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"Using Real Grease?"
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Hi guys,
I've seen a couple of videos here on UMD with people playing in black 'grease' and I'm really interested in trying it out, but I'm curious if store-bought grease is safe to use? It's clearly marked as 'grease' in many videos. I've tried some fake tar recipes but I've always wanted to know if it's safe to use the real thing.
Thanks!
I've seen a couple of videos here on UMD with people playing in black 'grease' and I'm really interested in trying it out, but I'm curious if store-bought grease is safe to use? It's clearly marked as 'grease' in many videos. I've tried some fake tar recipes but I've always wanted to know if it's safe to use the real thing.
Thanks!
Saturation Hall, Langstonedale
Lord of the Pies
The way to check anything like that is to find the data sheets for the exact product you're looking at, they should be available on-line and will contain any necessary warnings about toxicity and whether skin should be protected from contact.
A quick google suggests that being mainly based on hydrocarbons, grease in general isn't something you want to be in contact with for any length of time. And used grease is liable to be very toxic as it'll have absorbed lots of nasties.
I think the WAM scenes involving "grease" mostly use gunge or food-based alternatives.
A quick google suggests that being mainly based on hydrocarbons, grease in general isn't something you want to be in contact with for any length of time. And used grease is liable to be very toxic as it'll have absorbed lots of nasties.
I think the WAM scenes involving "grease" mostly use gunge or food-based alternatives.
Saturation Hall - Forth! The Gungemaidens!
Paraffin wax is used in cosmetics, so is skin safe, and I've occasionally wondered about combining it with black powder paint or mehron powder to make a properly greasy grease. But then I've thought about the cleanup and I've gone back to mud or slime! Seriously - before you do this, rub a blob into the back of your hand and see how much washing it requires to get it off, then think whether you really want to be doing that all over!!
DungeonMasterOne said: The way to check anything like that is to find the data sheets for the exact product you're looking at, they should be available on-line and will contain any necessary warnings about toxicity and whether skin should be protected from contact.
A quick google suggests that being mainly based on hydrocarbons, grease in general isn't something you want to be in contact with for any length of time. And used grease is liable to be very toxic as it'll have absorbed lots of nasties.
I think the WAM scenes involving "grease" mostly use gunge or food-based alternatives.
A quick google suggests that being mainly based on hydrocarbons, grease in general isn't something you want to be in contact with for any length of time. And used grease is liable to be very toxic as it'll have absorbed lots of nasties.
I think the WAM scenes involving "grease" mostly use gunge or food-based alternatives.
I was wondering the same thing. Common sense tells me the real stuff is rather quite dangerous, but I've looked at some data sheets and some do say 'mild irritation' will occur after prolonged contact.
From what I gathered, some people used is 'graphite grease.'
Reiver2 said: Paraffin wax is used in cosmetics, so is skin safe, and I've occasionally wondered about combining it with black powder paint or mehron powder to make a properly greasy grease. But then I've thought about the cleanup and I've gone back to mud or slime! Seriously - before you do this, rub a blob into the back of your hand and see how much washing it requires to get it off, then think whether you really want to be doing that all over!!
Sounds like a good experiment waiting to happen! I wonder if paraffin will harden too much at room temp, but it's definitely skin safe (and probably food safe too?)
I did try the Tar recipe from UMD's Wiki and it works pretty well, but it lacks that slightly matte-ness and gooey-ness you see with real tar.
I had a client send me this as a "body safe" grease alternative - black buttercream frosting.
It's definitely dark but isn't EXACTLY like grease once filmed. But definitely worth looking at as an alternative!!
Rich's JW Allen Pre-Whipped Icing ZTF, Black, Buttercream, 240 Ounce https://a.co/d/36V7uhg
Hope this helps!
~~Mrs
It's definitely dark but isn't EXACTLY like grease once filmed. But definitely worth looking at as an alternative!!
Rich's JW Allen Pre-Whipped Icing ZTF, Black, Buttercream, 240 Ounce https://a.co/d/36V7uhg
Hope this helps!
~~Mrs
Stay messy, friends!
I would stay away from real grease for the safety of the model. We used melted vegetable fat with a lot of black bodypaint pigments as the main ingredients...
But it is quite hard to wash off.
Here are some examples from our great video shoot with Nera Stiletto.
But it is quite hard to wash off.
Here are some examples from our great video shoot with Nera Stiletto.
instagram: @pure_paint
Here is a recipe for a very gooey and thick 'grease' that is perfectly safe AND washes off super-easily.
Take 3 cups of water and add 1/4 cup of arrowroot flour (also called arrowroot powder) You can make more or less by keeping to the same ratio. (example, 3 pails of water to 1/4 pail of arrowroot flour.
Add black tempura paint, the stuff make for children to do water-coloring with.
Now here is the important part:
Mix the cold water and paint in a large enough sauce pan and dump in the powder. Have a flat-edged wooden stir tool handy. Turn on the heat and stir as it heats up. All of the powder will easily dissolve into the water as you stir. Keep going until after you see steam appear, but it is not necessary to boil this, just to get it near the boiling point. As you stir, it will suddenly become thicker, so you know it's done it's magic and can be removed from the heat. Allow it to cool. Be careful as the surface may feel cool while it could still be hot inside. Don't get scalded. I fill the sink with cold water and carefully set the hot pan in it, stirring a little to keep the contents touching the sides and bottom of the pot which will cool it off much faster.
As it cools to room temperature, it will also thicken more. This would be the time to add more water and thoroughly stir it in, if necessary.
It's stringy and slimy and slippery, like grease, but it will rinse away very easily. The paint may stain certain fabrics, but you're probably safe with man-made fibers, rather than natural ones. The fact that tempura paint sometimes gets eaten by children, and that arrowroot powder is from a plant makes this safe enough to eat. (but I don't recommend it)
Take 3 cups of water and add 1/4 cup of arrowroot flour (also called arrowroot powder) You can make more or less by keeping to the same ratio. (example, 3 pails of water to 1/4 pail of arrowroot flour.
Add black tempura paint, the stuff make for children to do water-coloring with.
Now here is the important part:
Mix the cold water and paint in a large enough sauce pan and dump in the powder. Have a flat-edged wooden stir tool handy. Turn on the heat and stir as it heats up. All of the powder will easily dissolve into the water as you stir. Keep going until after you see steam appear, but it is not necessary to boil this, just to get it near the boiling point. As you stir, it will suddenly become thicker, so you know it's done it's magic and can be removed from the heat. Allow it to cool. Be careful as the surface may feel cool while it could still be hot inside. Don't get scalded. I fill the sink with cold water and carefully set the hot pan in it, stirring a little to keep the contents touching the sides and bottom of the pot which will cool it off much faster.
As it cools to room temperature, it will also thicken more. This would be the time to add more water and thoroughly stir it in, if necessary.
It's stringy and slimy and slippery, like grease, but it will rinse away very easily. The paint may stain certain fabrics, but you're probably safe with man-made fibers, rather than natural ones. The fact that tempura paint sometimes gets eaten by children, and that arrowroot powder is from a plant makes this safe enough to eat. (but I don't recommend it)
Pure Paint said: I would stay away from real grease for the safety of the model. We used melted vegetable fat with a lot of black bodypaint pigments as the main ingredients...
But it is quite hard to wash off.
Here are some examples from our great video shoot with Nera Stiletto.
But it is quite hard to wash off.
Here are some examples from our great video shoot with Nera Stiletto.
Oh wow that looks awesome! Thanks for the recommendation.
Bobographer said: Here is a recipe for a very gooey and thick 'grease' that is perfectly safe AND washes off super-easily.
Take 3 cups of water and add 1/4 cup of arrowroot flour (also called arrowroot powder) You can make more or less by keeping to the same ratio. (example, 3 pails of water to 1/4 pail of arrowroot flour.
Add black tempura paint, the stuff make for children to do water-coloring with.
Now here is the important part:
Mix the cold water and paint in a large enough sauce pan and dump in the powder. Have a flat-edged wooden stir tool handy. Turn on the heat and stir as it heats up. All of the powder will easily dissolve into the water as you stir. Keep going until after you see steam appear, but it is not necessary to boil this, just to get it near the boiling point. As you stir, it will suddenly become thicker, so you know it's done it's magic and can be removed from the heat. Allow it to cool. Be careful as the surface may feel cool while it could still be hot inside. Don't get scalded. I fill the sink with cold water and carefully set the hot pan in it, stirring a little to keep the contents touching the sides and bottom of the pot which will cool it off much faster.
As it cools to room temperature, it will also thicken more. This would be the time to add more water and thoroughly stir it in, if necessary.
It's stringy and slimy and slippery, like grease, but it will rinse away very easily. The paint may stain certain fabrics, but you're probably safe with man-made fibers, rather than natural ones. The fact that tempura paint sometimes gets eaten by children, and that arrowroot powder is from a plant makes this safe enough to eat. (but I don't recommend it)
Take 3 cups of water and add 1/4 cup of arrowroot flour (also called arrowroot powder) You can make more or less by keeping to the same ratio. (example, 3 pails of water to 1/4 pail of arrowroot flour.
Add black tempura paint, the stuff make for children to do water-coloring with.
Now here is the important part:
Mix the cold water and paint in a large enough sauce pan and dump in the powder. Have a flat-edged wooden stir tool handy. Turn on the heat and stir as it heats up. All of the powder will easily dissolve into the water as you stir. Keep going until after you see steam appear, but it is not necessary to boil this, just to get it near the boiling point. As you stir, it will suddenly become thicker, so you know it's done it's magic and can be removed from the heat. Allow it to cool. Be careful as the surface may feel cool while it could still be hot inside. Don't get scalded. I fill the sink with cold water and carefully set the hot pan in it, stirring a little to keep the contents touching the sides and bottom of the pot which will cool it off much faster.
As it cools to room temperature, it will also thicken more. This would be the time to add more water and thoroughly stir it in, if necessary.
It's stringy and slimy and slippery, like grease, but it will rinse away very easily. The paint may stain certain fabrics, but you're probably safe with man-made fibers, rather than natural ones. The fact that tempura paint sometimes gets eaten by children, and that arrowroot powder is from a plant makes this safe enough to eat. (but I don't recommend it)
Will give this a try. I've used tempura paint with cake batter mix before with good results, so I can attest to your recommendation!
Oil/hydrocarbon based greases can be carcinogenic, so there's another thing to consider as well as immediate toxicity.
When reading the sales blurb for Castrol R motor oil, forgetting the "proper use" for it, but with an aya to WAM possibilities, it sounds positively erotic.
Castrol R40 Power 1 is the original, traditional, castor based oil. It provides the ultimate in lubrication. If the best performance possible coupled with reliability is the aim, then the remarkable stamina and great film strength of Castrol R40 provides a valuable margin of safety at ultra high speeds and temperatures. Primarily designed for the racing world; however it's unique properties also benefit private owners interested in high performance.
That is not a recommendation to try though.
Castrol R40 Power 1 is the original, traditional, castor based oil. It provides the ultimate in lubrication. If the best performance possible coupled with reliability is the aim, then the remarkable stamina and great film strength of Castrol R40 provides a valuable margin of safety at ultra high speeds and temperatures. Primarily designed for the racing world; however it's unique properties also benefit private owners interested in high performance.
That is not a recommendation to try though.
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