Hey, gang.

I know I don't post on here often (I like to pick my spots), but I was looking for some advice from current producers.

I've set up a studio in my house and I have some models that are willing to help me out over the next week. We'll be using pies, slime, other substances, and I will be providing videos for you all to purchase when I get them edited.

I guess I was looking for advice from producers on pay for the models, advice on editing, costs of videos, etc. My fiancee is stuck in another city due to her deadbeat ex-husband being a complete ass over custody of her child, so I wanted to sell these videos to help fund the wedding she's always wanted and deserved, along with a honeymoon.

I know this takes time to make some money, but any little bit helps. I'd also be up for doing customs for you fine folks out there.

Thanks for all of your help, gang. Much appreciated!

Hi

Models get like $100-250 a scene depending on if its Walt Disney or Deep Throat.

I give someone else the duty to edit so except for manhours there is no cost. However a professional editor gets like $200-250 per hour.

Add it up and you must sell hundreds of video scenes just to get even. took me 10 years to just get even

Friendly advice
LEnny

Lenny,

Thank you! I have my own editing software, so I do it myself. I've already had materials stocked up, so I hope to make some money from customs and just putting out a lot of material early. Thanks, I definitely appreciate the early tips!

Lenny's production are more high-end and elaborate than most, so, those estimates imo are way high-end and unwarranted if one is going for an amateur to 'semi-pro' look (which means less these days as even amateurs have access to high quality cameras, cheap editing programs, and know about good lighting and shooting habits).

Wam models (newbies) may be paid as "little" as 50 - 60.00/hr and up (which is actually decent money for amateur and semi-experienced models who mostly do 'trade for prints' [TFP] shoots). Paying more than 100.00/hour is excessive unless the model is somehow greatly desired, must be nude (or has to perform sex, which would be more costly). Nudity might be worth 100.00/hr or slightly more, but not more than 150.00 per hour (and that is exorbitant, just for nudity). There are plenty of amateur models who would jump at a chance to work (have some messy fun) fro 60.00 - 100.00 an hour (even ending up semi nude).

If you are prepared and well organized (no time wasting on the set), you should be able to pull off enough material fro 2 or 3 downloads with 4 - 6 hours of shooting (depending on number of models, scenes, changes, etc.). Always remember that good lighting is KEY, along with more than one camera angle, good props, and attractive models. A funny concept or clever gimmick can help too.

Editing: a good/decent editor should be able to fulfill your editing needs for 30.00/hr (250.00 rate is for high-end TV production; the difference gained in quality of editing, beyond a minimum standard, is not really noticeable, or necessary). Basic assembly editing of video from a two camera shoot, with music and/or some audio editing, plus graphics is all that is needed...figure on 2-3 hours of editing time (no more) per minute or so of footage...if you want the footage formatted (compressed/coded) for downloads too, that may be slightly more...

Assuming that you have you own hosting site (and pay those expenses), editing cost of a ten minute video should come in around 600.00 or less -- that's IF you hire someone else (like a college grad with media production skills looking for work) and send them your footage to edit. but, I am always present when my videos are edited, so I know how much time (and money) it should be taking/costing me, and I can direct the editor on what to do (choice of shots, cuts, camera angle changes, music, dialogue, etc.). If you are sending your raw footage to someone else to edit (by themselves) you are taking a chance that hours will not be wasted and that the finished product will look the way you want it to. If you have to send your footage to someone else (where you can't see what they are doing) it's best to negotiate a price for the project (say, one ten minute video) in advance.

...but you can also do simple editing yourself with some very cheap software (like iMovie, if using a Mac) OR using a cheap or free 'cloud' editing platform like stupefilx.com or onetruemedia.com (this option may not be ideal if you are concerned about privacy and keeping your files, temporarily, on someone else's server -- but you can delete all these from the site afterwards -- remember to keep you copies on your hard drive). To use cloud editing platforms, you'll need to be able to upload your footage from your computer or external drive (most current cameras allow quick/easy transfer to one's computer, then upload to the cloud editing platform). Some cheap cloud editors only permit basic editing, but with a cheap upgrade (a monthly membership fee) you get more functionality, although still limited as these are designed for casual video makers, not pros.

Once you get the system (i.e., your production method) down pat, it should be relatively smooth sailing in terms of production. I don't want to misstate things; there are often unexpected challenges and things will take longer the first time out of the gate. Good luck.

Very sound advice in all the posts above.

I'd add:

1. Shoot what you personally love. That way you'll put your heart into making sure it's the best it can possibly be.

2. Look at other producers work in the styles / sub-fetishes you're interested in, and then try to improve on them. We all have our own unique takes on the fetish, try and bring your own personal angles to the material you produce.

3. Lighting, lighting, lighting, and more lighting. This is actually more important than a good camera, though that is No2 on the list after lighting.

4. Expect it to take a long time to break even. There are much faster and easier ways to make money than WAM videos.

5a. However long you allow for cleanup, it will always take longer. Usually, much longer!

6. Be aware of all the tax implications, and how your route to market affects that. This will vary depending on where you're based.

Having said all that, good luck! It's an amazing feeling when other people actually pay money for stuff you've created, there really is nothing like it, and as someone who's been doing it ten years now, getting to direct and produce WAM videos has to be one of the best jobs on Earth.