what are your most annoying things in porn en wam movies ?

My personal opinion:
at No. 1 for most of us i think :
women moaning hard from the beginning to the end of the film, as if they have a 1.5-hour orgasm, far from realistic

if I watch a porn movie I turn the sound off because of the moaning

at No. 2 for me
buying a wam dvd by the looks of the cover and the images of the box does not correspond to the movie ,or do not meet your expectations.

as an example:
i buy a wam dvd with a beautiful girl in a very beautiful dress on the cover .
i expected that at least a part of the movie is about girl getting messy in her dress.or having sex in her dress
instead the dress is comming off in the first minutes or her breasts hanging out like two bags of potato's (not meant to offend)
that's not something I like to see .
i like to see woman getting messy or having sex fully clothed and well dressed and then getting naked.

what do you think is the most annoying in a movie that turn you off , or what do you want to see in a movie to turn you on

Any kind of plot, script, or excessive talking. Even it it's a fantastic porn visually or a stunning mess I end up having to mute it. Nothing kills it for me than unnecessary dialog that is obviously part of an act. I just want some heavy breathing, light moaning, and a couple of intense vocalizations during an orgasm. Otherwise, keep your mouth shut.

Fake orgasms. They make me sad. Also that weird duck face "oooooooo" thing people do with their mouths. It makes me feel uncomfortable and I just turn it off lol

I highly agree however I do want to add that it is possible for women to have really long orgasms. At least for me if I'm having sex and using my vibrator at the same time I can have and orgasm for 10+ mins (basically till my partner cums or I fell like I'm gonna pass out). I don't think a lot of guys realize women can do that but in porn women don't want to cum that much because it's exhausting, especially if you're shooting a bunch of scenes in one day.

Bad acting overall ruins a video for me weather it's a really fake orgasm or the models can't follow a script. I like a story-line but it has to be done well.

Guys that use their cock like a hammer driving a spike into an oak post - bang, bang, bang - boring . A woman's vagina is not a bicycle pump.

When they clearly aren't into it! I know it's a job, but at least try!

If you know what your body likes it's not uncommon in us women to have long orgasms. Sometimes I catch myself masturbating for over and hour with about 4 5-15 minute orgasms. Also, if you have trained your inner clit you can orgasm on and off for varying degrees of time during penetration.

#1: 99.999% of all attempts at writing/performing plot & dialog. For whatever reason, the fake "job interview" is at the top of my list for immediately getting the video turned of, or at least muted.

A very close #2: Yep, the fake orgasm/screaming/shouting/moaning thing. Absolutely awful.

When it doesn't look like they're actually have fun. I don't want to live vicariously through somebody having a rotten time.

Yeah all my female friends (at least the ones who talk about sex with me) can have multiple orgasms or really prolonged orgasms. It's really easy when you know what you like, especially if you have a partner who knows you well. Personally I hate casual hookups because it's unlikely I'd be able to get off a lot with someone who doesn't know my body well.

I whole-heartedly agree with this one! Watching a woman getting fucked and pretending to enjoy it when she's clearly not is really uncomfortable viewing for me.

Apparently I have a lot to learn about orgasming... Maybe I should go practice...

maybe Producers should follow this thread , en use the info for future productions and movies ...... :ohbruther:

not ??
now i know why my bike has always flat tires ... i left my wife in the barn and sleep with the bicycle pump instead

Definitely agree. It's gotta be fun for them. Shy & unsure can be great, as long as it eventually becomes fun.

That sounds like a great idea! Can I watch?

(Maybe Maria can help you practice ..... )

Norman

Man, I'm reasonably sure I've never given a woman even a non-pretend orgasm, to say nothing of a ten-minute one.
(I pretty much assume they're faked to get me to go away.)

I've never understood why some women do this. Explain to a them how to get you off if you need to. Both of you will have more fun next time then. Train them like a dog. Smear peanut butter where they need to lick if you have to. But faking just leads to more mediocre sex because if they buy the fake one they will think they will give you another one doing the same thing.

I could never get into porn. I like a good wam scene, but all the fakeness in porn turns me off. For me the cum shots and fake orgasms are at the top of the list. Then are the guys that treat the women like they are objects, the fake power play shit. The guys aren't even that good looking. Some of the girls look great, but they are too fake. I want something real. The handyman, fake job interview, well anything in the Brazzers catalog. To me there does not need to be a guy there. I like seeing a woman that gets off. Too many times it is all about the guy getting off, the girl needs to get off too. Give me a good masturbation scene. The other shit that irritates me is the fake lesbian stuff. That is something I like about a lot of the stuff on this site. The women are real women that enjoy the fetish. Yes I know there are models that are paid to do a job, but for the most part they appear to enjoy it.

Bad camera angles. I can't figure out for the life of me why some videographers need to get so close. Take a deep breath and a step back, and get the entirety of the actor/actress in the frame pretty much at all times. Then let the viewer decide what to focus on as it's being watched. Otherwise, you're literally wasting perfectly good footage.

Haha I call this "dead eye" porn. The spark just isn't there. It's depressing to watch.

thats a good term

So true. Especially when the close up is at that angle where you mostly see a guys ass or balls. I don't know about gay men but I have never meet a woman or a straight man who is really into seeing a guys testicles.

Also I don't understand why so many amateur movies are shaky. You can zoom in and out on your camera, you don't have to awkwardly walk back and forth to get different shots.

I honestly have this problem so much. My camera man doesn't even move too much, but due to this being his main fetish and all if he isn't careful he can get a bit distracted. Plus he's more of a photographer than a film maker. This is why I need a second stationary camera to fall back on at all times.

that is a point .i like to see cake sitting with pants if they are nice en beautyful satin pants or nylon shorts and other type of clothes that fits my fetish
just a matter of taste.

it's hard to please everyone, but there are plenty of things that we all agree to needs to be banned from movies.

Agree with this, descriptions and promos should always be accurate. Overselling a movie by talking up aspects that aren't really there just means the customers will not trust that producer's descriptions, and probably not buy any more of their scenes. Accuracy and honesty all the way is the only way.


^^^THIS!!! Plus mud scenes entirely shot from the bank, or any scene filmed in such as way that you can't actually see the "point of contact" between the model's outfit or skin, and the gunge or mud. I once bought a scene based on a promo shot of a model in a really nice dress. Unfortunately the actual scene had the girl go into a gully, filmed zoomed right in from miles away to the side - so you knew what was happening as the front of her dress was pressed down and slid over the mud at the bottom of the gully, but all you could see was her clean hair bobbing along just visible above the side bank, all the contact points were completely hidden and out of view. The camera operator should have been down in the mud where the gully exited shooting up towards the model as she lay her front down. It's a real shame when a great model has her efforts ruined by idiotic filming.

I think I turned the air round the Hall several interesting shades of blue that night, as usual I forgot the windows were open till after I'd spent five minutes screaming abuse at the screen.


This is one of those cases where it's completely impossible to please everyone - I'd find a wam video that was just face / head closeups about as erotically stimulating as watching an empty tumble dryer going round(1), I want to see the girls' legs getting messy, and couldn't care less(2) if there is face coverage or not.

Of course what all of this really comes down to is accurate and detailed descriptions and promo shots that accurately reflect what is in the video. Being honest and up front with customers is the only way to do long term business.


You know we can now do bullet point lists on the forum (I asked MM to turn it back on a while back). (ul) to start a list, (li) at the start of each item, (/ul) to end it, but all with angle brackets where I've put ( and ).

• My girls miss the days when we had music playing (and me directing every action live in real time) and then wiped the soundtracks before selling the scenes (as the sound was 90% me giving instructions), the girls say it's much harder to remember exactly what order to do things in now we have to keep the sound in. But customers have said they want to hear the sounds, which also means no music as we're filming as that'd be copyright infringement.
  
  
• Agreed, a 6 minute scene should be one video, not two!
  
  
• Do you mean pants in the US usage as in trousers or UK usage as underpants / panties? Either way, the point is fully clothed WAM - watching someone in beautifully clean clothes just lowering themselves onto a big messy gateaux, laced with syrup and custard, or into a deep tray of coloured gunge, and then thinking how that must feel as all the wet gloopyness soaks through the fabric - hell yeah!

(1) Someone somewhere will now pop up and say they have a fetish for watching empty tumble dryers going round. I didn't mean that line as a put-down to them, but it definitely would not work for me.

(2) Yes, "couldn't care less", not the commonly typed "could care less" which actually means the opposite of how it's usually used. (/pet-peve)

Don't be silly, everyone knows it has to be a washer-drier to really get the juices flowing....

- Fake moaning, orgasms, and such. It's like watching a train wreck.

- People who don't want to be there. I enjoy seeing people genuinely enjoy or get off from getting messy. Unless it's a humiliation-type video or something.

- Excessive commentary from men who are filming. That just sort of takes me out of it; it's the audio equivalent of focusing on the guy's junk.

1 The complete lack of body paint content.

2 The complete and utter lack of male or gay content both in the Wam and Body Paint categories !

See for me, I love dirty talk. A lack of it is what gets to me the most.

I find the naughtiness of the act the most erotic part.

So, ruining expensive clothing mainly or beloved clothing.

If the person is (for example) getting messy in a wedding dress, I want them to be annoyed about it.

Really annoyed. Commenting on its cost and how much they like it and "not the silk" etc.

Satin and silk and leather and fur do it for me.

Mainly in jackets, coats, dresses and shoes.

There needs to be more of that for me.

It's like: you're ruining clothing women would die to protect and would be annoyed greatly if any speck of dust hurt it. ACT LIKE IT. Don't be happy ruining a wedding dress or a satin gown or expensive sneakers etc.



Fake orgasms annoy me, when they build it up and then they do nothing. Now the video's over. Great. Now what?

The lack of scenarios annoys me as well.

It's not often you find a scenario where a person is being WAMmed against their will.

Or has to protest.

Also, using other people's stuff is just not done, not on a real level, but as a scenario where what is being ruined is someone else's.


Also just moaning orgasms annoy me.

Unless you've used dirty talk all the way through, keep it going. The more you say the more turned on you are as you orgasm, makes it more pleasurable IMO.

Hate camera angles that don't show where the action is.

Hate people using a language they're not familiar with as well. If you can't speak it, don't use it. On Sindrive all you hear is "it's an expensive dress" when actually they're pants, or a jacket or something. Spell out verbally in explicit detail what is happening for me, you can't do that if you're not using the right language.

Hate, hate, hate bad descriptions. Clips4Sale falls into this one.

Great description, lacklustre video.

Mention if it has music or dialogue, so I'm not buying it and then finding out later.

Include quotes if it has dialogue. If necessary at least start a basic form of dirty talk rating, so if it's 5 stars I know it's almost every second or if it's 1 I know not to bother.

Explain what happened. All the way through.

Obviously, don't include hot surprises, but explain the plot of the video.

If she cums on her jacket say so, if she doesn't, don't include "cums using her jacket" because it means something different to me. Good language and grammar is important.

Hate when they start of well and then don't continue.

FetishMistressUK:

Dirty talk about how expensive the fur coat is (very expensive) then doesn't elaborate.

Repetative stuff as well:

Using dildos all the time, or (in Love of Fur's case) fur mitts.

You have other things, use them.


Those are it really for me.

Porn is getting less hot.

Someone needs to fire it up more.

One small issue I have, and it is really small, is when a wam video/photo shoot proclaims to contain leather clothing, (something I am a fan of) and it turns out to be pleather, (fake leather), which, although it looks good, doesn't appeal to me as much as the real thing. Real leather reacts entirely different when wet that imitation leather. As far as I am concerned, if you are going to use imitation leather, you might as well make something from a black bin bag, it will react just the same in water as pleather. The bottom line of this is, if you are going to use imitation leather clothing, call it that in the description, ( I know some producers do, but not all), and at least make the model keep it on for the majority of the video. I have purchased too many videos with these faults, and it gets a tad irritating.