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"nudity versus nudity"
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You read that right. I find that there are usually two extremes when nudity is present in a wam video.
1. Either the model begins clothed, and eventually strips to nude, or may start out nude, but it's all very natural with no attention paid to any particular part of the body.
2. The model has her legs spread wide, maybe even tied apart, and may be playing with a sex toy, or just her hands. Perhaps another person is there to help her to get off. There may even be nipple clamps or other features emphasizing sexual parts of the body.
So these are the two extremes I am talking about. We all have our preferences and there is nothing wrong with any of them, but when a video says it 'contains nudity' it could mean either extreme.
I love to see a nude woman walking cautiously into some mud, only to discover it is deeper than she anticipated, or perhaps she's laying on a bed or sofa and some messy substance falls on her, or pies appear from off-camera to land on her. In many such videos, the model will touch herself and feel the slipperiness or gooeyness of whatever the substance may be, but usually avoids the crotch area. Even the camera operator is not fixated with T and A, but captures the entire woman in the frame as she enjoys the sensation. Sometimes the crotch is shown, but never as a close-up or with emphasis on it. The focus is on a nude body, not nude 'bits'.
On the other hand, we get the 'crotch in your face' shots, and some like to see private parts coated with honey, chocolate, or whatever and with the model playing with herself in order to cum.
To me, one is straight wam, while the other is a mix of porn and wam. Again, I'm not saying either is right or wrong, but only that they are very different from one another. Both have become acceptable forms of visuals that fall under the wam title.
Thoughts?
1. Either the model begins clothed, and eventually strips to nude, or may start out nude, but it's all very natural with no attention paid to any particular part of the body.
2. The model has her legs spread wide, maybe even tied apart, and may be playing with a sex toy, or just her hands. Perhaps another person is there to help her to get off. There may even be nipple clamps or other features emphasizing sexual parts of the body.
So these are the two extremes I am talking about. We all have our preferences and there is nothing wrong with any of them, but when a video says it 'contains nudity' it could mean either extreme.
I love to see a nude woman walking cautiously into some mud, only to discover it is deeper than she anticipated, or perhaps she's laying on a bed or sofa and some messy substance falls on her, or pies appear from off-camera to land on her. In many such videos, the model will touch herself and feel the slipperiness or gooeyness of whatever the substance may be, but usually avoids the crotch area. Even the camera operator is not fixated with T and A, but captures the entire woman in the frame as she enjoys the sensation. Sometimes the crotch is shown, but never as a close-up or with emphasis on it. The focus is on a nude body, not nude 'bits'.
On the other hand, we get the 'crotch in your face' shots, and some like to see private parts coated with honey, chocolate, or whatever and with the model playing with herself in order to cum.
To me, one is straight wam, while the other is a mix of porn and wam. Again, I'm not saying either is right or wrong, but only that they are very different from one another. Both have become acceptable forms of visuals that fall under the wam title.
Thoughts?
As I just posted in another thread, I almost exclusively only purchase scenes with some kind of nudity. It doesn't necessarily have to be sexual but there has to be at least topless nudity and preferably the woman should look like she's at least enjoying the experience and having fun even if she's not explicitly getting herself off (I don't really like some of the more extreme humiliation aspects of WAM and I struggle to understand people that do, but I try not to judge).
I'm not sure we need to put them in two separate categories though if that's what you're suggesting, because a lot of people with have different definitions of porn. A naked girl sat in a gunge tank and getting slimed but sitting with her legs crossed or firmly shut together at all times and not touching herself would obviously fall under your first category but to a lot of people 'naked woman' would mean porn. To me and, it seems, you that would be pretty tame though.
I'm not sure we need to put them in two separate categories though if that's what you're suggesting, because a lot of people with have different definitions of porn. A naked girl sat in a gunge tank and getting slimed but sitting with her legs crossed or firmly shut together at all times and not touching herself would obviously fall under your first category but to a lot of people 'naked woman' would mean porn. To me and, it seems, you that would be pretty tame though.
fatmup said:
I'm not sure we need to put them in two separate categories though if that's what you're suggesting . . .
I'm not sure we need to put them in two separate categories though if that's what you're suggesting . . .
Certainly not wishing to separate the categories, just an observation about the different aspects of getting naked in mess that we see here. I guess I could have also said sensuous versus sexual, as the tame version may and should include plenty of self-touching, stroking, etc. but not centred about sex. Running a messy hand over a thigh, up over the crotch, up the stomach, over a breast (or both) and maybe winding up at the face, can also be a huge turn-on. Going straight for the goods is sometimes too much too soon and too obvious. I've bought scenes that have sensuous play and it leads to the full-on porn style ending, which I certainly don't mind.
I just wanted to get a discussion going, as there seems to be a distinct difference between either 'style' of messy nudity.
It's not nudity to me unless i can see her pussy clearly.
Like i should be able to point out the different parts to med students. Clit, labia,, main pussy hole, g-spot, ect.
Scenes labeled nude where we barely see the models pussy are so frustrating. Like i see nude and get all excited and then get a scene where she is technically naked but they filmed from sideways or something.
Like i should be able to point out the different parts to med students. Clit, labia,, main pussy hole, g-spot, ect.
Scenes labeled nude where we barely see the models pussy are so frustrating. Like i see nude and get all excited and then get a scene where she is technically naked but they filmed from sideways or something.
I apologize for nothing
scroggle said:
Like i should be able to point out the different parts to med students. . . g-spot . . .
Like i should be able to point out the different parts to med students. . . g-spot . . .
You actually found it?
Bobographer2 said: You read that right. I find that there are usually two extremes when nudity is present in a wam video.
1. Either the model begins clothed, and eventually strips to nude, or may start out nude, but it's all very natural with no attention paid to any particular part of the body.
2. The model has her legs spread wide, maybe even tied apart, and may be playing with a sex toy, or just her hands. Perhaps another person is there to help her to get off. There may even be nipple clamps or other features emphasizing sexual parts of the body.
So these are the two extremes I am talking about. We all have our preferences and there is nothing wrong with any of them, but when a video says it 'contains nudity' it could mean either extreme.
I love to see a nude woman walking cautiously into some mud, only to discover it is deeper than she anticipated, or perhaps she's laying on a bed or sofa and some messy substance falls on her, or pies appear from off-camera to land on her. In many such videos, the model will touch herself and feel the slipperiness or gooeyness of whatever the substance may be, but usually avoids the crotch area. Even the camera operator is not fixated with T and A, but captures the entire woman in the frame as she enjoys the sensation. Sometimes the crotch is shown, but never as a close-up or with emphasis on it. The focus is on a nude body, not nude 'bits'.
On the other hand, we get the 'crotch in your face' shots, and some like to see private parts coated with honey, chocolate, or whatever and with the model playing with herself in order to cum.
To me, one is straight wam, while the other is a mix of porn and wam. Again, I'm not saying either is right or wrong, but only that they are very different from one another. Both have become acceptable forms of visuals that fall under the wam title.
Thoughts?
1. Either the model begins clothed, and eventually strips to nude, or may start out nude, but it's all very natural with no attention paid to any particular part of the body.
2. The model has her legs spread wide, maybe even tied apart, and may be playing with a sex toy, or just her hands. Perhaps another person is there to help her to get off. There may even be nipple clamps or other features emphasizing sexual parts of the body.
So these are the two extremes I am talking about. We all have our preferences and there is nothing wrong with any of them, but when a video says it 'contains nudity' it could mean either extreme.
I love to see a nude woman walking cautiously into some mud, only to discover it is deeper than she anticipated, or perhaps she's laying on a bed or sofa and some messy substance falls on her, or pies appear from off-camera to land on her. In many such videos, the model will touch herself and feel the slipperiness or gooeyness of whatever the substance may be, but usually avoids the crotch area. Even the camera operator is not fixated with T and A, but captures the entire woman in the frame as she enjoys the sensation. Sometimes the crotch is shown, but never as a close-up or with emphasis on it. The focus is on a nude body, not nude 'bits'.
On the other hand, we get the 'crotch in your face' shots, and some like to see private parts coated with honey, chocolate, or whatever and with the model playing with herself in order to cum.
To me, one is straight wam, while the other is a mix of porn and wam. Again, I'm not saying either is right or wrong, but only that they are very different from one another. Both have become acceptable forms of visuals that fall under the wam title.
Thoughts?
Nudity can be beautiful or obliteration can occur depending on the version being shown to you. I'm more interested in how nudity is used to get someone to show you what their learning about themselves. The process of creating something so personal yet so revealing
Paint with play and surrender
Personally I like to see girls enjoying WAM the way I like to enjoy it myself.
This means a strong emphasis on physical sensation and the pleasure of feeling gooey or sticky mess on bare skin, particularly in the sex areas. Thus, I like to see a girl fully nude, being covered in goop, and generally smooshing as much of it as possible into her pussy, and working herself to orgasm.
Naturally to this end, cake sitting is ideal (of course, must be naked) as it immediately pushes her ass and pussy straight into a large amount of soft edible mess. She can then masturbate with the cake. This also lends itself to the fact I have a little bit of a crush fetish too.
Usually the final torrent of goo right over the head comes shortly before orgasm as the final encasement in mess.
Call it "a mix of porn and wam", but to me it's just wam, as for me this fetish by it's nature is overtly sexual and involves doing sex acts whilst getting messy. I realise this is my own individual niche and not shared by everyone, but that's personally how I like to see "nudity".
This means a strong emphasis on physical sensation and the pleasure of feeling gooey or sticky mess on bare skin, particularly in the sex areas. Thus, I like to see a girl fully nude, being covered in goop, and generally smooshing as much of it as possible into her pussy, and working herself to orgasm.
Naturally to this end, cake sitting is ideal (of course, must be naked) as it immediately pushes her ass and pussy straight into a large amount of soft edible mess. She can then masturbate with the cake. This also lends itself to the fact I have a little bit of a crush fetish too.
Usually the final torrent of goo right over the head comes shortly before orgasm as the final encasement in mess.
Call it "a mix of porn and wam", but to me it's just wam, as for me this fetish by it's nature is overtly sexual and involves doing sex acts whilst getting messy. I realise this is my own individual niche and not shared by everyone, but that's personally how I like to see "nudity".
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