I have a scene dropping soon where there's enough time enjoying the mud in a non-explicit way, I'm thinking of making an alternative (albeit shorter) edit for those who don't want to mix mess with mayhem.
UMD draws the line of explicit at masturbating or penetration or both. I have a buttplug in that is flashed here and there in this scene, but since it's already there and not being inserted, it would still be softcore.
For those who want only softcore mud scenes, where do YOU draw the line? I want to make an edit those who don't like the hardcore stuff can enjoy.
Please only answer if you ONLY like softcore scenes. I know a lot of you are perverts already.
I'm in no rush to finish this edit, so I'm keeping the poll open for 1 week to try and get a better sample size and feedback. Thanks.
Also, the scene was shot last summer, so any requests will not influence the outfit or the video, only how I choose to cut or zoom in on parts of it.
Maybe go in steps? How about starting vanilla clothed.. then in the next video move to stripped and naked full dildo fun? So 2 videos.. everybody wins?
wam_guevara said: Maybe go in steps? How about starting vanilla clothed.. then in the next video move to stripped and naked full dildo fun? So 2 videos.. everybody wins?
This particular scene I keep the dress on for the dildo fun as you put it. I like the seduction and the slow build with sensual moments intertwined with the clothed fun as I let myself succumb to it, which is why I want to keep it in one piece for the hardcore version as the build-up is important to me.
>The softcore cut will be pretty clearly labeled as an alternative version of the main scene so people don't accidentally get the same scene twice, plus the hardcore version will be releasing sooner than later.
I'm mostly curious about how people feel about:
>flashes of nudity (tits, ass or pussy). Maybe ass is fine, but pussy and tits are not. Can't gurantee cutting it all out 100%, but if it becomes overwhelmingly clear softcore fans don't want to see anything, I'll play with editing it more.
>a flash of my buttplug in a non-masturbatory context.
>a dildo off to the side not being interacted with, but in the frame.
>Zooming in to cut out more sexual action to imply it, but cutting out anything that's overt or moany. Eg: extreme zoom on my face where one could guess what my hand is doing, and then transitioning to a different part of the scene without getting the masturbation soundtrack or lingering on it. Or would people prefer that not be in there at all?
wam_guevara said: Maybe go in steps? How about starting vanilla clothed.. then in the next video move to stripped and naked full dildo fun? So 2 videos.. everybody wins?
Assuming that people who enjoy the hardcore stuff (like yours truly) would have to purchase two separate scenes, waiting a certain length of time for the second part to drop, I'm not sure everybody wins in this scenario. I don't know how many of the perverts could survive knowing there's a hardcore portion of the same scene they have to wait for.
I'm fine with overall nudity and obvious pleasure such as writhing in the mud, etc. For some reason though, obvious self-touching of the pussy or close-up shots are a turn off for me. I need to believe the mess itself is enough and the model is completely turned on by it, and possibly orgasms in it. But any dildos or hands seem like 'wam cheating' if that makes any sense at all. Holy shit, are we humans ever complex! I never really thought about my own specifics much, but now that I've written it down I can see how unique each of us are as wam-wired people.
Bobographer said: For some reason though, obvious self-touching of the pussy or close-up shots are a turn off for me.
Are you just referring to close-ups on the pussy and/or tits and ass or just any close up anywhere in general?
Sadly, the hands and/or penetration-free orgasm alludes me save the occasional wet dream I have no control over lol. The sensations of mess are a big turn on though. Humans are really diverse in how they get off.
wam_guevara said: Maybe go in steps? How about starting vanilla clothed.. then in the next video move to stripped and naked full dildo fun? So 2 videos.. everybody wins?
This particular scene I keep the dress on for the dildo fun as you put it. I like the seduction and the slow build with sensual moments intertwined with the clothed fun as I let myself succumb to it, which is why I want to keep it in one piece for the hardcore version as the build-up is important to me.
>The softcore cut will be pretty clearly labeled as an alternative version of the main scene so people don't accidentally get the same scene twice, plus the hardcore version will be releasing sooner than later.
I'm mostly curious about how people feel about:
>flashes of nudity (tits, ass or pussy). Maybe ass is fine, but pussy and tits are not. Can't gurantee cutting it all out 100%, but if it becomes overwhelmingly clear softcore fans don't want to see anything, I'll play with editing it more.
>a flash of my buttplug in a non-masturbatory context.
>a dildo off to the side not being interacted with, but in the frame.
>Zooming in to cut out more sexual action to imply it, but cutting out anything that's overt or moany. Eg: extreme zoom on my face where one could guess what my hand is doing, and then transitioning to a different part of the scene without getting the masturbation soundtrack or lingering on it. Or would people prefer that not be in there at all?
We all have build very specific taste buds on what we wank too
What I ment by splitting scene is a long version that is complete for those who are enjoying the full service. But maybe a slower clothed start where you take time to play in the mud clothed. I don't think a nipple slip or the view of a dildo on standby hurts that part of the scene.
I think that part needs to be of decent lenght for the clothed more vanilla fans. We each have our own idea of the perfect scene length.. my preference is somewhere around 8min of fooling around clothed getting totally covered.. out of a 18-20min full scene that includes the happy ending
Your stuff is great! Thanks for reaching out like this looking forward to many more scenes
We all have build very specific taste buds on what we wank too
I've noticed and don't expect to please everyone by a long shot!
wam_guevara said: I think that part needs to be of decent lenght for the clothed more vanilla fans. We each have our own idea of the perfect scene length.. my preference is somewhere around 8min of fooling around clothed getting totally covered.. out of a 18-20min full scene that includes the happy ending
Even if I get the shears out on this even more, there should be more than 8 minutes from completely clean to completely trashed, so hopefully it still feels like a full scene despite everything not included. Already thinking of having a second go at my draft edit of the 'pg13' version.
muddy_clothes said: I vote for more content=better. Love seeing what a natural you are in the mud.
Don't worry, the full, uncut version will be released pretty soon. This is just for an alternative edit idea I had for those who don't really want to see me sucking and fucking my toy.
Bobographer said: For some reason though, obvious self-touching of the pussy or close-up shots are a turn off for me.
Are you just referring to close-ups on the pussy and/or tits and ass or just any close up anywhere in general?
Sadly, the hands and/or penetration-free orgasm alludes me save the occasional wet dream I have no control over lol. The sensations of mess are a big turn on though. Humans are really diverse in how they get off.
I guess my dislike is for obvious close-ups of the pussy for the sheer sexploitation effect. If a video were to show a woman in mud and running her hands over herself it would be a turn on. Part of that could include touching the pussy or boobs too. My problem is when the attention just sits on any one sexual area and doesn't really move again. So a muddy hand playing with a muddy pussy for several minutes would not interest me, but having that hand slide over the body and pause at the pussy (or boobs) for a few moments at a time would be fine.
I think it's because for me, wam in an all-over thing, a sensation of touching everywhere, not just a few square inches. Of course I know we have a few square inches that get very turned on, but I don't choose to focus on them, but to include them in the whole experience. What annoys me is the video of the model getting covered head to toe and loving it, but the camera operator is fixated with a close-up of her pussy, and we don't see anything else. I do realize that some people only want to see that, but I prefer to see the mess all over, and hopefully the model is enjoying the sensation all over as well.
Thanks everyone for the feedback so far. The hardcore version of this is out, but this poll is open for the rest of today. I've been finding the poll results really interesting and helpful. Thank you.