At the start of the year, Messygirl started a "Where are they now?" segment to celebrate her 25th anniversary. This was a chance to find out where our favourite Messygirl models were these days and what they were up to.
The segment began with Lexi and then...nothing. So either this was only going to be a periodic segment or Messygirl has completely forgotten she was doing this.
Pasta said: Perhaps the models don't want to be doxxed.
I'm sure there are girls who just want to leave it in the past.
This. I'm sure for many of them, especially one-off models for any producer, what is for us a major WAM clip was for them just a Tuesday: Do the gig, get pied/paid, move on in life.
I have never been the kindof person to think about stuff like "what models do" irl... i don't care, and it's not my buisness.
With that being said I do believe that there is a professional way to give some sortof insight to things like "Why did they stop" or "what they generally do now" without outright doxxing them. And simply asking out of curiosity sake doesn't automatically mean that you're a creepy stalker.
But... ofcourse with EVERYTHING in life, these kinds of decisions and stories are specifically the models decisions and IF they feel like disclosing any extra details should be done purely at their discression.
Like... I've wondered what ever happened to Crazygirls, because they were gone right before I really started getting involved on UMD, and was just genuinely curious, not in a "I'm going to look up the details of their private life" kinda way. (I know about Crazygirls now... i just was using this as an example.)
The internet is full of jerks and creeps... but, not everyone has malicious intentions when asking a question.
As well as one might wonder how ex models look back on their crazy youth, it would be wrong to expose them in today's connected world. Probably most girls are married with kids and need that part of their life left undisturbed.
Wow, talk about taking a topic and going to the far side of creep factor. NOT THE OP. I think there is a part of nostalgia that happens with stuff like this. No one thinks youtube video retrospectives about TV shows or Movies doing the where are the actors now is at all creepy. Some people just decide to leave acting and in some cases it is sad because they were good and in some cases good because they were not all that great. Had it not been for a similar video I would not have known that some of the actors/actresses I have liked in things had went to college and moved to a different field and done well. Kind of like how Brian May of Queen is a freaking Rocket Scientist and has worked on projects that have launched things into space. That is all kinds of amazing and interesting to me. I would not have learned that Rick Moranis left acting to take care of his kids after his wife died. That is like top tier.
There is nothing wrong with where are they now kind of posts. I think where they go off the rails in my mind is when you have ones that say for example, Girl 4 from Friday the 13th 5 is now taking orders at McDonalds on the corner of Main St and 3rd in anytown USA.
dalamar666 said: Wow, talk about taking a topic and going to the far side of creep factor. NOT THE OP. I think there is a part of nostalgia that happens with stuff like this. No one thinks youtube video retrospectives about TV shows or Movies doing the where are the actors now is at all creepy. Some people just decide to leave acting and in some cases it is sad because they were good and in some cases good because they were not all that great. Had it not been for a similar video I would not have known that some of the actors/actresses I have liked in things had went to college and moved to a different field and done well. Kind of like how Brian May of Queen is a freaking Rocket Scientist and has worked on projects that have launched things into space. That is all kinds of amazing and interesting to me. I would not have learned that Rick Moranis left acting to take care of his kids after his wife died. That is like top tier.
There is nothing wrong with where are they now kind of posts. I think where they go off the rails in my mind is when you have ones that say for example, Girl 4 from Friday the 13th 5 is now taking orders at McDonalds on the corner of Main St and 3rd in anytown USA.
Ok, maybe you've got a point. I don't think it's categorically creepy to wonder what happened to X model, especially when a producer tells us that said model wanted to shoot again but such-and-such got in the way.
But let's not forget that not every interest in "where are they now" posts is totally innocuous. I don't know the OP's intent, but there was another thread circulating just a couple of days ago where there was a big debate about whether or not it was ok to track down a model on Facebook. There are folks here...members and lurkers...who will use "where are they now" opportunities to track down a model and spam her with requests to take pies in the face while wearing a white blouse and a black skirt and dark pantyhose with her hair tied into pigtails before stripping down to yellow bandeau bikini top and black bikini bottom before eventually going topless and then full nude "for a funny video for charity." There's no problem whatsoever if black skirt white blouse etc is your kink...the problem is when people who are otherwise non-affiliated with WAM or who have left the biz get spammed or doxxed despite being out of it. (No intent to single out that particular fetish/niche, it was just the first I thought of in the moment.)
We're not just talking about Brian May getting a PhD in astrophysics or Rick Moranis taking care of his family. We're talking about learning more about fetish models than the content they produce online. That's cool if someone is comfortable sharing aspects of their personal life, but when we wonder "why aren't more models getting 'where are they now' retrospectives," well, it seems like the simple fact is that "where are they now" becomes a personal/private question.
My point was that, in most cases, fetish models are just doing the gig. That's it. It's good money, it's not always explicit, and it's kind of a funny cultural touchstone. "I got pied once upon a time, and I got paid good money to do it." The end. There's a danger to making models out to be more than they are...I've been following producers like Slapstickstuff for longer than I've been on this board, and usually the answer to "where are they now" is "married with kids" or "working 300K instagram followers." Maybe too many of us have erred on the side of caution in this thread, but for good reason.
I feel like the OP's question got unfairly strawmanned into a "Why are you obsessing over where these models are now?" thing, when the post didn't come off that way to me at all. If this was a segment Messygirl was doing, I don't see the harm in asking what happened to it. That said, it's one of those things that is cool/interesting if it materializes, but part of the "excitement" in this (for me, anyway) is knowing that these women likely have professional careers/lives apart from fetish modeling that we'll never know about.
Seeing a modern day photo of Lexi in that spectacular thread was frankly beyond cool. If other models were into sharing same for the occasion, great. If not, also great. I'm not interested in much more, such as cell number, bank account, or blood type.
JazzTalker said: but there was another thread circulating just a couple of days ago where there was a big debate about whether or not it was ok to track down a model on Facebook. There are folks here...members and lurkers...who will use "where are they now" opportunities to track down a model and spam her with requests to take pies in the face while wearing a white blouse and a black skirt and dark pantyhose with her hair tied into pigtails before stripping down to yellow bandeau bikini top and black bikini bottom before eventually going topless and then full nude "for a funny video for charity."
I completely agree with the creep factor of going the extra mile to find people. I don't want to help these idiots, but I will say if they are going by the "where are they now" posts, they are not efficient. Due to my job I know about some of the things available on the dark side of the internet to track people down.
I also know about the person that is exploiting the ruse of charity for their kink and that is pretty fucked up.
There have been quite a few where are they now type posts that have been fun and informative and like so and so became a lawyer or so and so is a happy stay at home mom. Which is great. I know that when it comes to the referenced Messygirl thing, they have been very respectful of the models personal lives. Yeah they could have blasted the youtube video of Lexi making the claims she did out of shame in some "testimony" video. But they didn't. They said this is what happened. The things Lexi said have been spelled out in other posts multiple times.
Yes in the fetish world if Mary from a producer was doing this to get through school and got her degree and now has a career in that field, that is not different from the Brian May example. I will assume that producers have consent to share things that are outside of what can be readily found online. In my mind once you allow information to be shared online about you, that is consent for others to share that information.