How would you describe the humiliation of toilet humor?
When I created Possessed Toilet I was surprised at the nerve it struck in the fetish world. It's probably one of the weirdest most bizarre Masterpiepeice I've ever made.
For those who have had the unusual experience could y'all please explain what about this humiliation made it so good.
It doesn't seem super crazy to think it's Freudian sublimation.
FWIW, I do remember when I was really young, I had inappropriate fantasies related to fecal stuff. But also I remember that I was (and am) disgusted by those fantasies. So it would make sense if my brain hotwired itself to transfer those feelings to something more appropriate but still subversive, like pieing.
Still. I doubt everyone has the same development experiences. So. Grain of salt.
Nein said: It doesn't seem super crazy to think it's Freudian sublimation.
FWIW, I do remember when I was really young, I had inappropriate fantasies related to fecal stuff. But also I remember that I was (and am) disgusted by those fantasies. So it would make sense if my brain hotwired itself to transfer those feelings to something more appropriate but still subversive, like pieing.
Still. I doubt everyone has the same development experiences. So. Grain of salt.
I'd say this is quite right.
I can see why lavatoria might appeal to some. But it's a bit too literal for me. Toilets directly connote bodily fluids and these are a transgression from WAM so as to be undesirable and out of bounds. By this logic I would suggest toilets are out of bounds, barely on topic. Moot. But that's just me...
Nein said: It doesn't seem super crazy to think it's Freudian sublimation.
FWIW, I do remember when I was really young, I had inappropriate fantasies related to fecal stuff. But also I remember that I was (and am) disgusted by those fantasies. So it would make sense if my brain hotwired itself to transfer those feelings to something more appropriate but still subversive, like pieing.
Still. I doubt everyone has the same development experiences. So. Grain of salt.
That's an interesting take and makes sense. At it's base the two have a similarity in something "gross" or "messy" etc. So it's easy to see how both can be associated with humiliation. I got to agree with Trouso though that it diverges from WAM for me as one is about human waste, and the other about food, or more inert things like mud, gunge and the like.
However, some clearly don't make this divergence as there are a lot of people here that are also into poo and wee which are taboos here.
I was at Messtival when this was shown. Literally the hottest thing I've seen in ages!!
I love how creative and subversive it is. My fantasies include WAM and most toilet related stuff (plus occasionally some BDSM) and I've even thought recently about making vids with all of that! (I know they wouldn't be welcome on UMD, and I understand why. )
I think, for me, it's the overkill. It's humiliation heaped on top of humiliation. Not only gunged and pied but then swirlied too. We're taught that that stuff is disgusting and icky and the toilet should be avoided. It's humiliating to be put there in that place - and that's precisely what makes it so hot!!
In this vid it's the level of deviance too! Watching people who LOVE humiliation getting to play with it is AWESOME!!
I thought that part of the reason for ( poo and wee ) being taboo is because credit card companies would flag UMD. Most other sites too, it's for this reason those fetishes are banned.
Potatoman-J said:
Nein said: It doesn't seem super crazy to think it's Freudian sublimation.
FWIW, I do remember when I was really young, I had inappropriate fantasies related to fecal stuff. But also I remember that I was (and am) disgusted by those fantasies. So it would make sense if my brain hotwired itself to transfer those feelings to something more appropriate but still subversive, like pieing.
Still. I doubt everyone has the same development experiences. So. Grain of salt.
That's an interesting take and makes sense. At it's base the two have a similarity in something "gross" or "messy" etc. So it's easy to see how both can be associated with humiliation. I got to agree with Trouso though that it diverges from WAM for me as one is about human waste, and the other about food, or more inert things like mud, gunge and the like.
However, some clearly don't make this divergence as there are a lot of people here that are also into poo and wee which are taboos here.
naughtyjim said: I was at Messtival when this was shown. Literally the hottest thing I've seen in ages!!
I love how creative and subversive it is. My fantasies include WAM and most toilet related stuff (plus occasionally some BDSM) and I've even thought recently about making vids with all of that! (I know they wouldn't be welcome on UMD, and I understand why. )
I think, for me, it's the overkill. It's humiliation heaped on top of humiliation. Not only gunged and pied but then swirlied too. We're taught that that stuff is disgusting and icky and the toilet should be avoided. It's humiliating to be put there in that place - and that's precisely what makes it so hot!!
In this vid it's the level of deviance too! Watching people who LOVE humiliation getting to play with it is AWESOME!!
Alana SexyMessyBabes said: So far so good on YouTube I've been treading a fine line of not getting blocked there.
"Blocked" Ha! I see what you did there.
I gave up on YouTube. For four years nobody batted an eyelid. Never any sexual content - always link only, too. Then someone spotted me and that was it - arbitrary violation notices on almost everything within seconds. Use Vimeo now (although it won't embed here). Professional platform. You pay your subs and they leave you the f%*k alone!
Richard Trouso said: I can see why lavatoria might appeal to some. But it's a bit too literal for me. Toilets directly connote bodily fluids and these are a transgression from WAM so as to be undesirable and out of bounds. By this logic I would suggest toilets are out of bounds, barely on topic. Moot. But that's just me...
I must admit that's my reaction, I was acutely uncomfortable for the entire time this was shown at Messtival and found it really unpleasant, but I figured it would probably be one of those things that gets either a love or hate reaction. I associate toilets with the smells of body fluids, and particularly poo, and that is about the biggest turn-off I can imagine.