instagram, etc...which is good, but is also bad in that what do they need a producer for? At least that's what they think. But the smart ones make a deal with a producer who helps promote and markets them.
As I keep saying...making a WAM video isn't really any different than any other video when it comes to sales, promotion and marketing. You have to know how do all 3.
I love that a bunch of men are talking about how much more willing women are to appear on media. Yeah, that sounds about right. How many females do we have on here offering free content? Every model I have talked to and I have talked to four or five messygirl models, and others. They do these videos for the money. Pay them there rate and they will do it.