Does anyone have an up to date list of names of professional messy models who are based in the UK?
Ideally they won't have done any messy sessions in the last twelve months. Photoshoots, yes. Messy sessions, no.
This is for a future project. Not my project, so if you're named in this thread, please don't message me. I'm simply going to pass the names over to the person whose project it is, and who wants to keep things secret for the time being, as the virus situation will need to improve significantly before the project can go ahead.
Thank you!
10/12/20, 5:05pm: Several flags on this post, but it's not particularly against any rule to ask for a list of local models; He hasn't given reason to think his project is not legit.
Apart from not knowing really what you mean by "professional messy model" as I think there are very few who own their whole income through messy work.
I don't mean to sound harsh but this post comes across as a bit odd / creepy and weird. I don't think it's going to encourage any model to want to get involved in this project and if it's not your project I suggest you leave it to the person who's project it is to sort out who they are going to work with.
bosunbob said: Apart from not knowing really what you mean by "professional messy model" as I think there are very few who own their whole income through messy work.
I don't mean to sound harsh but this post comes across as a bit odd / creepy and weird. I don't think it's going to encourage any model to want to get involved in this project and if it's not your project I suggest you leave it to the person who's project it is to sort out who they are going to work with.
I was trying to be tactful in my post, but, if I need to be blunt, I will be. I mean a professional model who does messy photoshoots, but, and here's the blunt bit, doesn't do escorting.
As my post made clear, it was not meant to encourage anyone, but rather to enable me to supply a list of names to the person whose project this will be, and who has asked me to post this.
I was surprised they didn't feel able to post their own request, but I think I might now know why.
I think it would be better to wait until the pandemic situation improves, then ask again. Bear in mind that models retire for various reasons (e.g. starting a family), so someone who's eligible for work now won't necessarily be available when your friend is ready to go ahead with the mystery project; equally, there might be new models who are available later, but won't be listed now.
I think the answer to the original question is 'no'.
Nobody holds such a list and certainly nobody is going to sit down and compile one for the benefit of some sketchy third party.
It's an impertinent question, tactlessly put - to presume there's some pimp-like character on here who acts as agent for all messy models. And stipulating no 'escort' work without giving any reason? Have you read any posts on this forum before?
Anyone who models on here - or for anyone on here - is an individual free agent and I'm afraid, like the rest of us, your associate will have to make his or her own enquiries and approaches to acquire this information.
Richard Trouso said: I think the answer to the original question is 'no'.
Nobody holds such a list and certainly nobody is going to sit down and compile one for the benefit of some sketchy third party.
It's an impertinent question, tactlessly put - to presume there's some pimp-like character on here who acts as agent for all messy models. And stipulating no 'escort' work without giving any reason? Have you read any posts on this forum before?
Anyone who models on here - or for anyone on here - is an individual free agent and I'm afraid, like the rest of us, your associate will have to make his or her own enquiries and approaches to acquire this information.
One of the regulars on here used to maintain a website with a list of models offering messy sessions, so neither I nor my friend believed it would be too much of a leap of the imagination to hope there might be a similar list of models likely to be prepared to do other forms of messy work, when the virus abates sufficiently.
I realise it's a difficult time for those on here who make or supplement a living through sales of photos or video clips, but nothing in this plan will have a negative impact on any of them, as it's something quite different.
Richard Trouso said: I think the answer to the original question is 'no'.
Nobody holds such a list and certainly nobody is going to sit down and compile one for the benefit of some sketchy third party.
It's an impertinent question, tactlessly put - to presume there's some pimp-like character on here who acts as agent for all messy models. And stipulating no 'escort' work without giving any reason? Have you read any posts on this forum before?
Anyone who models on here - or for anyone on here - is an individual free agent and I'm afraid, like the rest of us, your associate will have to make his or her own enquiries and approaches to acquire this information.
One of the regulars on here used to maintain a website with a list of models offering messy sessions, so neither I nor my friend believed it would be too much of a leap of the imagination to hope there might be a similar list of models likely to be prepared to do other forms of messy work, when the virus abates sufficiently.
I realise it's a difficult time for those on here who make or supplement a living through sales of photos or video clips, but nothing in this plan will have a negative impact on any of them, as it's something quite different.
Thanks. I appreciate your reply.
But my point was not that you're proposing anything that is threatening to other producers or their fortunes and it certainly has nothing to do with the virus.
It's simply that your request is asking quite a lot given that neither you or your associate are prepared to divulge any details about your project. With all due respect, you give away nothing about yourself or your interests in you own profile either. So what are your credentials?
You can cross-reference that against the models who do other work, and infer who *isn't* offering sessions. However, if you're asking "has model X ever worked as an escort?" then there's no way for us to know, and I think that's quite an intrusive question; it's none of my business what they do when they're off-camera.
Also, I appreciate that you're trying to keep the details under wraps, but I think you'll have to reveal some extra information at some point. For instance, do you actually want to meet these models in person? If so, that will limit your choices, partly because of their comfort levels (some models will only work with producers they know personally) and partly because of logistics (are you going to travel to them or will they need to travel to your location?).
Richard Trouso said: I think the answer to the original question is 'no'.
Nobody holds such a list and certainly nobody is going to sit down and compile one for the benefit of some sketchy third party.
It's an impertinent question, tactlessly put - to presume there's some pimp-like character on here who acts as agent for all messy models. And stipulating no 'escort' work without giving any reason? Have you read any posts on this forum before?
Anyone who models on here - or for anyone on here - is an individual free agent and I'm afraid, like the rest of us, your associate will have to make his or her own enquiries and approaches to acquire this information.
One of the regulars on here used to maintain a website with a list of models offering messy sessions, so neither I nor my friend believed it would be too much of a leap of the imagination to hope there might be a similar list of models likely to be prepared to do other forms of messy work, when the virus abates sufficiently.
I realise it's a difficult time for those on here who make or supplement a living through sales of photos or video clips, but nothing in this plan will have a negative impact on any of them, as it's something quite different.
Thanks. I appreciate your reply.
But my point was not that you're proposing anything that is threatening to other producers or their fortunes and it certainly has nothing to do with the virus.
It's simply that your request is asking quite a lot given that neither you or your associate are prepared to divulge any details about your project. With all due respect, you give away nothing about yourself or your interests in you own profile either. So what are your credentials?
I must admit I wasn't prepared for the reaction my post would cause, and I'm saddened to see it's been reported lots of times.
I don't get this trouble if I ask for plumber recommendations on Facebook!
I made clear I didn't wish any models to contact me. I was just looking for a list of possibles which I could present to my friend, and she will approach her choice(s) when the time is right.
I realise there's very little on my profile. Lots of people post photos of messy sessions they've been on the receiving end of, but I haven't been. My interest is in photography, and I've photographed a few sessions for others, but it isn't my place to post the photos on here.
Most of my photography doesn't even involve models, so I only know a small number of models, and they have all scaled down their work in recent years, to the extent where they aren't really all that up to date with who's who, and who does what now.
flank said: Candy Custard has a list of people who currently (or recently) offered sessions: https://www.sploshsessions.com/
You can cross-reference that against the models who do other work, and infer who *isn't* offering sessions. However, if you're asking "has model X ever worked as an escort?" then there's no way for us to know, and I think that's quite an intrusive question; it's none of my business what they do when they're off-camera.
Also, I appreciate that you're trying to keep the details under wraps, but I think you'll have to reveal some extra information at some point. For instance, do you actually want to meet these models in person? If so, that will limit your choices, partly because of their comfort levels (some models will only work with producers they know personally) and partly because of logistics (are you going to travel to them or will they need to travel to your location?).
Yes, that's the site I was thinking of earlier. Something along those lines, and up-to-date would be perfect.
I don't think I'll be needed for the actual photography/filming. I think my friend will be able to manage it herself.
flansomeman said: Just out of curiosity, why is your friend going via you and not setting up an account of their own? It feels like a weird additional step.
She has or had her own account on here, and still lurks, but we thought it would be simpler for me to post, as I've been quite active on here over the last few months.