For those still caring, EEG finally did a pie game after a week of skipping it altogether. Good news: --Loooong game. --5 hits on 5 different women, all pretty solid, even if the cameraman refused to get a close-up of the best one. --The hot girl who hasn't participated in a month (smaller brunette, super cute) FINALLY got back in the rotation, and got well pied. She would've gotten it twice, but somehow she went up against a guy the second time, so you knew he HAD to lose.
Bad news: --The men DOMINATE the game... in terms of participants, screen time, and pies thrown. Whoever complained about "too much drama" from the women.... Well, you've got your wish. The women average MAYBE 5 seconds of aftermath on screen. The guys? More like a minute plus. Why was "drama" a bad thing again?!? --Women we have NEVER seen participate in weeks, like Angie, were suddenly holding pies! ......To throw at one idiot guy. Seriously. Dude got hit with like 10 of them (or basically twice the combined female total). --In addition to having 75% of the participants and 90% of the screen time, the men are also apparently the only gender that can "rematch" each other... and pie sandwich their opponent. Which means the flow of the game is basically.....
1) Two girls face off. Loser girl gets good hit. Loser girl walks off, quick aftermath. Maybe 45 seconds total. 2) Two guys face off. Loser guy gets pie sandwiched. He then spends a minute complaining (while still covered). Rematch. Other guy loses, ALSO gets pie sandwiched. More complaining. About 3 minutes. 3) Two more guys go up, same as #2. 4) Two more guys. Maybe this time loser guy doesn't rematch?? 5) Finally we're back to the girls, but by this time the guys have wasted 10+ minutes (and about 10 pies).
I mean, this is STILL the best (only?) mainstream pie game out there. (Until DL and EEG Panama start being consistent again.) And the girls that are still willing to participate (I count 6 total now that Hot Girl is back in the mix) are great on both giving AND getting. If the producers decided tomorrow that the focus should be back on "female drama," we'd be getting tons of material. BUT they've decided that the audience wants to see roided-up douchebags cover each others' heads in pie frosting over and over, and the females are (sadly) just a side attraction at best.
As always, this over-analysis is sponsored by Boredom before my next meeting.
Eventually this show always both slows down and shifts to the guys, we're getting both now but it's still producing a couple good hits now and then, it's just if you measure the action to the guys' end, the imbalance is frustrating.
EEG Panama also had a single pie game last week, one perfectly balanced, where nobody got pied very well. It was the setup where they tell jokes and bad jokes get hits -- which can often end up in total failure, as it did. You get a weak or overly chivalrous pie-giver and the "zany" wigs and paraphernalia like oversized glasses, and it almost always ends up in a bad scene.
HA! So after all my bitching, the show IMMEDIATELY changes course this week.... Guys vs. Girls! And just like that, the imbalance is over!
I don't want to "oversell" this particular game, only because EEG still finds time for ridiculous bullshit which I'll chalk up to Angie Is The Worst. (In a nutshell: Guy gets question right. Guy doesn't want to "upset" Angie so pies her on chin. Then judges say do it over, so he "accidentally" trips and pies her halfway decently. Angie freaks out and pies the guy back. And then.... Can't quite figure this out... The GUY is the one punished, not Angie... And gets 10 pies in a row from every single member of the female squad. You know... FUNNY!)
BUT... Ignoring that one moment of BS.... Best pie episode in over a month, easy. Women lost 9 to 3 and, aside from Angie (The Worst), the guys let them have it every time. My Hot Chick got especially nicely clobbered too. And the girls totally take it in stride... No crying or stupidity, just mock indignation and/or chasing the guy around in mock anger.
Hopefully this trend continues for a while. Can't expect the women to lose every time, but I still think this will result in much better pie games. If nothing else, the Domingo Legal idiots need to be taking notes...
Yeah..... Never fuck around with America TV Peru, apparently.
Here's the entire clip from the official channel. This is the one with 10 good-to-great hits to the women. Ignore the guy who "won" getting blasted with pies in the middle and it's solid. FYI, my Hot Chick is Luciana (I owe her that much) and she gets pretty destroyed off one hit at 10:35. Kudos to the dudes for not holding back. Pay attention DL!!
I am quite certain they are, in fact when that guy was being destroyed with 10 pies, despite winning the round, I'll bet they were taking notes.
Great overall, finally the scales of pie-justice even a little.
A couple viscous pieings there, Luciana you mentioned, Michelle was also murdered, although her wiping technique took away from the moment (which usually isn't the case with her, either). Funny how years back she was the biggest Diva of all, even surpassing curly-chick. My guess, their clout ebbs and flows and when they're hot shit, they can duck out like whats-her-face, but when they're just another (replaceable) girl, they throw themselves into their roles. Who fucking knows though and we're approaching Chega Mais levels of over-thinking on it. I'll just accept it's good again and enjoy it while it lasts.
wamtec said: As a knee pad fetishist this is fine, but I have to wonder why they protect their knees and not their faces.
Don't give 'em any ideas Mark! I mean, I know you're a fan of the "shower cap & goggles" look popularized by American "messy" gameshows from the 1960s on, but.........
This must be the once-per-year male blowout permitted under South American WAM Law in order to keep viewers believing that these games are not entirely fake.
In any case, it was very good.
Now if we could just get these women to wear dresses and heels ...
The best part of this show are the reactions of the women... the way they open their mouth, the way they put their arms up, the way they do with their hands, the facial expression when they're wiping the cream... it's simply superb!
Based on my limited Spanish vocabulary and the 5/22 episode just posted to YT, I think the women vs. men was a one off anniversary show and they have returned to the standard format for now.
Quite a few pies on EEG Panama today. Almost great but not quite there. Genesis took a couple good hits. Neka won her first round, lost her second. Instead of taking it gracefully, she fought with the guy and he ended up more pied than her, so they penalized her with another pie... it could have been epic, because they interviewed her for a good 30-seconds afterwards... and it was a good hit, but not up to the standards of destrucity that she's taken in the past.
Overall a nice change of pace and decent return to form for Panama EEG. No links as yet, of course, it only aired an hour back.
I find the posturing, the histrionics, and those silly little ******* dances that they do so utterly nauseating, it's almost not worth watching the pies. Especially from that "husky" one. Wounds my soul. Anyone else? May well just be me
zozotown said: I find the posturing, the histrionics, and those silly little ******* dances that they do so utterly nauseating, it's almost not worth watching the pies. Especially from that "husky" one. Wounds my soul. Anyone else? May well just be me
You should watch the current Conexao! No posturing, no histronics, no ****** dances, no nausea!
Also.... Two beyond shitty pieings over 2 months. But it's a fair tradeoff for unwounded soul, yes?
Am I alone in being okay (more than okay, tbh) with the "husky" one, Macarena Velez?
Looks-wise, she's got more going with the body than her face but something about how she takes the pies, stoically putting her hands on her hips, no weaseling or squirming, is just great. It, of course, lends itself to her getting pied greatly quite often.
I much prefer her than someone like an Angie, who is "prettier" (although past her prime), but is such a wimp about it.
And, I'll back Rich on the "drama" opinions. Drama and stupidity is as good as it gets here, folks. If they're going to be involved in the games, demanding "revenge" rounds, taking the pie hits - it will only come with obnoxious gloating, boring complaints, manufactured crying and the rest. I've grown indifferent to it and accept it as part of the package. If it really bothers you, just remind yourself they're (badly) acting.
Zoidberg's Evil Twin said: Sorry, Brazilians or Peruvians or whatever you are, you are NOT "building up" the sexual tension with all that annoying yakking. You are destroying it.
Crazy. It's almost as if these people are trying to be fun and funny, smashing pies only for the sake of slapstick comedy and not trying to cater to a random fetish community of worldwide maybe 20,000 mostly non-Brazilians.
Zoidberg's Evil Twin said: And in the clip you uploaded, SStuff, at the 6m53s timestamp, they just HAVE to FUCK it up, smushing the pie into her chin a little. And every fucking pie comes only after 15 minutes of debating. Sorry, Brazilians or Peruvians or whatever you are, you are NOT "building up" the sexual tension with all that annoying yakking. You are destroying it.
AH, if only someone had warned you about that specific moment in advance.... and even mentioned how stupid it was. Wait...
SStuff said: only because EEG still finds time for ridiculous bullshit which I'll chalk up to Angie Is The Worst. (In a nutshell: Guy gets question right. Guy doesn't want to "upset" Angie so pies her on chin....
As for debate: I mean, it's your call. EEG has all this "drama" before the pieing, and often afterwards. (Which is good with the women, as you see lots of aftermath, but I digress.) Yes, it's annoying, but that's what editing is for. They also let the pie game go for 30 minutes sometimes, with multiple rounds and multiple pies for the women.
PoR has no debating, but they waste SO much time on bullshit "chatting" at the podium before Celso asks a question. Then, post-pie, the towel guys can't wait to wipe the girl's face while the cameraman cuts away from the pied girl as quickly as humanly possible. Oh, and they can't seem to get through even 8 questions lately.
Neither setup is ideal, but at least EEG delivers the goods regularly to overlook the BS. With PoR, the BS basically *is* the game.
Yes, the guys get it worse, however, there are two revenge rounds for women and they barely wipe. I like this new no-wipe trend we've seen now with EEG Panama, last week's Passa Repassa and now this, twice.
It's not uploaded to youtube yet but wait for it, it's pretty good.
Enigmahood said: Lot of good pies on 5/29, yesterday.
Yes, the guys get it worse, however, there are two revenge rounds for women and they barely wipe. I like this new no-wipe trend we've seen now with EEG Panama, last week's Passa Repassa and now this, twice.
It's not uploaded to youtube yet but wait for it, it's pretty good.
I think a lot of the "trend" comes down to comfort level... With EEG the girls who are still doing the pies are totally fine with them now. No need to be overly prissy about it.
With PoR, the "good" episodes seem to be where the members of both teams are comfortable with each other. It makes for better hits, better atmosphere, and (usually) better mess.
Also, there's no great way to bring this up without sounding gross, BUT.... Just based on the PoRs I've seen, kids are a lot less concerned about their appearance (and wiping). The girl from last week's episode was only 18 on a cast of underage kids, so she's probably still in that mindset. When it's a team of female celebs/models/journalists, that mindset is GONE and they are wiping furiously between rounds to look near spotless by the time they're up again.
That out the way, you bring up good points, but I don't know. So many girls have taken wipe-free hits lately, it just seems like it came out of nowhere. EEG Panama had both Neka and the hostess do this, the hostess sitting there completely pied for 10+ minutes (and this is only the second time she's been pied that I'm aware of, not like she takes it all the time like some of the others).
While I'm sure "coincidence" is probably the most logical answer, part of me has seen patterns in the past, where these shows all seem to be derivative and copy the others (not as much Domingo Legal, but the Combate/Esto es Guerra clones). My conspiracy hope is that it happened as you stated organically enough and some producer took note and put the word out to keep doing it, to mix things up a little. I'm quite certain every emotion you see on any of these shows is completely manufactured, so them being told to act upset/angry and so much they "forget" to even bother wiping off? Well, who knows.
It happened twice in one show yesterday on EEG. Who the fuck knows, though. The way these shows operate, they hit an absolute peak high note (at least as far as we're concerned) and then everything dries up (at least as far as we're concerned) every episode then out for months.
"Human beings love to see patterns, and they will create them even when they don't exist." (Loving that LEGION show....)
I honestly don't know, but "specific post-pie reactions" seems an odd thing for shows to copy. Neka tends to wipe enough to see and leaves the rest, as she's done that before (which is why I love her). Also, those pies on EEG Panama are super-sticky which makes it unavoidable (which is why I wish they'd use them more).
Other EEG had two non-wipers who tend to leave it on anyway, so not super surprised. VERY impressed that Angie (the Worst) was basically clobbered and didn't wipe it at all. She's still a diva on a show that doesn't have many anymore, but kudos to her for having some of the best and longest post-pie coverage I've seen on EEG (following her once-a-month pieing ).
Solid pie game on EEG Panama just now. The new cute brunette got it badly, as did Neka in an unfair manner, she engaged in a pie fight after winning a round and ended up pied well herself. Lots of aftermath and... little wiping.
Avoid the 5/31 episode of EEG. Could be the first of many "Girls have a dance competition to do, so all guys in the messy powder and pie game" episodes
Seek out the 6/1 episode of Esto es Guerra (Peru).
Warning, the guys are obliterated and compared to them, the girls get off easy. They don't get off easy, though, when compared to the last 100 or so years of pie scenes, in that light, it's a massacre.
Karen takes a brutal hit as she often does (I wish she'd complain, she doesn't duck off or anything but so often she takes a hit and casually walks off, I'd love for her to run to the podium to whine with more aftermath). A couple revenge rounds which end up poorly for all involved, Michelle destroyed, etc.. lot of good solid mess.