Hello all. Hope you're all doing ok.

Just a simple question for models and producers. How much do you truly enjoy wam?

Most moves the models are clearly having fun. Some enjoying the textures. What we don't see is all the messages to and from organising the shop, the travel and the dreaded clean up. Then the editing and uploading of course.

Does all what happens before and after the shoot make it less fun? Especially knowing the messier it is, the more clean up there will be.

Would love to read some responses

I am not a professional photographer. So I am not that experienced with models but years ago I have hired some. I was somehow disappointed when I have put exactly that question: "Did you have fun?"
The basic answer was yes it was fun, BUT ... When I questioned a bit deeper, the reply was more like: It was not that bad, the good thing, I ad not to do nude shots, and for good money I am doing any job.

The pre and post work is hard like you mentioned. It gets easier the more you do it and develop shortcuts, but the amount of physical work and financial investment that needs to go into setting up and tearing down a shoot will always suck.

And yet, none of that matters once everyone's present and ready to shoot. Then it's legit some of the most fun I've ever had. And not to speak for the women I shoot, but I'd say most if not all of them had a blast as well. They may not all like "WAM" the way forum members do or to the extent that video consumers might want them to. But if you do your due diligence and find people who match what you want to shoot, you're going to have a lot of people who can find the fun in getting slimy for a few hours.

Sometimes you gotta work for your play.

I'm doing ok, thanks.
(Wow, I actually do feel ok for once! Not where ai want to be in life, but still. Oops sorry!)

I'm not sure if this reply is designed for what you meant in your initial comment, but I will try to answer how i intended to initially.

As a longtime lurker on here, I have seen similar posts and posts from different producers and models. Assuming it it the actual people posting, my personal theory is that the ones doing the postings are the ones having fun and ultimately more prone to orgasm to this stuff simply because they show more interest via their posting. The models that don't join the community likely know about it and choose not to join simply because they don't "enjoy" it like actual WaMers do. I am sure there are exceptions, but that is my theory based on "data" acquired over several years on this site.

I hope that helps, and I'm sorry if what I think offends anyone who do not fall within the parameters.

Unfortunately the truth is rather different. I know female models, including actual wam fetishists, who prefer to shoot for male producers and largely avoid any forum type situations rather than do things on their own, because any woman who does do her own thing gets endless harassment, boundary pushing, demands for free content, guys who don't understand that model=/=girlfriend, etc, etc. Shooting for a producer means a nice solid firewall between the model and the rampant tides of misoginy they'd otherwise have to face. The women who do post here have basically decided it's worth all the grief, either because appearing in person results in more sales, or they've thick enough skin to just slough off all the bullshit. A lot will depend on whether WAM is a 24/7 business, or just a side-hustle, because wading through all the garbage is a bit like wading through deep mud, takes time and energy, but a lot less pleasant than actual mud.

Something one of my regulars, who is genuinely into getting messy themselves, once said: Shooting at the dungeon is not just fun for getting messy, but a social event. Working other model(s), chatting between scenes, swapping information, helping each other dress up for the next scene, and then all getting taken out for hot food afterwards - it's a whole package and makes for a nice day. Shooting on their own was a very different and far less enjoyable experience, especially with guys ignoring boundaries and constantly pushing for more sexy, more explicit, way beyond what the model was comfortable with.

There are basically four types of models:
1. Those with an actual WAM fetish. Rare but not as rare as you might think, I've known several over the years.
2. Those who don't get anything sexual out of it but really enjoy the fun aspect, the silliness, or how it feels as they get covered in gloop, or the fun of covering someone else in gloop and getting to inflict it - you don't have to be into it as a fetish to still enjoy getting to pour soup into another woman's clothes and see her squirm as it flows inside, especially when you know she'll do the same right back to you before long.
3. Those who are only in it for the money, but willing to make a good go of it. Nothing wrong with that and often hard to tell the difference from type 2, except they may only do a few scenes before deciding it's too much work.
4. Those who are only in it for the money and really don't like it. You can usually tell from facial expressions and reactions. Some people like such videos, it fits the humiliation side of the fetish, but doesn't work for those of us who want to see someone enjoying what's happening to them.

I see. While I was still partially correct I recognize what you are saying as fact; there are a lot of real wammers that can't stand the sad toxicity that can come from these sights. It's a real shame; we do loose a lot of fun members that way.

Anyway, I apologize if my comment came too far out of left field.

And you can subdivide them between those who got into it through a partner or friend and loved it and those who it's really, genuinely, organically their kink. Both make for fantastic models but there is something wonderful about seeing people getting to live out their actual kink with an actual budget! That squeal of pure joy.


There are a couple of very uncomfortable vids I own where the model is not having fun at all and the producer does not stop and even captions the video with his thoughts. Icky,