A few months ago, I started using AI to creating videos of virtually pieing beautiful women. Even famous women. Actresses, singers, athletes.

I took it further:
Women on the internet. Splat.
Women from my past. Splat.

All in need is a picture. And I, by my standards, became pretty good at it. Hundreds of videos.

But now, it has saturated my love of pied women simply from too much exposure. I haven't posted any of them here.

I think I need to take a break and recharge my WAM-loving batteries.

Anyone ever experience anything similar?

No. I used it once, hated how it looked and realized that the real thing is 10000x better, even if it is rare

With all respect... fuck AI.

I've also been playing around with AI WAM, since a little before Christmas.

I still have an interesting in using it, but I do think I'm 'spoiling' myself a bit, saturating my appetite for it. Though trying to get it to make something that makes sense seems to add to the desire to keep using it. Though, I'm getting a bit suspicious now of my own appeal for using it.

This rings huge alarm bells about consent in my head.

I find it a good rule of thumb that whenever you feel like you need a break from something, you're long overdue to take that break. Not just AI or WAM, but most things.

Whether it takes you a day, a year, or never to recharge your batteries, enjoy your life and don't feel compelled to return to a hobby you don't like.

Sadly AI dorks don't care for consent.

I'm a big time hater of AI WAM. Can't stand anything about it. What attracts me to WAM is seeing actual women getting messy, not some fake scene someone fantasizes about. If you create things for personal use I'm OK with that, but those who post it publicly is where I draw the line. It's AI slop, no pun intended.

I love your profile pic.

Yep. This is one of the issues. It's no fun and it's not real.

Erotic arousal is really keyed up on novelty and pushing boundaries. If you spend too much time with it and and you can bring up your fantasies in real time, it's going to get burnt out. And... yes, I have experienced this.

My suggestion is to try to step away from it for a while. Some people have found themselves getting into things the would have earlier found repulsive.

I'm not saying this to shame anybody, but really more of a mental health thing. If you love pies, you'll enjoy it again if you do cut yourself away from all erotic images, fiction and imagination for some time.

I've used it for a very specific camera angle and shot that I like that is rarely in videos I buy.
Don't ask it for any specific people or characteristics, and certainly not celebrities or anything like that. Not even nudity (not sure the one I use even has that available)

I'm far too poor to afford a custom for what would essentially be an extra 30 seconds of footage on a regular video I buy.

I dislike the idea of it generally, and would never pay for any content generated by AI, the real thing is always better when it's available, and I buy just as much content as I did before, but it's been good for 20 seconds here and there.


When I first used it, it did trigger a little autistic obsession in my brain in trying to work out how it thought, where I wasn't even enjoying it, just trying to understand it without following any online guides.

I find the possibilities of it fascinating, but I'm kind of terrified of how wild west some of the platforms seem to be, all the stuff with Elon's one a month or two ago (and I'm assuming still now) was horrific.

As much as I've enjoyed working out how to use it, it very much seems like a tool that shouldn't be available to the likes of me and the rest of Joe Public.
And specifically when it comes to sexual stuff (be it explicit, soft or fetish), I'd imagine it will rapidly have the same effect regular internet has had on society, where by more and more extremes become normalised, there will be an oversaturation of content and people won't be satisfied until they find their niche within a niche within a niche within a niche.

A couple red flags for me that have kept me off the AI train thus far:

- the description of putting real people into AI videos rings a lot of alarm bells about nonconsensual deepfake porn

- the way some people are describing the itch that can't quite be scratched, or feeling unsatisfied with the results but continuing to pursue them and being unable to stop...that's exactly how addiction works. AI addiction is a real thing. Every now and again you get the dopamine kick of it working right, but mostly you're just there chasing those highs that get harder and harder to come by (no pun intended).

I don't know anyone here well enough to earnestly give medical advice, and I'm not a mental health professional, but there are certainly a few alarm bells going off for me.

I tried to use AI to generate scripts for customs, but it just butchered everything.

Lol. That's all I'm going to give this thread.

There are theories about what happens when you get exactly what you want/everything you could imagine, all the time. Now, add atop that that AI is known for doing exactly that.

The longing for something, the desire for that perfect thing, the fact that sometimes it's close but yet not quite right... That all makes the thing all the more desirable, in one's "lizard brain".

I definitely would take a step back from it; too much of anything, and in particular anything that you really enjoy/desire/brings you pleasure, it will inevitably cause some kind of burnout in your quest for it, and AI's catering to the search for perfection I think can easily expedite that burnout, maybe even creating a bigger burnout than simply "I need to take a step back from only focusing on WAM re: sex/pleasure".

I do have empathy here, even though I personally have real problems with AI. The temptation and ability to create the "perfect pie videos" is potentially great, especially as WAM can often seem so impossible to achieve/experience in one's own life. (I truly believe you're better off putting money into a custom to yield the results you want, and to embrace the imperfections and "that's just not fully possibles" of real life physical WAM sessions/shoots. But I didn't come here to preach!)

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Gee, it's almost like this whole AI thing might be bad for WAM.

I get it. I started experimenting with AI a few months ago. I'm seeing what fantasies that I've had since as early as the mid-70s would look like. I'm a PG~13 to R-rated guy. So my fantasies are easy to generate. It's addicting and I've noticed there are definitely consequences for getting everything you want at a push of a button

Yeah, empathy is where I'm at. The way I understand it, the tools are built to get you hooked, at times dangerously so. Even when you get what you want, it's not quite fulfillment or satisfaction.

So I'm not judging anyone for burnout, mental fatigue, addiction, even for the desire to use AI, whatever. I get it. There's lots of things I wish I could do that have been tempting to us AI for, but they just don't seem like they'd leave me content the way the other things I *can* do leave me content.

AI wam isn't for me and that's okay. Seeing it has made me appreciate the wonderful creators of this community even more.

AI is a pretend world, we need to stay in reality

As someone who has created WAM on every conceivably media I can get my hands on, AI is just another tool and a very fun one.

Producing content, hell even drawing or writing stores is a massive time suck, not to mention great expense. AI can unleash your imagination in ways that are strictly limited by money or even physics.

To me it's just another paint brush. So what you like, but for me it's great fun to have a 100 foot woman faceplant into a pick-up truck flatbed full of whipped cream. And I'm not going to apologize for not having a multi-million dollar special effects studio to do it for me.

For me, the only place I've gotten real satisfaction out of using AI is in upscaling old, low-resolution videos.

Generally, the closer to reality that AI is, the better it is with upscaling being better than image editing being better than image generation.

In general, the uncanny valley is still too much for me to get past. But I have played around with Google Gemini. Thing is, it refuses to create a lot of of WAM scenes. What do you use? Is it a pay app? ChatGPT is the same way.

I'd stop if I were you. Sounds like your brain is completely fried, if you're is not capable of getting turned on by the things that turn you on. You may have given yourself ED. And it is wrong to use real people's faces without their consent, especially when they aren't a celebrity or public figure.
I defended AI a couple years ago when the only arguments I was hearing were about how internet artists were complaining about their artstyle being "stolen" when they themselves "stole" their own artstyle from Miyazaki/Bruce Timm/Pendleton Ward/Vivziepop. But the news is out, the cat's out of the bag. AI is an evil industry, beyond just the art. It is destroying people's brains, and worse, it is destroying the environment and making people poor. Nobody knows what's real anymore

OP, as much as I agree with basically everyone on here roasting you for your life choices, I respect the fact you've retained enough self-awareness to realise you have a problem and need to do something about it.

That said, I can't help feeling amused at just how this thread has not gone the way you thought it would. No, the majority of UMDers probably haven't experienced something similar from overuse of AI. Most of us hate that crap.

As often seems to happen, I'm somewhere in the middle on this. Most people seem to either adore AI, or regard it as an utter abomination.

I've had a play with it and posted some of the results here, I've generated way more. But, one thing I've never done is got off to an AI image. It's fun to play with and I could fill galleries with Ai-generated pre-raphaelite paintings of girls in boilersuits enjoying the pleasures of the Hall's mud-bathing chambers. But I see it as side-dressing, a modern version of the clip-art everyone used to decorate their personal websites with back when every ISP gave you a website based on (username) . isp-domain . gtld.

The quality and indeed beauty of what can be produced now is truly astounding and many of the complaints of a year or two ago are history. And it is only going to get better. However, knowing it's not real does definitely have an effect.

Note: As to creating WAM images of real people, celebrity or otherwise - do not do this. The absolute first rule of fetish is "informed consent, always". Putting people into a WAM situation for sexual purposes who didn't consent in advance is fundamentally wrong, it's treating them like objects, not people.

Same. This is the only use of AI that has given me any sort of satisfaction. A lot of great content was made before we all had 4K cameras in our pockets. I've had the best luck with enhancing old still photos, and usually pre-mess works best. Using AI for this purpose works better for me since it's still using real material from something that actually occurred. Though I've had mixed results with that, and even still, I'll often end up going back to the fuzzier source material since it just feels "warmer" as the enhanced content will still feel uncanny at times.

But to the OP's point, I have found myself not fully enjoying WAM content as much as I did when I was younger and finding something that appealed to my tastes was harder. It was so much more of a thrill when there was scarcity. Not saying being spoiled for riches with WAM is bad and I do still enjoy it despite not having that true thrill anymore. But being able to perfectly custom tailor everything to your exact liking is a surefire way to burn out those dopamine receptors.

It's good that you've recognized the problem so that you're aware and can step back. I pretty much guarantee if you take a break for a while and return, you'll feel recharged and will find some great new real content has been made in the meantime.

I've had good fun with it. Frankly I find all the hate boring, you all sound like graphic designers in the late 90s when Photoshop came on the scene. But it's actually done the opposite for me. It's a fun exercise in imagination, and I've gotten some insanely realistic slime videos out of it, but it's only made me appreciate the real stuff even more. This isn't zero-sum for me. It's not a binary thing. I like them both.

I have one question on this topic. Where are you AI fans going to get your daily dose of smut? All the AI LLMs I use have the moral compass of a Victorian Aunt! I asked one to put me in a bathing suit so I could see what I looked like. Nope! Can't even do that, so producing an image even vaguely erotic seems a difficult task. However, I am sure you good people know where to get this stuff.

On the subject of AI. I try and avoid using it. I do not doubt the endeavour and the science behind it. It is a very great achievement. However, the amount of resources it consumes is alarming to say the least. Make me feel better about driving a diesel powered car!

Anyway, real life always trumps a virtual one any day in my book. The most important thing is not to spend too much time doing any one thing as, like the OP says, it's tends to water it down!

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