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"Name a Hollywood D-lister..............."
What about girls that used to be famous for 5 minutes? For example, some hottie that that was in one movie in the early 90's and that is all her career amounted to. She had one scene with Mr. Famous Actor and was never heard of again.
Any of the teens in the Friday the 13th movies would be a good example.
Any of the teens in the Friday the 13th movies would be a good example.
Mark made the point very well, I thought. And unlike him and Lenny, I won't even drop $10K on a celeb! I honestly can list on one hand (with fingers left over) the number of models that have cost me $1000 or more for a shoot.... And honestly, some of my best models were far from the most expensive ones.
After a while, you do get a sense of who will actually do a good job vs. who's just doing it for the money. And throwing a LOT of money at someone will sometimes obscure that fact. If you had 100 grand to blow, could you hire a lot of these D-list celebrities? Maybe. Would they be any better than an unknown model who's super cute and enthusiastic and does it for 1/20th of the cost? Probably not.
And forget about making your money back. This market is small and niche and having a "celebrity" probably won't make random people track down a fetish site to drop $15 on a pie video! (Hell, it probably won't make the vast majority of wetlook or mud-only fans buy the video either!)
I guess you could lower the definition of "celebrity" too, but what's the point? Like Bozo mentioning the girls from the Friday the 13th movies... Well, that was 30 years ago, so most of them are coming up on (or going past) 50. The ones that stayed in the business probably have a ton of plastic surgery--and rich husbands--and wouldn't be worth the money even if they agreed to it. The ones who stopped acting at age 25 are probably suburban housewives who, again, would probably never agree to it... And if they did, what's the point? Will you get more turned on seeing a 50-year-old housewife getting slimed if you knew she was once killed by Jason in Friday The 13th Part 4?
Not trying to be cynical or pessimistic here... It's a fun topic to throw names around, but from a practical standpoint it's a dead end.
After a while, you do get a sense of who will actually do a good job vs. who's just doing it for the money. And throwing a LOT of money at someone will sometimes obscure that fact. If you had 100 grand to blow, could you hire a lot of these D-list celebrities? Maybe. Would they be any better than an unknown model who's super cute and enthusiastic and does it for 1/20th of the cost? Probably not.
And forget about making your money back. This market is small and niche and having a "celebrity" probably won't make random people track down a fetish site to drop $15 on a pie video! (Hell, it probably won't make the vast majority of wetlook or mud-only fans buy the video either!)
I guess you could lower the definition of "celebrity" too, but what's the point? Like Bozo mentioning the girls from the Friday the 13th movies... Well, that was 30 years ago, so most of them are coming up on (or going past) 50. The ones that stayed in the business probably have a ton of plastic surgery--and rich husbands--and wouldn't be worth the money even if they agreed to it. The ones who stopped acting at age 25 are probably suburban housewives who, again, would probably never agree to it... And if they did, what's the point? Will you get more turned on seeing a 50-year-old housewife getting slimed if you knew she was once killed by Jason in Friday The 13th Part 4?
Not trying to be cynical or pessimistic here... It's a fun topic to throw names around, but from a practical standpoint it's a dead end.
As Rich said...no chance of recovering your expenses if you spend big bucks to hire a well known name in the movie or tv industry. The only way to catch em is if you are lucky enough to shoot a model or actress on the way up in their careers...i.e. before they get famous, not to hire them after they already had their 15 minutes of fame and are on the way down in their careers, cos by that time they already have an entourage of rich boyfriends and press agents.
I already had one major missed opportunity back in 1999 that I am still kicking myself for not shooting her....i.e. in 1999 my business partner was shooting some scenes with a model I never heard of, and he never heard of her either. She was amazing looking and agreed to do some topless video shoots for him in his pool, and so he did some topless shoots with her out in California. I was in Florida and was not interested in flying our to LA to shoot a girl I had never heard of, so I passed on that offer, so my business partner shot her on his own, and she worked for him all day for a mere $300.
A year later, this model gets spotted by Playboy Magazine and ends up being a Playmate of the month, and later becomes Playmate of the Year in 2001, and then she gets signed up by Gregg Bonan and his production company to star in the new Baywatch Hawaii series....and she becomes famous after that. Her name was Brande Roderick.....and to think...in 1999 I could have hired her for $300 but I turned her down cos I did not know her name until she got discovered later by Hugh Hefner. So, 1 year later you could not hire her for $100,000 cos she was under contract by Playboy and Baywatch productions. My partner still has all the topless video footage he shot of her, but sadly I never took the opportunity to shoot some wam scenes with her.
Thats life
MK
I already had one major missed opportunity back in 1999 that I am still kicking myself for not shooting her....i.e. in 1999 my business partner was shooting some scenes with a model I never heard of, and he never heard of her either. She was amazing looking and agreed to do some topless video shoots for him in his pool, and so he did some topless shoots with her out in California. I was in Florida and was not interested in flying our to LA to shoot a girl I had never heard of, so I passed on that offer, so my business partner shot her on his own, and she worked for him all day for a mere $300.
A year later, this model gets spotted by Playboy Magazine and ends up being a Playmate of the month, and later becomes Playmate of the Year in 2001, and then she gets signed up by Gregg Bonan and his production company to star in the new Baywatch Hawaii series....and she becomes famous after that. Her name was Brande Roderick.....and to think...in 1999 I could have hired her for $300 but I turned her down cos I did not know her name until she got discovered later by Hugh Hefner. So, 1 year later you could not hire her for $100,000 cos she was under contract by Playboy and Baywatch productions. My partner still has all the topless video footage he shot of her, but sadly I never took the opportunity to shoot some wam scenes with her.
Thats life
MK
Do unto others, then run
wamtec said: As Rich said...no chance of recovering your expenses if you spend big bucks to hire a well known name in the movie or tv industry. The only way to catch em is if you are lucky enough to shoot a model or actress on the way up in their careers...i.e. before they get famous, not to hire them after they already had their 15 minutes of fame and are on the way down in their careers, cos by that time they already have an entourage of rich boyfriends and press agents.
I already had one major missed opportunity back in 1999 that I am still kicking myself for not shooting her....i.e. in 1999 my business partner was shooting some scenes with a model I never heard of, and he never heard of her either. She was amazing looking and agreed to do some topless video shoots for him in his pool, and so he did some topless shoots with her out in California. I was in Florida and was not interested in flying our to LA to shoot a girl I had never heard of, so I passed on that offer, so my business partner shot her on his own, and she worked for him all day for a mere $300.
A year later, this model gets spotted by Playboy Magazine and ends up being a Playmate of the month, and later becomes Playmate of the Year in 2001, and then she gets signed up by Gregg Bonan and his production company to star in the new Baywatch Hawaii series....and she becomes famous after that. Her name was Brande Roderick.....and to think...in 1999 I could have hired her for $300 but I turned her down cos I did not know her name until she got discovered later by Hugh Hefner. So, 1 year later you could not hire her for $100,000 cos she was under contract by Playboy and Baywatch productions. My partner still has all the topless video footage he shot of her, but sadly I never took the opportunity to shoot some wam scenes with her.
Thats life
MK
I already had one major missed opportunity back in 1999 that I am still kicking myself for not shooting her....i.e. in 1999 my business partner was shooting some scenes with a model I never heard of, and he never heard of her either. She was amazing looking and agreed to do some topless video shoots for him in his pool, and so he did some topless shoots with her out in California. I was in Florida and was not interested in flying our to LA to shoot a girl I had never heard of, so I passed on that offer, so my business partner shot her on his own, and she worked for him all day for a mere $300.
A year later, this model gets spotted by Playboy Magazine and ends up being a Playmate of the month, and later becomes Playmate of the Year in 2001, and then she gets signed up by Gregg Bonan and his production company to star in the new Baywatch Hawaii series....and she becomes famous after that. Her name was Brande Roderick.....and to think...in 1999 I could have hired her for $300 but I turned her down cos I did not know her name until she got discovered later by Hugh Hefner. So, 1 year later you could not hire her for $100,000 cos she was under contract by Playboy and Baywatch productions. My partner still has all the topless video footage he shot of her, but sadly I never took the opportunity to shoot some wam scenes with her.
Thats life
MK
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Was away from my computer this weekend. I have been trying to hire a ral tv/movie actress for years Mk has given you some of the stories in this thread and they are all true. The ones I came closest to get were Carole Davis Linda Blair and Sybil Danning.
Like Rich said it is not feasible to hire these women. They really want a fortune I said to Seka when I hire her I wish I knew you in the 1980's and she said you couldn't afford me then. She was making 50K per film back then and was a porn actress not a hollywood one
I tried to get Aria Giovanni years ago but she turned me down, Tried getting Tacie Lords (who has been pied), Toyna Harding and even Octomom
But alas all have said no or never responded. So my quest for the Holy Grail continues
I would love to get Tawny Kittain
I am in anytime with you MK
Lenny
Was away from my computer this weekend. I have been trying to hire a ral tv/movie actress for years Mk has given you some of the stories in this thread and they are all true. The ones I came closest to get were Carole Davis Linda Blair and Sybil Danning.
Like Rich said it is not feasible to hire these women. They really want a fortune I said to Seka when I hire her I wish I knew you in the 1980's and she said you couldn't afford me then. She was making 50K per film back then and was a porn actress not a hollywood one
I tried to get Aria Giovanni years ago but she turned me down, Tried getting Tacie Lords (who has been pied), Toyna Harding and even Octomom
But alas all have said no or never responded. So my quest for the Holy Grail continues
I would love to get Tawny Kittain
I am in anytime with you MK
Lenny
Dana Plato who played Kimberly on Different Strokes, would have been a good choice to appear in a pie video. After Different Strokes ended, her career went in the toilet and she fell on hard times. She even went so far as to rob/ hold up a video store for like less than $20 if my memory is correct. She could have been had for cheap. No telling what she would have agreed to do for $300. Too bad she left this life...way too young.
Lenny....count me in whenever we can find a "name" of somebody that we all know and people will not say "who !!". But the dynamics have drastically changed these days...i.e. in the pre-youtube era of 10 years ago it was feasible to invest 10-20 grand into a video project and be able to recover expenses, but the situation these days is that any budget of over $1000 becomes very hard to recover costs. Ironically, the best way to cover costs with celebs today would be to set up a charity site where you raise funds for charity by doing pie skits similar to this ice bucket challenge craze, cos celebs are quite willing to do wet or messy stunts for charity.
I remember when we tried to get Tonya Harding....that was in the days when she still looked OK and before she turned into a walking refrigerator. At the height of her infamy she had turned down million dollar offers from Larry Flint of Hustler and Hugh Hefner offered her big bucks....she should have taken their money, cos today nobody would offer her big bucks the way she looks now. As for Octomom....ha ha...yuk....I think you would have to pay ME the big bucks just to film her....and besides....she would not work for the money we offer cos she makes more than that by doing nothing and just claiming all the welfare payments she gets for her brood.
I think the recent poster who said....whats the big deal about celebrities....sums it up why we are not able to hire them....cos not enough wam fans are interested in buying wam clips made with celebrities so there is no way to recover expenses in hiring them.
MK
I remember when we tried to get Tonya Harding....that was in the days when she still looked OK and before she turned into a walking refrigerator. At the height of her infamy she had turned down million dollar offers from Larry Flint of Hustler and Hugh Hefner offered her big bucks....she should have taken their money, cos today nobody would offer her big bucks the way she looks now. As for Octomom....ha ha...yuk....I think you would have to pay ME the big bucks just to film her....and besides....she would not work for the money we offer cos she makes more than that by doing nothing and just claiming all the welfare payments she gets for her brood.
I think the recent poster who said....whats the big deal about celebrities....sums it up why we are not able to hire them....cos not enough wam fans are interested in buying wam clips made with celebrities so there is no way to recover expenses in hiring them.
MK
Do unto others, then run
wamtec said: not enough wam fans are interested in buying wam clips made with celebrities so there is no way to recover expenses in hiring them.
MK
MK
Unless it's Elizabeth Banks! I've heard that she's been pied before!
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