I have been talking to other UMD Members that prefer to see Women Pieing Men rather than Men Pieing Women. The definition of WAM is Wet And Messy but it doesn't define who is messing up who. Male Wam came along but it is mostly Gay which is not appealing to Males who are Straight. I'm sure Gay Males don't find Women Pieing Men appealing on a Male Wam forum as well. I don't hate Gay or Lesbian people in fact I admire their strength for being who they are in a world that for the most part doesn't accept their lifestyle so this message is not intended to be hateful or offensive and if it does offend anyone than I am truly sorry it was not my intension to do so. I am looking for positive input as for a name for our new forum which I am going to ask the site owner if he will put up for us. We are a tiny minority on the UMD site but I think there is enough of us to converse with and post pictures an links. We would appreciate your ideas on a new forum for us.
I understand what you mean pie slave, There are different niches within the community and representing them seems like a good idea. My man is also with you on this. Names...I would love to see some crazy long acronym for it to further confuse people. MBPBNFWAM or something
If not covered in frosting, are you really living?
I understand what your saying about wanting a certain demographic, but as a gay man I’d be the first to say that there seems to be just as much straight-oriented material on this forum as gay. Which is fine, I don’t expect the forum to cater to us, but it’s certainly far from being as “gay” as you claim.
No matter where you go on the web, you have to wade though some things you don't want in order to find things you do. I see no reason why this place should be any different - if you don't like what you see, close the thread and move to the next. It's not difficult or even that time consuming.
I'm really grateful you've opened this discussion and in the context you did. I think it could be a great thing to do and if I'm understanding correctly you're looking for a place to have more so for women getting men messy or wet rather than necessarily designate male wam to the gay community because of course it isn't... but just to have a place to allow for a gentle separation of just men versus women getting men... makes sense to me. Women's Payback? Since you're looking for names Seems a lot of the women pieing men content is revenge based. Thanks again for opening this up. -Whip Stay Messy!!!
I understand what your saying about wanting a certain demographic, but as a gay man I’d be the first to say that there seems to be just as much straight-oriented material on this forum as gay. Which is fine, I don’t expect the forum to cater to us, but it’s certainly far from being as “gay” as you claim.
I don't see much straight-oriented material on this forum at all ...when you go up and down the first page of it almost all the posts are gay-oriented.... Its not really about being gay or straight its about women messing up men which is what we prefer.. its frustrating to go thru 30 posts to find 1 post that you will want to read .... If I try to search for something on the internet and I come up with 30 webpages that have nothing to do with what I am looking for then I need to refine my search ... A long time ago before there was a Male WAM Forum. Gay WAM and Straight WAM were in the same forum together and then there was a Male WAM Forum which made a separation of the two groups which no one complained about and Gay males moved to this forum ... All we are asking for is our own place on this site so that we can post messages and pictures of what we like .... I don't think its to much to ask for?
I think it's a great idea Pie Slave, but then I would, wouldn't I?:devil: I like calling it "Female To Male WAM" (sounds a bit like a electrical plug though), maybe or "Girls Messing Guys" Maybe we should start a poll? ANYTHING, just as long as we get to see more hot girls doing THIS to us...
webcamplayer said: No matter where you go on the web, you have to wade though some things you don't want in order to find things you do. I see no reason why this place should be any different - if you don't like what you see, close the thread and move to the next. It's not difficult or even that time consuming.
Most of the posts are Gay-oriented .... It is very time consuming to find what we are looking for on this forum ... I don't see any females messing up gay males all i see is males messing up males which is gay wam... So this forum really doesn't apply to our orientation by the majority of examples that we see.. I don't think it is unfair to have our own forum for our orientation of WAM. When I do a search on the web for something I am looking for and most of the sites I have found have nothing to do with it then I know I need to refine my search.
Thanks for your post piesub and the awesome pics you posted :lovestruck: .... I am still thinking or a name to present to the site owner ... Something that means wet and messy ............ I got it !!!!! Female-Male WAM !!!! (Female - Male Wet And Messy) so there is a female in the picture and the male is wet or messy...... That's it !!!! :readit:
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Laylamoorexo said: I understand what you mean pie slave, There are different niches within the community and representing them seems like a good idea. My man is also with you on this. Names...I would love to see some crazy long acronym for it to further confuse people. MBPBNFWAM or something
You guys look like really nice people and make a cute couple.... I saw some of the pics on your profile and it looks like you have a lot of fun together ...I wish you guys all the best and thank you for your post and support for us... God Bless you guys
And I just had to waste my time to sift through this forum, it's part of the game. At least there is a place for us to be who we are. There is too much division in this world as it is. I am sorry, this entire thread reads very hateful towards the gay community. I don't care how much you say otherwise. Thanks for the kind words, but since it bothers you SO much to sift through posts (which I have to do everyday and don't complain about one bit) that you have to start a forum about how you don't like the gay material, it comes off with disgust. So while I appreciate your input to the site and your ideas, please just keep it moving. Better yet, start your own site so you can share and enjoy the material you like so much since you want everything to be so divided.
Most of the posts are Gay-oriented .... It is very time consuming to find what we are looking for on this forum ... I don't see any females messing up gay males all i see is males messing up males which is gay wam... So this forum really doesn't apply to our orientation by the majority of examples that we see.. I don't think it is unfair to have our own forum for our orientation of WAM. When I do a search on the web for something I am looking for and most of the sites I have found have nothing to do with it then I know I need to refine my search.
How terrible it must be to be a straight man having to wade through all the stuff that doesn't apply to them. As a gay man, I can't possibly know what that feels like, as I go into a book store and try to find the two books with gay characters in them. Or when I go into a DVD store and find the five gay-themed films. No, we don't have to wade through all the straight stuff at all every single day of our lives - for the last two thousand years. You heterosexuals must have it so hard in life.
I'm a straight male but totally confused by your thoughts. You say "The definition of WAM is Wet And Messy but it doesn't define who is messing up who" unfortunately every body has a different view wet lovers don't want to see messy . and the so called straight guys think that getting messy as a guy is gay . Well I'm a straight guy and my FETISH is getting wet and messy and has been from the age of 14 . The early days of UMD to post a male pic had to have the words (Warning Male Wam) attached to the forum heading not to offend those straight guys that were after a perv at messy chicks . The thought of seeing a messy guy would turn them gay or they were discussed in what they saw. So Male forum was formed . What confusers me is what part of women pieing men turns you on , and why isn't it male wam . When a women is pied by a man its all about the woman getting pied , so isn't a man being pied by a woman all about the man getting pied . which is Male wam
It's a very interesting discussion and we should all give ourselves a pat on the back for doing it in a very adult way. I have to say I steered away from UMD until recently as I always felt it was female WAM site.
Having thought about it, I think I agree with you aussiemud. Male WAM is a male getting messy, whether that is a single male, a male messing up another male or a woman messing up a male. I don't think I'd want the forum split but maybe we can do something like have some pre-defined tags (M, M2M, F2M) which people can use and thus allow people to filter as they see fit.
Pie Slave said: Thanks for your post piesub and the awesome pics you posted :lovestruck: .... I am still thinking or a name to present to the site owner ... Something that means wet and messy ............ I got it !!!!! Female-Male WAM !!!! (Female - Male Wet And Messy) so there is a female in the picture and the male is wet or messy...... That's it !!!! :readit:
Will stuff from Nadia valentine be allowed? She is transgender so technically a male sort of:?: She gets pied by hot girls and so surely she/he'd be fine right? I know you're a fan too Pie Slave
Pie Slave said: Thanks for your post piesub and the awesome pics you posted :lovestruck: .... I am still thinking or a name to present to the site owner ... Something that means wet and messy ............ I got it !!!!! Female-Male WAM !!!! (Female - Male Wet And Messy) so there is a female in the picture and the male is wet or messy...... That's it !!!! :readit:
Will stuff from Nadia valentine be allowed? She is transgender so technically a male sort of:?: She gets pied by hot girls and so surely she/he'd be fine right? I know you're a fan too Pie Slave
I am so tired I just worked 7 days straight and I really don't sleep at night but I want to respond to some of the posts that were made but I don't know if I can right now .... Of course Nadia is welcome I love her/his videos and pics... everyone is welcome I really don't understand why people are so angry with me.. I have no bad feelings or intensions towards anyone so I'll try and respond .............
Pie Slave said: I have been talking to other UMD Members that prefer to see Women Pieing Men rather than Men Pieing Women. The definition of WAM is Wet And Messy but it doesn't define who is messing up who. Male Wam came along but it is mostly Gay which is not appealing to Males who are Straight.
Thank You for your time. Pie Slave
I'm a straight male but totally confused by your thoughts. You say "The definition of WAM is Wet And Messy but it doesn't define who is messing up who" unfortunately every body has a different view wet lovers don't want to see messy . and the so called straight guys think that getting messy as a guy is gay . Well I'm a straight guy and my FETISH is getting wet and messy and has been from the age of 14 . The early days of UMD to post a male pic had to have the words (Warning Male Wam) attached to the forum heading not to offend those straight guys that were after a perv at messy chicks . The thought of seeing a messy guy would turn them gay or they were discussed in what they saw. So Male forum was formed . What confusers me is what part of women pieing men turns you on , and why isn't it male wam . When a women is pied by a man its all about the woman getting pied , so isn't a man being pied by a woman all about the man getting pied . which is Male wam
OK I'll try to make this quick since I'm really tired ......Yes everyone has a different view of WAM .... wetlook has their own forum and can make their own posts .... I also like wetlook ..... No getting messy as a guy is not gay but the posts are gay oriented and there is nothing wrong with being gay its just kind of a turn off for us when we want to see women pieing men and its not about seeing the man covered in pie but the fact that it was done by a woman and her expressions and how she is having fun doing it... We love and worship women ....I don't like to see women getting pied so I don't really like the regular Wam but its a good place to get pictures of women holding pies and they do have some Female-Male wam .. That's true about the warning male Wam thing... I thought it was wrong of them to do that.. it made it like a cigarette warning label as if you would get cancer or something if you looked at the pic ....that was bad.... But now you have your own forum
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helloboi1134 said: Um I personally like the forum the way it is. The only problem with it is that people don't label what they're doing very well but I'm probably just as guilty.
I love anglewams handful of male messy at a chicks hand stuff, but there's hardy any of it. I'm not sure how much forum you're going to get out of three or so producers. Is there even a single forum post this year of a messy guy and girl fucking?
I've always enjoyed getting messy. My preference for male is because I like to imagine being messy, and im a guy. Also the chick stuff is generally models which doesn't really turn me on as much as watching a wammer who does it for fun.
Yes it should have been labeled from the beinging so I wouldn't have to go through 30 gay posts to find the one post that I do wanna see and be already turned off at that pointed