This video clip is from the James Whale show back in 1993. At that time Bill was the only person in the WAM world brave enough to risk the ridicule and go on mainstream tv shows to be interviewed by jerks like James Whale. Bill was ahead of his time because 25 years later the wam culture is now gaining more acceptance.

The clip is in the free streaming section of Wamflix .

http://www.wamflix.com/video/5b5255fd999b94ac458b4568/tribute-to-splosh/

MK

I used to watch this program post pub every week. I somehow managed to miss this one.

It was very fashionable for alternative TV presenters to be quite nasty around then. His trademark was cutting off callers (and he'd nicked this idea from someone on the radio) and bring generally rude and offhand.
He's pretty horrible to Bill Shipton, actually. Choosing to mock his visual appearance.

Great clip, but James Whale really was a dick, wasn't he.

FYI I edited the clip and only showed the bit with Bill and his girls. I cut out the last part of the footage where dickhead James Whale discusses the subject of sploshing with 2 other dickheads on his show, because they spend the next 5 minutes mocking and ridiculing the subject matter.

They basically said that sploshing was an alternative culture for perverts and weirdos -- imagine if the gay community was mocked and ridiculed that way...James Whale would have been fired from his job within 24hrs.

The good news is that Bill and his magazine did make some progress at advancing the subject matter, because 15 years after appearing on the James Whale show Bill was invited to be on The Graham Norton show, and Graham Norton treated the subject matter and the splosh girls as a bit of fun and with no ridicule. By the mid 2000's Bill was being hired as a consultant for Hollywood movies and TV shows that wanted to do a sploshing scene ...i.e. Director John Waters hired Bill for the Sploshing scene in the movie "A Dirty Shame" and Bill was consulted by the tv producers doing the sploshing scene in "Secret Life of a Call Girl" with Billie Piper".

So, progress has being made, and Bill aided in that. In the past the UK and American tv shows were notorious for trying to engage producers like myself and then mocking us. Often they would not even to bother to contact us for an interview, they just went to our websites and literally stole media from our websites and then cut clips from our media and inserted the clips into their own show. They would steal our media clips for their shows, make fun of our media , and not even credit our website where they stole the media from. The most notorious example came in 2007 with the G4TV channel who created "The International Sexy Ladies Show" which stole media from Allwam, my websites and numerous other fetish wam companies. and then they had the gaul to erase our audio and overdub their own unfunny commentary. This is how we were treated 10 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu84sCJNsDI

It is one thing to steal our media and reedit it without permission and then mock what we do, but if you are going to do that, at least give credit to the websites where you stole it from.

MK

Not in 1993 he wouldn't have been!
We forget how much progress has been made since, but in 1993, Elton John was still in the closet as he didn't want to risk losing his audience. (Along with countless other now "out" celebs.) AIDS was still a death sentence, gay marriage wasn't even a topic for debate, and your employer could absolutely fire you (or refuse to hire you initially) based on your sexual orientation, with zero consequence.

That said, WAM (and other fetishes) can still be easily ridiculed in the mainstream, because our community doesn't have any political or cultural force. The day that a "WAMmer boycott" of a product causes a company's stock price to drop 10% overnight is the day you're taken seriously by the establishment. Until then....
(Although let's be fair: Unlike sexual orientation, most fetishes are easily kept private. A gay wedding ceremony is obvious. A "WAMmer" wedding? Not so much.)


I vaguely remember that clip. Looks like they're making fun of ALL fetishes (not just WAM), but still.
The more notorious G4TV clip was in the wake of the Olivia Munn disaster. I guess the angry WAMmers who attacked the G4TV site got some attention, as the channel ran a segment basically mocking WAMmers outright. (They claimed we were turned on by women EATING pies??) And they swiped some clips from my YouTube at the time... without permission of course. I thought about hiring a lawyer, but realized that would cost me more $$ than it was worth, so I made sure to post a lot of comments on their site "thanking" them for promoting my website... which I linked, naturally. (If I remember, sales went up!)

Quite frankly, Mark, I'm surprised you and the other companies in the first clip didn't pursue legal action. Back then, you were doing $20K shoots so I would assume a $200/hr lawyer wouldn't be an insane investment. Although even then, G4TV was barely a cable-access channel (they're long defunct now) so I doubt you would've won much in a civil case. Maybe you could've owned the network???

Given how quickly trans acceptance has come along (at least in the sense that being transphobic can get you fired now), and how often I see millennials identifying as bisexual or asexual or other nonbinary flavors, I keep hoping that kinkshaming will be the next big thing to become socially unacceptable.

Not holding my breath, though.

I see. So you're happy to discriminate against those who enjoy autoerotic asphxysia then....

Man, I was blasting INXS just the other day!

Too soon...?

Even back in those days we were only a 1 man company with a budget so small it was less than the budget most movie and tv companies spend on their lunch wagon and green room refreshments. Even a small time cable tv outlet like G4TV has millions of dollars and hundreds of employees and lawyers backing them. Remember the origins of G4TV...it was originally called ZDTV after it;s founder ZIff Davis, the billionaire publisher, then later it changed it's name to TECHTV (which was an excellent learning channel for novice pc users like me) and then they basically tossed all their tech tv viewers in the garbage can and decided to change their programming to focus solely on the computer gamers not pc users so they changed their name again to G4TV. I guess they felt they could do anything they darn well pleased, because they were part of a billion dollar corporation, so they could step upon the little cockroaches like us small time wam producers.

10 years ago it was financially impossible for any WAM producer to own their own tv network, because although several of the top producers like Mostwam, Eurowam , Allwam and yourself certainly have thousands of videos in their archives and could sustain lots of programming for a WAM TV CHANNEL via satellite, back then the only way to do it would be to lease transponder space on a satellite and those leasing costs for a channel on Dish Network or Direct TV would be at least $50,000 per monh and way out of our league. Only religious tv companies bring in enough money each month to be able to afford to lease transponder space on a satellite.

HOWEVER, today satellite tv technology is old hat....nobody needs to lease satellite space these days in order to be able to have your own tv channel.....because this is the age of IPTV....and for a very tiny cost (less than 10K in delveloping a platform and apps) it is possible to set up your own IPTV channel that can be fed to any Smart TV or PC via a cheap $30 devices like Roku or Amazon Firestick or Apple TV. Until late last year, all you had to do was set up a "Private Channel" and Roku users could enter a code and receive that channel on their TV sets via Roku. Roku has it's own channel store which lists 1000's of IPTV channels anyone can stream via Roku to their TV.....HOWEVER they will not allow "adult" channels to be listed in their store....but you could set up a "private channel" and just tell people your channel code number on your website and then anybody could download the Roku app and watch those channels if they knew the private code number. Some Roku channels are free, but many are subscription based, and most of the private adult channels are membership fee based. This was all well and good until 2017, and then Roku started cracking down on private IPTV channels using the Roku as a gateway device...and the KODI devices were blacklisted as illegal streaming boxes.....so this year they have been blocking many private IP channels.

Anyway.....it is relatively cheap and easy to set up your own IPTV channel these days....but you need to have thousands of clips or tons of content to sustain an IPTV channel. I can think of 4 producers who could set up their own IPTV channel. Personally I do not have the time to administer an IPTV network, so rather than run the channel myself I would prefer to license my media to somebody else who has the time to manage it. So....if anybody wants to set up a WAM TV channel on IPTV I am willing to license my collection of media as programming material for their channel.

MK

You know, I was so hopeful of this becoming a good thing when the Supreme Court got the ball rolling with gay marriage.

However, I feel it's come full circle with things like "Die Cis Scum", "White Privilege", "White Guilt", etc. mainly I feel because of our current "Cheeto in Chief".

Now it feels like race, sex, gender, etc are more divided than ever... I understand we're never all going to like one another, that's simply nature, and math. However, why can't we be civil and not attack one another? And also, IF someone calls us out on our bullshit, accept it rather than try and deflect blame.

I remember seeing the International Sexy Ladies clip and I never watched the entire thing, but I was hoping it was us getting some good air time, and that you guys were contacted. I was hoping it was like the positive light HBO cast Rob Blaine in, or at least I thought. Not this...

It's because of shit like this, that this site has been a blessing. Finally I don't feel shame over WAM.