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"New Epic Pie Scene!"
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If you guys haven't seen this yet I highly recommend it. Really good price too!
http://www.valentinenetwork.com/come-crying-to-me/
http://www.valentinenetwork.com/come-crying-to-me/
The thing about VN is that they seem to have it all and yet disappoint.
They have beautiful women, great settings, costumes, lots of pies, and pretty good plot set-ups. Then somehow they drop the ball at the goal line by having one girl sit/stand there and get pied over and over. The end. So it is basically a "white chair" pie scene dressed up.
The one with the maid walking around and getting pied in every room by a pie ghost or whatever.... THAT was better. There was a plot, the location was used because she walked around, her humiliation increased as it went on. It was a "story".
Granted, they have since changed their MO to be more raunchy and I haven't seen any of those. I like my pie vids like Rich does, more PG-13.
They have beautiful women, great settings, costumes, lots of pies, and pretty good plot set-ups. Then somehow they drop the ball at the goal line by having one girl sit/stand there and get pied over and over. The end. So it is basically a "white chair" pie scene dressed up.
The one with the maid walking around and getting pied in every room by a pie ghost or whatever.... THAT was better. There was a plot, the location was used because she walked around, her humiliation increased as it went on. It was a "story".
Granted, they have since changed their MO to be more raunchy and I haven't seen any of those. I like my pie vids like Rich does, more PG-13.
Bozo1 said: The thing about VN is that they seem to have it all and yet disappoint.
They have beautiful women, great settings, costumes, lots of pies, and pretty good plot set-ups. Then somehow they drop the ball at the goal line by having one girl sit/stand there and get pied over and over. The end. So it is basically a "white chair" pie scene dressed up.
The one with the maid walking around and getting pied in every room by a pie ghost or whatever.... THAT was better. There was a plot, the location was used because she walked around, her humiliation increased as it went on. It was a "story".
Granted, they have since changed their MO to be more raunchy and I haven't seen any of those. I like my pie vids like Rich does, more PG-13.
They have beautiful women, great settings, costumes, lots of pies, and pretty good plot set-ups. Then somehow they drop the ball at the goal line by having one girl sit/stand there and get pied over and over. The end. So it is basically a "white chair" pie scene dressed up.
The one with the maid walking around and getting pied in every room by a pie ghost or whatever.... THAT was better. There was a plot, the location was used because she walked around, her humiliation increased as it went on. It was a "story".
Granted, they have since changed their MO to be more raunchy and I haven't seen any of those. I like my pie vids like Rich does, more PG-13.
Agree with most of this, although some of their scenes are very good (like the ghost one, both of them!). But yeah, this isn't my personal favorite direction.
Then again, it feels like the community is mostly rejecting PG WAM lately, so maybe don't listen to Bozo and myself!
SStuff said:
Agree with most of this, although some of their scenes are very good (like the ghost one, both of them!). But yeah, this isn't my personal favorite direction.
Then again, it feels like the community is mostly rejecting PG WAM lately, so maybe don't listen to Bozo and myself!
Bozo1 said: The thing about VN is that they seem to have it all and yet disappoint.
They have beautiful women, great settings, costumes, lots of pies, and pretty good plot set-ups. Then somehow they drop the ball at the goal line by having one girl sit/stand there and get pied over and over. The end. So it is basically a "white chair" pie scene dressed up.
The one with the maid walking around and getting pied in every room by a pie ghost or whatever.... THAT was better. There was a plot, the location was used because she walked around, her humiliation increased as it went on. It was a "story".
Granted, they have since changed their MO to be more raunchy and I haven't seen any of those. I like my pie vids like Rich does, more PG-13.
They have beautiful women, great settings, costumes, lots of pies, and pretty good plot set-ups. Then somehow they drop the ball at the goal line by having one girl sit/stand there and get pied over and over. The end. So it is basically a "white chair" pie scene dressed up.
The one with the maid walking around and getting pied in every room by a pie ghost or whatever.... THAT was better. There was a plot, the location was used because she walked around, her humiliation increased as it went on. It was a "story".
Granted, they have since changed their MO to be more raunchy and I haven't seen any of those. I like my pie vids like Rich does, more PG-13.
Agree with most of this, although some of their scenes are very good (like the ghost one, both of them!). But yeah, this isn't my personal favorite direction.
Then again, it feels like the community is mostly rejecting PG WAM lately, so maybe don't listen to Bozo and myself!
Absolutely agree Rich...
O don't like nude and even less, sex... But the model in nice undies is a must for me though!! But they are there to humiliate her, not for the sexy thing...
My two cents? VN has some of the hottest models and the best pies, bit the delivery can be hit or miss (pun intended). I think that with a bit more directing and a little creativity with the face hits (ie not just a pie pushed into a girls face over and over, maybe a face down pie, assisted self pie, or a pie sandwich) wpuld go a long way.
Nadia, if you are reading this, i can help! Lol
Nadia, if you are reading this, i can help! Lol
Pretty much every WAM producer puts down the plastic and then all the action takes place on that plastic for obvious reasons. VN seems to be willing to forgo all that and allow their girls to walk around the sets, as in the maid/pie ghost videos.
OK then.......... THAT is what pie videos need that we don't usually get - more movement. For example, if you have 3 girls, have one be a pie throwing villain, one be a damsel and one be a superhero. Have chase scenes, action scenes, rescue scenes, etc.
Blue Leopard did that, but he didn't last long unfortunately.
Of course, the argument against this is that producers don't want to clean up pie mess in 5 different rooms or set up 5 different tarps. BUT there are lots of times the girl gets pied and stays on her face. She could get pied on a tarp in Room A and then run around the house post-pie. Any that would fall off her face would be minimal.
In sum, as long as VN is willing to do scenes like the maid/pie ghost ones, they should do more and they could be the BEST.
OK then.......... THAT is what pie videos need that we don't usually get - more movement. For example, if you have 3 girls, have one be a pie throwing villain, one be a damsel and one be a superhero. Have chase scenes, action scenes, rescue scenes, etc.
Blue Leopard did that, but he didn't last long unfortunately.
Of course, the argument against this is that producers don't want to clean up pie mess in 5 different rooms or set up 5 different tarps. BUT there are lots of times the girl gets pied and stays on her face. She could get pied on a tarp in Room A and then run around the house post-pie. Any that would fall off her face would be minimal.
In sum, as long as VN is willing to do scenes like the maid/pie ghost ones, they should do more and they could be the BEST.
The first time you do a pie scene is the first time you're aware of just how MESSY one single pie is.
I mean, for my first scene, I didn't use a backdrop, because why? The pie's just gonna stay on the model's face or in her lap! By Pie #3, the air conditioning ducts were COMPLETELY clogged with pie. So, never again......
I do agree that it's a thrill to watch VN shoot the scenes where the model walks around the house (like the ghost ones).... And part of that actually takes me out of the scene, like when the model is getting thrown pies in the kitchen, and the thrower's aim is bad, so they basically cover the sink/counter/windows as much as the model. The producer in me is just shaking my head, going, "That's gonna take SOOOO long to clean up....."
Bottom line: I'll be happy to wreck someone ELSE'S house if anyone is volunteering. But wrecking my own house just for the sake of not having plastic show up in the wide shots? Yeah, sorry... The current sales don't come remotely close to justifying that.
I mean, for my first scene, I didn't use a backdrop, because why? The pie's just gonna stay on the model's face or in her lap! By Pie #3, the air conditioning ducts were COMPLETELY clogged with pie. So, never again......
I do agree that it's a thrill to watch VN shoot the scenes where the model walks around the house (like the ghost ones).... And part of that actually takes me out of the scene, like when the model is getting thrown pies in the kitchen, and the thrower's aim is bad, so they basically cover the sink/counter/windows as much as the model. The producer in me is just shaking my head, going, "That's gonna take SOOOO long to clean up....."
Bottom line: I'll be happy to wreck someone ELSE'S house if anyone is volunteering. But wrecking my own house just for the sake of not having plastic show up in the wide shots? Yeah, sorry... The current sales don't come remotely close to justifying that.
