So this is something I also posted on another site...but thought it may get a better audience here

So many posts about playing games is that you play the game and the loser takes a forfeit...but I like the idea of forfeits going both ways through a game, now this game could be modified for Battleships as well but I'm going to focus on Chess as the rules are more complex.

There are three optional modes of forfeits for this game, Mess (of course!), Stripping and Other punishments...this may be a read, but I hope you will find it worthwhile and would love to know if anyone plays this

First...some chess basics.

Pieces are worth different points in the proper game:
Pawn = 1
Knights/Bishops = 3
Rooks = 5
Queen = 8

So penalties should reflect that.

We also have other moves that can be considered:

Castling
En Pass En
Check
Check Mate
Stale Mate

Mess:
Here my suggestion is to have a messy action for each piece taken.

Pawns: Something basic like an egg, small yogurt pot, ladle of custard...whatever your preference would be
Bishops/Knights: This would need to take things up a notch...So maybe a large yoghurt pot, carton of custard, can of beans
Rooks: For this I would say a big pie, or a cake to sit on, maybe even a trifle
Queen: This should be big, like a bucket worth of mess...Custard or ideally gunge
King/Check Mate: This should be a final spectacular forfeit predetermined by the players!
Stale mate: Both players would take the final forfeit

Stripping:

Now...there are just too many pieces to make it 1 piece taken for each article of clothing removed, but there are options...

Option 1: number of pieces taken = a strip, so for example every 3 pieces you lose mean you take an item of clothing off, but this means you would have to lose every piece basically to get naked...so you may want to switch it to 2 pieces if you want to be stripped more quickly

Option 2: Points.
Considering the points value of the pieces (as listed above), you can in total earn 38 points (not counting the King)
You could assign points values to clothing, which could be traded for points

So...for example:
Top: 5
T-shirt: 5
Socks: 3
Bottoms: 5
Bra: 5
Panties/Boxers: 8 points

Of course you could lower/increase the number of points depending on how quickly you want players to get naked.

If we are keeping it an even number of clothes between players, Men would have a top over their T-shirt, while women would have the bra and T-shirt

Other Forfeits:

So this bit is more personal and may require some extra planning/coordination before the game depending on how you want to play...

The idea would be to have extra penalties in addition to mess when pieces are taken...

For Example:
Wedgies
Ice
Spanking
Body Writing
Water Balloons
Nipple squeezing
whatever punishments that the other player is okay to do (remember to respect peoples limits in this regard!)

How these forfeits are dished out...well again there are options:

1. Assign specific forfeits to pieces, as with the mess
2. Give each forfeit a number and do a random dice roll
3. Add forfeits to a wheel and spin for it
4. Just choose whichever forfeit you like for your opponent
5. Include the other activities such as castling for additional forfeits

But whatever you choose, I always think having a list of forfeits before a game is best:
1. To make the flow of the game faster
2. To establish that any forfeits are okay for your opponent to do


Of course all the above are suggestions, if people have ideas of their own for a game like this I welcome you to post them below for the benefit of all.

I have played something like this before...just not with mess and I can tell you it was a lot of fun!

Of course playing on cam is always best if doing this online.

As I struggle to find girls here in Poland into mess...I am probably confined to playing this online...
I will admit I am considering commissioning this for a video or cam session...just trying to think about that, so if you are a producer who likes this idea feel free to reach out to me and we can discuss

Thank you for reading, I hope someone has fun from this game

After nearly 500 views and no comments...I'm going to assume I have made this over complicated in the explanation (or heaven forbid people think this is a bad idea!) So I thought I would provide an example to illustrate!

John and Asia decide to play a game, before the game they establish the following:

Mess:

Each mess is to be used as opponent specifies after piece is taken, numbers represent the order of pieces taken, i.e. Pawn 1 is the first Pawn taken, Pawn 3 would be the 3rd Pawn taken

Pawns 1-3: An egg each
Pawns 4-6: A yoghurt pot each
Pawns 7-8: Shaving cream pies
Knight 1: Double cream
Knight 2: Carton of Custard
Bishop 1: Strawberry Jam
Bishop 2: Large pot of Yoghurt
Rook 1: Can of Beans
Rook 2: Bottle of Mustard
Queen: Tub of melted ice cream
Final forfeit: Bucket of gunge + any unused items

Stripping:

They decide to keep things simple that every 2 pieces taken means removing an item of clothing
If the loser at the end of the game is still wearing clothing they remove everything they have left on

Forfeits:

They decide that after each piece is taken a random forfeit (determined by online dice roll) will be done from the list below:

Water balloon popped as directed
20 spanks to ass
10 nipple twists
Wedgie (or re-roll of underwear already removed)
Clothes pin attached to nipple until next piece removed
5 spanks to genitals
Word written on body of opponents choice and where opponent specifies (face out of bounds)
Drop of wax melted on body part of opponents choice
Ice cube applied as opponents wish
Player has to dance for 1 minute
Pie Sandwich
Pie to be used as opponent specifies
Massage oil to be used as directed

They decide that for every check, castle and en passe on a forfeit will be rolled as above

Final forfeit:

They decide that all remaining mess will be used as directed by opponent, as well as a bucket of gunge.
Loser also has to do 5 forfeits of opponents choosing


I hope this helps to clear things up...if people want me to write a small roleplay of how the above plays out let me know

You may get some interest if you post this in the "Wam Games" Group

Thank you, that may indeed be a better placeholder for it so I will add, also thought it may be nice for the wider audience to appreciate

I could see this working for a long and slow gunge situation, assuming two models who know how to play chess.

I'd do it a bit differently as I've no intereset in stripping or tweaking/clamping, but say two smartly dressed, or even smart casual, models, sitting at a chessboard with camera side-on, and something like:

For each pawn lost, they have to pour a small amount of mess somewhere inside their own clothes.

For a rook, they stand up, a gateaux is placed on the seat, and they must sit in it and keep playing.

For a knight, three full bottles of chocolate or raspberry sauce which they must empty into their own outfits.

For a bishop, a bucket of custard poured over them while leaning back, so it goes all down their clothes.

For check (but not mate) the checked player gets pied in the face.

For winning, the loser has to bathe in mess.

For stalemate, both players have to bathe in mess.

If the match was timed, an additional point of interest could be that every minute, or every 5 minutes, assistants pour something messy down inside the back of each player's clothes from the neck.

Imho, the game needs to be simpler so that the focus is more on the forfeits, less on the game.

Always nice to hear other variations on the theme!
I like the use of the clock!
I think this could end up in a lot of pies being thrown with the Check rule...depending on how the game goes of course

But just as there are near endless variations of chess games, so too there are a lot of ways this game could be adapted for messy fun!

I always thought it would be fund to do WAM "living chess" where the pieces are also involved. You have the two controlling players, with a big forfeit at the end for the loser, but each piece "takes" another according to rank, similar to how you've pointed out. So, if a pawn takes a pawn, the "losing" pawn takes a small whipped cream pie, but, if a bishop takes a pawn, perhaps a large chocolate pie. If a pawn takes a bishop, though, still the small whipped cream pie, because that's the "armament" a pawn has.

It would be great if some producer did this. I humbly nominate @revslymford, as he has been making "big" game scenes for a while.

That would be epic! But a scene with 32 models!!! I think that would be very expensive hahaha, would be amazing to watch though

I think the idea with this is that the game should be of equal importance to the messings, to produce a much longer and slower gunging. If you want fast messings with the emphasis mainly on the messes, you play simple card games or scissors-paper-stone. Different people do seem to have very different approaches to this kind of thing - all those scenes the Moomins do where the girls stay completely clean while playing a game but then the loser goes in the gunge tank. That doesn't appeal to me at all but they've shot dozens of them so clearly they sell. I'm guessing if someone wants the mess to happen slowly and gradually, perhaps done in such a way the girls can feel it - say stuff in their underwear or inside their clothes - but at first there's no visible sign on the outside, you just know they are getting squelchy underneath, then this chess idea would wok. With the added bonus of the players trying to concentrate while various messy liquids are seeping through their clothes and into sensitive places.


34 if you include the two "controllers". That's going to be well north of £1,300 in model fees, even at basic rates, plus the cost of the gunge. TBH I'd want the pawns armed with rather more than one cream pie if that's the only gunge their opponent is going to get. Each peice taken is their only gunge so it should be total - except that's going to drive the price stratsopheric.

This is one of the main thoughts I have had with this! Sure it could end up being a long game (depending on the skills of the players) but yes that mess would be sitting there, soaking...and the players would feel it throughout...
Plus it's a good chance for both players to suffer through it...honestly I'd love to find someone I can play against...that would be a fantasy fulfilled for me :p

Quick note: I am still considering a custom webcam session for this if any models would like to give it a try feel free to PM me and we can discuss costs/timings/rules etc...

Longer note: I thought I would do a small highlight summary of the game between John and Asia for the benefit of those who want more clarity on how this game would look!

John and Asia set up their respective 'working areas' each has a small pool surrounded by some sheeting in a well lit room, There are plenty of paper towels, bin bags and regular towels nearby for some quickly needed cleanup.

They have all their mess already accessible, whether it be opened containers, buckets or jugs...everything is there and ready to go for the session.

John is wearing some black socks, blue jeans, black boxers, a white T-shirt and a blue Jumper
Asia has some stockings, a short black skirt, white panties and bra and a pink T-shirt

They set up the computers, one screen for the Skype video, another where they are logged into Chess.com, they are also in a shared Dice room

The computer has decided Asia will be white and John Black...after some chat, some banter and some teasing...especially from Asia...they begin the game:

Here...I won't go move for move...but piece by piece taken, and other significant actions:

First blood to Asia, she takes John's 1st Pawn: He is told to smash his first egg over his head, The dice comes up Water Balloon and this goes to his crotch

John takes Asia's 1st Pawn: Her egg is smashed over her forehead, she has to take 20 spanks to her ass

Asia takes a second pawn: John has to remove his top and smash the egg over his T-shirt, he has to dance for her for 1 minute

Asia then takes a third Pawn: John's final egg goes inside the front of his boxers and gets a resounding smash, he gets a wedgie with this action

John takes Asia's first knight: She removes her T-shirt, double cream gets poured over her chest and she takes a peg to her left nipple through the bra

John take's Asia's second pawn: She removes the peg, smashes an egg inside her left bra cup and ends up sitting on a water balloon

Asia takes John's first knight: He has to remove his socks, pours double cream in his boxers and gets spanked 20 times

Asia takes John's fourth pawn: He gets a yoghurt pot dumped over his head and an ice cube goes down the front of his boxers

John takes Asia's first Bishop: She has to remove her stockings, Strawberry Jam is smeared across her chest and she gets an ice cube down the back of her panties

John takes Asia's third Pawn: The egg gets smashed against her crotch up her shirt and she has a drop of wax dribble down her cleavage

John Castle's: Asia ends up with a pie sandwich!

Asia Castle's: John twists his nipples 10 times through his T-shirt

John takes Asia's 2nd Bishop: She has to remove her skirt, a large pot of yoghurt is dumped in her panties and she takes a pie to her crotch

John Check's Asia: She has to write slut across her chest

Asia takes John's first rook: He has to remove his Jeans, gets a can of beans dumped over his head and a pie to his crotch

Asia takes John's second knight: The carton of custard goes down the front and back of his boxers and he gets spanked 20 times

Asia Check's John: His turn for a pie sandwich

Asia Check's John again: This time he gets another wedgie

John takes Asia's Queen: The melted ice cream goes right over her head and she takes an ice cube between her butt cheeks

John Take's Asia's first Rook: She has to remove her bra, has the can of beans dumped over her face and she gets a wedgie

John Check's Asia: She gets a pie to the face

John check's her again: She has to massage her breasts with massage oil

John Takes Asia's second Rook: The bottle of mustard goes right over her head and she has to spank herself 20 times

John gets Checkmate:

- Asia removes her panties
- She gets the bucket of slime dumped over her head, the remaining mess spread over her body...
She then has to do the following forfeits:
Dance for 1 minute
Spanks her pussy 5 times
Spanks her ass 20 times
Has Loser written across her stomach
Finally she has a water balloon dumped over her head to help clean off...

And there you have it folks...an example of what one game may look like, hope this triggers the imagination