If permanent records are the worry, then it's already way too late. Every web server logs every visit. The "privacy on the internet" ship sailed decades ago and isn't coming back. Watching celeb gunge on YT? Logged and recorded.
Basically, every time you use any Internet service, assume that all the data about every visit is being shared and recorded by every security service you've ever heard of, and many more you haven't. And no, declining cookies or using encrypted VPNs makes no difference at all. A VPN will get past idiot local attempts to police or age-gate what people can see, but those who really want data will operate way deeper than that.
Far too many people still believe in the privacy fairy. She's a bit like Santa Claus, great fun, but fantasy.
On another tack, I've never understood why "wanker" is an insult. Literally every single human ever has done it. You might as well call someone an air-breather, food-eater, or clothes-wearer.
Wanking is fun. It's also healthy, regular ejaculation (at least 21 times a month) massively reduces the risk of prostate cancer in men. If someone doesn't have a partner who wants sex that often, wanking is the way to go to reach the goal.
Totally as DungeonMasterOne says, the ship of privacy sailed long ago.
While in a very boring government job a few years back, I touched on some sensitive matters and had to do the UK and US govt security interviews. The concern isn't people looking at porn or having kinks, that's accepted as natural human behaviour, it's if you or your colleagues will crack up and go crazy or commit treason if someone tries to blackmail you about your private lives.
Not the most relaxing conversations I've ever had tbh, but I see their point, and hey they bought me a coffee and a piece of cake each time...
Enjoy the sunshine if you're in the UK today, gunge of course a great way of keeping cool
goldfishbowl said: I choose to watch YouTube of celebs getting gunged as opposed to the great paid content out there.
The reason isn't the money, I'm more afraid of the bank statement. A permanent legal document of being a wanker.
While I understand the concern my question is, do you have a partner who knows about your kink?
That would be, in my mind the biggest thing about this. If you don't, then most places are very discreet about names and what not. If you do and you're worried about them finding out, then maybe it's time to talk with them about it, set up boundaries and maybe have a limit on what you can, can't order and how much.
goldfishbowl said: I choose to watch YouTube of celebs getting gunged as opposed to the great paid content out there.
The reason isn't the money, I'm more afraid of the bank statement. A permanent legal document of being a wanker.
While I understand the concern my question is, do you have a partner who knows about your kink?
That would be, in my mind the biggest thing about this. If you don't, then most places are very discreet about names and what not. If you do and you're worried about them finding out, then maybe it's time to talk with them about it, set up boundaries and maybe have a limit on what you can, can't order and how much.
This is an outstanding line of thought.
While DM1 is of course correct to say that internet privacy is essentially a contradiction in terms, it's relatively unlikely that someone's friends or loved ones are going to monitor their IP traffic or hunt down their browser fingerprint or buy their activity records from a consumer-modeling firm or anything like that. It's much more likely that someone in your life will catch a glimpse of a bank statement, come into the room at the wrong time, or open up your device and just kind of poke around to see what they can find. If that does happen, it's really helpful to be able to have a mature, controlled conversation with them about it. And if you feel like you can't have that conversation, then it's worth really thinking about why that's the case and what it says about the balance of power and trust in the relationship.
(Now, on the other hand, if you really are worried about being blackmailed by a bank employee (or, like, persecuted by some kind of autocratic government or something), then that's a different story. Exercise your political power to help establish sex-positive regimes, exercise your social power to help destigmatize healthy sexuality, and I guess maybe check in with a mental health professional to see if some of this isn't irrational anxiety.)
If you have an addiction or someone in your life who you promised not to spend money on content, I won't encourage you to circumvent that. Some video or photos aren't worth all that.
BUT if you have nothing tethering you to this resolution and it is just in fact a matter of documentation, then this is really an issue of self-consciousness and shame more than anything else. I've got no advice for you except a lot of introspection, perspective, and time on some professional's couch. There are over 8 billion people in this world, however many million in your country, and a whole host of people in your general vicinity who don't know you from Adam. Everyone is a wanker and nobody cares if you're one too. Resolving not to buy content you're interested in because you think your self-pleasure habits are somehow significant enough to matter to anyone but you is a great way to needlessly miss out on a lot of joy in life.
Why are you concerned about the government finding out what you spank it to? Most purchases through here are labeled epoch. Please tell me how to identify what category of spank material is referenced here.
Is there a chance that it is not the government, but the people around you who may shame you for having a more interesting sex life than they have. Where you are not afraid to explore yourself sexually to find what the peak pleasure is for you?
dalamar666 said: Most purchases through here are labeled epoch.
It depends. Purchases used to come up as Nocturnal Theory LLC and still comes up as Epoch via PayPal (then PayPal is recorded on the relevant source of funds), but a direct purchase via visa credit last came up for me as LoverBuns LLC. It doesn't matter to me - but I can see that this would seriously not be an ideal transaction description for some. I'm not entirely sure how much control Messmaster has over these descriptions. My experience has been that it's much in the hands of the processor.
I agree that the online privacy delusion is probably a futile battle, but I don't think that's a reason to avoid trying. There are some decent tools out there, before giving in to Roko's basilisk. To add perspective, some folk have a Twitter blue tick on their card bill. Better to be a wanker than a twat.
DungeonMasterOne said: If permanent records are the worry, then it's already way too late. Every web server logs every visit. The "privacy on the internet" ship sailed decades ago and isn't coming back. Watching celeb gunge on YT? Logged and recorded.
Basically, every time you use any Internet service, assume that all the data about every visit is being shared and recorded by every security service you've ever heard of, and many more you haven't. And no, declining cookies or using encrypted VPNs makes no difference at all. A VPN will get past idiot local attempts to police or age-gate what people can see, but those who really want data will operate way deeper than that.
Far too many people still believe in the privacy fairy. She's a bit like Santa Claus, great fun, but fantasy.