Hey there group. I'm Harley wam. (Jeff)
I am NOT trying to upset or dont want to start any negativity ! Just trying to understand a few things. When I joined this sight , there was so many good and awsome amateur photos and homemade videos. Now I see pros and set up seans and now so many guys with guys. Also everything is buy this and pay for that and really less free sights. We all like money. but for one and I'm sorry for this but I'm not into guys. And as for the lady's, it seems like they do it only for the money.. I guess that I liked the good old days where people did this for fun and not the money as I did. I thought the best shots were the candid and the people like me who had this fetish from childhood on . Where did the wam dating go? Did I just get old or did I miss something? Have fun all.

Firstly, I think this isn't a negative inquiry at all. Have you been away from the site for awhile?

The site has definitely evolved over the past few years. There are still quite a few people that post their own amateur pics and vids. But people come and go all the time. Lives change, we get older, and sometimes some people decide they don't want this kind of presence online anymore.

MM has set up the site to be a hub for the greater Wet and Messy community at large. While many producers still have their own sites and the like, they also show things here too. I don't understand your gripe here though. When I first discovered WAM in 1999, most of it was pay per view too (in the form of tapes and dvds you bought). WAMTEC, Messyfun, etc. Then sub sites like WAMbabes and Pattycake came out. I mean, it's been this way for over 20 years. Pay for content is nothing new.

Generally the people making it are trying to get money for it because unless you're a really successful producer, you're not making much. Hell some producers lose money and have to close up shop because they can't afford to keep hiring the models, or buying the mess, cleaning supplies, video tech, etc. I think it was Leila who even said they were cutting back on WAM shoots because they are more expensive and make less compared to BDSM, etc. I mean, modelling is her (and many other's) livelihood.

Women, doing it for the money, sure there's a lot of them that are professional models doing a job, but a lot of real women that LOVE WAM. MyPierogative, Jayce, Ariel, Candy, Cleo, I could go on. Many of these women actually enjoy getting messy. There are easier ways to make money.

Male content is something newer to the site. MM wanted to his site to become more than listings and a simple forum. Why should it only be for guys into girls for instance. Now, everyone has different tastes, so we have some filters that you can use if you don't want to see male content. Mark it "strict" if you don't want to see anything that may even have coed content. There are on the flipside a lot of other people that don't want to see female content too. Send a message to Messmaster if you're having a problem with them.

For the WAM dating, we still have personals and a chat function. You're on your own for meeting people and building a rapport with them. We've added groups to advertise meetups and functions for users across the globe. There's honestly more now than ever before.

I hope that answers some of your questions and that you start to feel at home here again.

like I said, I don't have a gripe and I don't want to upset anyone. I guess I miss the old days I guess, I got older and understand models need to make money. I have been off for a bit but always checked back. I am glad more people are into wam. it just seams like I did a time worp and there is so many new things, thank you. have a wet and messy day.