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Hey guys. I really like this video and I'm wondering who the creator is. I've searched everything I can think of for Loli messy gameshow and found nothing. Any help would be appreciated!
https://youtu.be/_KNEetc0o2A
https://youtu.be/_KNEetc0o2A
So I guess the youngsters out there are finally stumbling across WAM from YEARS ago. This is from a now defunct site called WAMF. I guess now trolls and people who want to get money from ad clicks are posting this stuff wherever they can.
Is there anyway to access the rest of their archive?
Yeah, keep looking on the internet. I'm sure there's plenty of free paid material out there.
Videowatcher101 said: Is there anyway to access the rest of their archive?
I doubt it, sadly. The main producer/owner, who also did plenty of modelling herself, was called Fawn. She was very active on here in the 2000s when the original website was at its peak and then came back, after a lengthy break, in about 2012/13 and posted lots of old films. However...
She's long gone again. I think she got very unreliable with customs, and was apparently quite rude to some customers, so disappeared in about 2014/15 and took all the films down.
Given the way she burnt her bridges, I doubt there'll be another comeback in the future so I'm afraid that's that for the WAMF back catalogue. A shame, as it was very good and had some great models. (Loli, in your YT clip, was a particularly good one.)
Randomly stumbling across some of them on YT is the best you'll do now.
Damn that sucks. Thanks for the detailed response!
I think she got very unreliable with customs, and was apparently quite rude to some customers...
I've seen this repeated a few times now and I would just like to say that I had a slightly different experience when she made her return. She offered customs with one of my favorite models (Cree) and I jumped at the chance. After exchanging a couple of emails I made the order and sent her the money. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, Cree became unavailable. Fawn offered another model and when I declined she very promptly and apologetically returned my money. It was slightly disappointing but I didn't consider it a big deal at all. In the next movie that Fawn released she actually did some of the things that I requested in my custom. I thought that was an unnecessary but nice gesture.
So, I don't know the whole backstory of that brief return but I wanted to add my two cents to the public WAMF record.
What's the Dark Knight quote? "Die a hero, or live long enough to become the villain."
I'm paraphrasing, but it's an all-too-common occurrence for former "heroes" of WAM to basically burn down their legacies as they exit. Messy Jessy was the most recent, but it happened with Fawn and Neil Edwards too, and both of them had longer careers and (possibly) larger bodies of work before they became persona non grata here.
Phoebe also made a couple returns here and kinda pissed some folks off, although she wasn't banned or anything. (Although her stuff is long gone now.) I think WAMTEC Mark basically divulging that she never enjoyed WAM and only did it on the insistence of her boyfriend (who also pretended to be her in most convos)..... probably did more damage to her legacy, although again, that was after she was long gone and her vids were unavailable.
Also, some people simply move on, and either pull down their stuff to close that chapter in their life.... or they just don't feel like maintaining a site. Or it's a tragedy like MessyFun, where most of those classic clips are gone forever. Kudos to folks like Mark and Lenny for keeping their old 90s and 00s videos available, but they're the exceptions to the rule.
I'm paraphrasing, but it's an all-too-common occurrence for former "heroes" of WAM to basically burn down their legacies as they exit. Messy Jessy was the most recent, but it happened with Fawn and Neil Edwards too, and both of them had longer careers and (possibly) larger bodies of work before they became persona non grata here.
Phoebe also made a couple returns here and kinda pissed some folks off, although she wasn't banned or anything. (Although her stuff is long gone now.) I think WAMTEC Mark basically divulging that she never enjoyed WAM and only did it on the insistence of her boyfriend (who also pretended to be her in most convos)..... probably did more damage to her legacy, although again, that was after she was long gone and her vids were unavailable.
Also, some people simply move on, and either pull down their stuff to close that chapter in their life.... or they just don't feel like maintaining a site. Or it's a tragedy like MessyFun, where most of those classic clips are gone forever. Kudos to folks like Mark and Lenny for keeping their old 90s and 00s videos available, but they're the exceptions to the rule.
SStuff said: What's the Dark Knight quote? "Die a hero, or live long enough to become the villain."
I'm paraphrasing, but it's an all-too-common occurrence for former "heroes" of WAM to basically burn down their legacies as they exit. Messy Jessy was the most recent, but it happened with Fawn and Neil Edwards too, and both of them had longer careers and (possibly) larger bodies of work before they became persona non grata here.
Phoebe also made a couple returns here and kinda pissed some folks off, although she wasn't banned or anything. (Although her stuff is long gone now.) I think WAMTEC Mark basically divulging that she never enjoyed WAM and only did it on the insistence of her boyfriend (who also pretended to be her in most convos)..... probably did more damage to her legacy, although again, that was after she was long gone and her vids were unavailable.
Also, some people simply move on, and either pull down their stuff to close that chapter in their life.... or they just don't feel like maintaining a site. Or it's a tragedy like MessyFun, where most of those classic clips are gone forever. Kudos to folks like Mark and Lenny for keeping their old 90s and 00s videos available, but they're the exceptions to the rule.
I'm paraphrasing, but it's an all-too-common occurrence for former "heroes" of WAM to basically burn down their legacies as they exit. Messy Jessy was the most recent, but it happened with Fawn and Neil Edwards too, and both of them had longer careers and (possibly) larger bodies of work before they became persona non grata here.
Phoebe also made a couple returns here and kinda pissed some folks off, although she wasn't banned or anything. (Although her stuff is long gone now.) I think WAMTEC Mark basically divulging that she never enjoyed WAM and only did it on the insistence of her boyfriend (who also pretended to be her in most convos)..... probably did more damage to her legacy, although again, that was after she was long gone and her vids were unavailable.
Also, some people simply move on, and either pull down their stuff to close that chapter in their life.... or they just don't feel like maintaining a site. Or it's a tragedy like MessyFun, where most of those classic clips are gone forever. Kudos to folks like Mark and Lenny for keeping their old 90s and 00s videos available, but they're the exceptions to the rule.
Excellent post and totally agree.
Neil did 3 great customs for me, so I decided to do a 4th and got 3 great years of excuses. lol
SStuff said: ..... probably did more damage to her legacy, although again, that was after she was long gone and her vids were unavailable.
http://vidown.com/cgi/store2.pl?site=phoebevideos.com
Been in continuous operation since 2006
SStuff said: Or it's a tragedy like MessyFun, where most of those classic clips are gone forever.
It's not 100% of the MF archive, but most of them have been here for more than a decade:
http://vidown.com/cgi/store2.pl?site=classicwam.com
http://vidown.com/cgi/store2.pl?site=mfvideoonline.com
... just sayin'
Vonce111 said:
I've seen this repeated a few times now and I would just like to say that I had a slightly different experience when she made her return. She offered customs with one of my favorite models (Cree) and I jumped at the chance. After exchanging a couple of emails I made the order and sent her the money. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, Cree became unavailable. Fawn offered another model and when I declined she very promptly and apologetically returned my money. It was slightly disappointing but I didn't consider it a big deal at all. In the next movie that Fawn released she actually did some of the things that I requested in my custom. I thought that was an unnecessary but nice gesture.
So, I don't know the whole backstory of that brief return but I wanted to add my two cents to the public WAMF record.
I think she got very unreliable with customs, and was apparently quite rude to some customers...
I've seen this repeated a few times now and I would just like to say that I had a slightly different experience when she made her return. She offered customs with one of my favorite models (Cree) and I jumped at the chance. After exchanging a couple of emails I made the order and sent her the money. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, Cree became unavailable. Fawn offered another model and when I declined she very promptly and apologetically returned my money. It was slightly disappointing but I didn't consider it a big deal at all. In the next movie that Fawn released she actually did some of the things that I requested in my custom. I thought that was an unnecessary but nice gesture.
So, I don't know the whole backstory of that brief return but I wanted to add my two cents to the public WAMF record.
If your experience was positive, then fair enough. Fawn did happily produce customs for a while. I mean, I bought a few myself when she put them in her UMD store!
However, it's also fair comment to say that it unfortunately did then go wrong. I think it was quite sudden too. I don't have any inside knowledge on what happened, but in my comment I was just summarising what I remember other users saying at the time.
moreslime said: She's long gone again. I think she got very unreliable with customs, and was apparently quite rude to some customers, so disappeared in about 2014/15 and took all the films down.
Given the way she burnt her bridges, I doubt there'll be another comeback in the future so I'm afraid that's that for the WAMF back catalogue. A shame, as it was very good and had some great models. (Loli, in your YT clip, was a particularly good one.)
Randomly stumbling across some of them on YT is the best you'll do now.
Given the way she burnt her bridges, I doubt there'll be another comeback in the future so I'm afraid that's that for the WAMF back catalogue. A shame, as it was very good and had some great models. (Loli, in your YT clip, was a particularly good one.)
Randomly stumbling across some of them on YT is the best you'll do now.
Not quite my experience, but my first custom was with WAMF, and the experience was...interesting. It was with another model named Reagan, and it was in the same format as the YT video at top. I think what happened is that she took money from six different people, each for 1/6th of the shoot, and then tried to...average together all of the outfit requests. So while it was the right model and in the Slammy format, she looked nothing like what I was expecting. So, yeah. Mind you this was much earlier than the comeback, just before she left for the first time.
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