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"Lenny's Pied Babes Question"
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I've been rewatching Lenny's Pied Babes videos and I'm wondering how did Lenny convince so many beautiful girls to get pied in public? Did he pay them or were they willing to get pied for free?
PS I don't know why these images are out of order
PS I don't know why these images are out of order
1) Everyone needs money to live
2) Many people are willing to do weird shit for money
2) Many people are willing to do weird shit for money
There was a popular post on the r/pics subreddit earlier this week about a guy from New York and a collage of all the women he was able to stop on the street and get to sit on his face--in public--just by holding up a sign that said "Peace through face-sitting."
Point is you don't know if you don't ask.
Point is you don't know if you don't ask.
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FYI, Lenny had nothing to do with any of the pics you posted.
I guess "Doodmon" used to be common knowledge years ago, but his work/history has started disappearing over the years. In short, he was a mysterious guy (not even a "producer," as he never sold any of his clips) who had a knack for pieing attractive women in public places.
I corresponded with the guy for a while back in the 2000s, but he never really divulged his methodology.... or even his real name, for that matter.
As for how Lenny got a hold of those particular pics/videos, this is my OWN post from a previous Doodmon thread... which I realize is dated 2016, because we're all aging rapidly.
"I have some with audio, yes. They were obtained direct from Dood himself.
Near as I remember (and Lenny might correct this): Doodmon started posting pics from these vids online, in Yahoo Groups and the UMD. Got people excited. But there wasn't any video available. (My personal theory: These were obtained through not-especially-official means... i.e. the girls didn't sign release forms and weren't aware the clips would be distributed online. So that's why Dood was reluctant to post them the videos online and/or sell them. But that's another can of worms.)
Lenny was still doing annual FL shoots, so Dood contacted him and basically got a custom in exchange for ALL his rare footage. He gave Lenny a VHS tape with some of his stuff as a "good faith gesture," but with the audio removed. (Also a few of the clips were edited down.) Lenny did the custom... Dood didn't provide the remaining footage... There was a dispute... And finally an agreement was reached where Lenny would sell the clips from the VHS himself, and that money would offset what Dood owed him.
So basically, Lenny "owns" those Doodmon clips... because the original producer double-crossed him. But Dood kept making clips for a while yet, and most of those never surfaced. (The one of the hottie in a hotel room on the bed getting real pies is an exception.) Legally they're still his... But practically, he's long left the community (I haven't talked to him in years) so those clips are lost for good."
I guess "Doodmon" used to be common knowledge years ago, but his work/history has started disappearing over the years. In short, he was a mysterious guy (not even a "producer," as he never sold any of his clips) who had a knack for pieing attractive women in public places.
I corresponded with the guy for a while back in the 2000s, but he never really divulged his methodology.... or even his real name, for that matter.
As for how Lenny got a hold of those particular pics/videos, this is my OWN post from a previous Doodmon thread... which I realize is dated 2016, because we're all aging rapidly.
"I have some with audio, yes. They were obtained direct from Dood himself.
Near as I remember (and Lenny might correct this): Doodmon started posting pics from these vids online, in Yahoo Groups and the UMD. Got people excited. But there wasn't any video available. (My personal theory: These were obtained through not-especially-official means... i.e. the girls didn't sign release forms and weren't aware the clips would be distributed online. So that's why Dood was reluctant to post them the videos online and/or sell them. But that's another can of worms.)
Lenny was still doing annual FL shoots, so Dood contacted him and basically got a custom in exchange for ALL his rare footage. He gave Lenny a VHS tape with some of his stuff as a "good faith gesture," but with the audio removed. (Also a few of the clips were edited down.) Lenny did the custom... Dood didn't provide the remaining footage... There was a dispute... And finally an agreement was reached where Lenny would sell the clips from the VHS himself, and that money would offset what Dood owed him.
So basically, Lenny "owns" those Doodmon clips... because the original producer double-crossed him. But Dood kept making clips for a while yet, and most of those never surfaced. (The one of the hottie in a hotel room on the bed getting real pies is an exception.) Legally they're still his... But practically, he's long left the community (I haven't talked to him in years) so those clips are lost for good."
soundguy said: 1) Everyone needs money to live
2) Many people are willing to do weird shit for money
2) Many people are willing to do weird shit for money
There's literally a tiktok account, not even WAM related, where dudes drive to different college campuses and give people money to do things. Pie your friend in the face, here's $50. Take this bowl of water and dump it over your head, here's $50.
If I recall correctly, I think back then a thread on the subject pieced together that Doodmon was a hairstylist/aesthetician of some renown. We guessed, from many of the settings (lots of pics in a salon), etc, that he may have offered this as a precursor to what would ahve been an expensive and hard to book beauty appointment. The could have been very willing to get messy knowing their hair was going to be washed and styled right after. Of course, a discount or other payment could be involved.
Of course, maybe we were all off base.
Of course, maybe we were all off base.
Clinton77 said: These pics were a huge deal on usenet way back in the real early 2000's. I remember it taking a few minutes to see them with my dial up connection.
You beat me to the punch with this comment. Coming across these Doodmon clips back in the day was like finding a goldmine.
SlapstickStuff said: FYI, Lenny had nothing to do with any of the pics you posted.
I guess "Doodmon" used to be common knowledge years ago, but his work/history has started disappearing over the years. In short, he was a mysterious guy (not even a "producer," as he never sold any of his clips) who had a knack for pieing attractive women in public places.
I corresponded with the guy for a while back in the 2000s, but he never really divulged his methodology.... or even his real name, for that matter.
As for how Lenny got a hold of those particular pics/videos, this is my OWN post from a previous Doodmon thread... which I realize is dated 2016, because we're all aging rapidly.
"I have some with audio, yes. They were obtained direct from Dood himself.
Near as I remember (and Lenny might correct this): Doodmon started posting pics from these vids online, in Yahoo Groups and the UMD. Got people excited. But there wasn't any video available. (My personal theory: These were obtained through not-especially-official means... i.e. the girls didn't sign release forms and weren't aware the clips would be distributed online. So that's why Dood was reluctant to post them the videos online and/or sell them. But that's another can of worms.)
Lenny was still doing annual FL shoots, so Dood contacted him and basically got a custom in exchange for ALL his rare footage. He gave Lenny a VHS tape with some of his stuff as a "good faith gesture," but with the audio removed. (Also a few of the clips were edited down.) Lenny did the custom... Dood didn't provide the remaining footage... There was a dispute... And finally an agreement was reached where Lenny would sell the clips from the VHS himself, and that money would offset what Dood owed him.
So basically, Lenny "owns" those Doodmon clips... because the original producer double-crossed him. But Dood kept making clips for a while yet, and most of those never surfaced. (The one of the hottie in a hotel room on the bed getting real pies is an exception.) Legally they're still his... But practically, he's long left the community (I haven't talked to him in years) so those clips are lost for good."
I guess "Doodmon" used to be common knowledge years ago, but his work/history has started disappearing over the years. In short, he was a mysterious guy (not even a "producer," as he never sold any of his clips) who had a knack for pieing attractive women in public places.
I corresponded with the guy for a while back in the 2000s, but he never really divulged his methodology.... or even his real name, for that matter.
As for how Lenny got a hold of those particular pics/videos, this is my OWN post from a previous Doodmon thread... which I realize is dated 2016, because we're all aging rapidly.
"I have some with audio, yes. They were obtained direct from Dood himself.
Near as I remember (and Lenny might correct this): Doodmon started posting pics from these vids online, in Yahoo Groups and the UMD. Got people excited. But there wasn't any video available. (My personal theory: These were obtained through not-especially-official means... i.e. the girls didn't sign release forms and weren't aware the clips would be distributed online. So that's why Dood was reluctant to post them the videos online and/or sell them. But that's another can of worms.)
Lenny was still doing annual FL shoots, so Dood contacted him and basically got a custom in exchange for ALL his rare footage. He gave Lenny a VHS tape with some of his stuff as a "good faith gesture," but with the audio removed. (Also a few of the clips were edited down.) Lenny did the custom... Dood didn't provide the remaining footage... There was a dispute... And finally an agreement was reached where Lenny would sell the clips from the VHS himself, and that money would offset what Dood owed him.
So basically, Lenny "owns" those Doodmon clips... because the original producer double-crossed him. But Dood kept making clips for a while yet, and most of those never surfaced. (The one of the hottie in a hotel room on the bed getting real pies is an exception.) Legally they're still his... But practically, he's long left the community (I haven't talked to him in years) so those clips are lost for good."
Doodmon is more mysterious than Satoshi.
Thank you for providing the history behind this legend.
Take this with a grain of salt, but based on my email convos with Doodmon.... Plus hearing the ACTUAL audio for some of these clips (which you don't get on the Lenny versions)....
I think he was simply a guy who bought some bakery pies, then walked around with a camera and approached attractive women until he found one willing to get pied for money. (Which was probably "good money" for the early 2000s, i.e. $50.)
He would coach them on reactions (look shocked, surprised, etc.) and maybe a little dialogue. Perhaps this tied into a "cover story" about shooting content for a show or comedy thing... I dunno. I'd be *shocked* if he told them up-front that this was for a weird messy fetish. Which feels wrong now.... But again, early 2000s. Things were looser. And Dood never sold these clips himself, so simply throwing up a few screen grabs on Usenet didn't seem so bad.
(I would assume Lenny had the consent forms from all these women for all these clips? If he really did just take Dood's VHS compilation and sell it himself as "payback" for a non-paid custom, well that's a much murkier area. But not my department!)
Later on, Doodmon definitely had some "go-to" girls that he shot repeatedly, usually outdoors in some park area. These early pics are definitely just random women, pied once and never again. Not sure about the salon angle... Maybe he knew the owner and they were cool with him dropping pie on the floor? I'm more amazed by the clips shot inside a department store... How did THAT happen?!?
ANYWAY. Here's a few more pics from vids that haven't really been seen.... I think the well-endowed cutie sitting on a bench (at a college?) was the last pic he put up publicly. My personal fave is the ponytail girl standing outside the store window.... Absolutely adorable, gets well clobbered, real "Mya" vibe to her! (I'm sure she's in her 40s now!)
I think he was simply a guy who bought some bakery pies, then walked around with a camera and approached attractive women until he found one willing to get pied for money. (Which was probably "good money" for the early 2000s, i.e. $50.)
He would coach them on reactions (look shocked, surprised, etc.) and maybe a little dialogue. Perhaps this tied into a "cover story" about shooting content for a show or comedy thing... I dunno. I'd be *shocked* if he told them up-front that this was for a weird messy fetish. Which feels wrong now.... But again, early 2000s. Things were looser. And Dood never sold these clips himself, so simply throwing up a few screen grabs on Usenet didn't seem so bad.
(I would assume Lenny had the consent forms from all these women for all these clips? If he really did just take Dood's VHS compilation and sell it himself as "payback" for a non-paid custom, well that's a much murkier area. But not my department!)
Later on, Doodmon definitely had some "go-to" girls that he shot repeatedly, usually outdoors in some park area. These early pics are definitely just random women, pied once and never again. Not sure about the salon angle... Maybe he knew the owner and they were cool with him dropping pie on the floor? I'm more amazed by the clips shot inside a department store... How did THAT happen?!?
ANYWAY. Here's a few more pics from vids that haven't really been seen.... I think the well-endowed cutie sitting on a bench (at a college?) was the last pic he put up publicly. My personal fave is the ponytail girl standing outside the store window.... Absolutely adorable, gets well clobbered, real "Mya" vibe to her! (I'm sure she's in her 40s now!)
SlapstickStuff said: Take this with a grain of salt, but based on my email convos with Doodmon.... Plus hearing the ACTUAL audio for some of these clips (which you don't get on the Lenny versions)....
I think he was simply a guy who bought some bakery pies, then walked around with a camera and approached attractive women until he found one willing to get pied for money. (Which was probably "good money" for the early 2000s, i.e. $50.)
He would coach them on reactions (look shocked, surprised, etc.) and maybe a little dialogue. Perhaps this tied into a "cover story" about shooting content for a show or comedy thing... I dunno. I'd be *shocked* if he told them up-front that this was for a weird messy fetish. Which feels wrong now.... But again, early 2000s. Things were looser. And Dood never sold these clips himself, so simply throwing up a few screen grabs on Usenet didn't seem so bad.
(I would assume Lenny had the consent forms from all these women for all these clips? If he really did just take Dood's VHS compilation and sell it himself as "payback" for a non-paid custom, well that's a much murkier area. But not my department!)
Later on, Doodmon definitely had some "go-to" girls that he shot repeatedly, usually outdoors in some park area. These early pics are definitely just random women, pied once and never again. Not sure about the salon angle... Maybe he knew the owner and they were cool with him dropping pie on the floor? I'm more amazed by the clips shot inside a department store... How did THAT happen?!?
ANYWAY. Here's a few more pics from vids that haven't really been seen.... I think the well-endowed cutie sitting on a bench (at a college?) was the last pic he put up publicly. My personal fave is the ponytail girl standing outside the store window.... Absolutely adorable, gets well clobbered, real "Mya" vibe to her! (I'm sure she's in her 40s now!)
I think he was simply a guy who bought some bakery pies, then walked around with a camera and approached attractive women until he found one willing to get pied for money. (Which was probably "good money" for the early 2000s, i.e. $50.)
He would coach them on reactions (look shocked, surprised, etc.) and maybe a little dialogue. Perhaps this tied into a "cover story" about shooting content for a show or comedy thing... I dunno. I'd be *shocked* if he told them up-front that this was for a weird messy fetish. Which feels wrong now.... But again, early 2000s. Things were looser. And Dood never sold these clips himself, so simply throwing up a few screen grabs on Usenet didn't seem so bad.
(I would assume Lenny had the consent forms from all these women for all these clips? If he really did just take Dood's VHS compilation and sell it himself as "payback" for a non-paid custom, well that's a much murkier area. But not my department!)
Later on, Doodmon definitely had some "go-to" girls that he shot repeatedly, usually outdoors in some park area. These early pics are definitely just random women, pied once and never again. Not sure about the salon angle... Maybe he knew the owner and they were cool with him dropping pie on the floor? I'm more amazed by the clips shot inside a department store... How did THAT happen?!?
ANYWAY. Here's a few more pics from vids that haven't really been seen.... I think the well-endowed cutie sitting on a bench (at a college?) was the last pic he put up publicly. My personal fave is the ponytail girl standing outside the store window.... Absolutely adorable, gets well clobbered, real "Mya" vibe to her! (I'm sure she's in her 40s now!)
Nice finds! You don't have the "before" photos for pics 4-6, do you?
I don't know if a youtube vid would be going too far but how about some choice GIFs?
I remember the days of buying vids via snail mail and just didn't want to get burned by some random guy on a fetish forum all those years ago.
Now I regret not acquiring these.
I always wished Lenny had released all of those as he said himself they made more money then the custom cost and Lenny spent ridiculous money on his shoots.
I remember the days of buying vids via snail mail and just didn't want to get burned by some random guy on a fetish forum all those years ago.
Now I regret not acquiring these.
I always wished Lenny had released all of those as he said himself they made more money then the custom cost and Lenny spent ridiculous money on his shoots.
ACE PIE said: I don't know if a youtube vid would be going too far but how about some choice GIFs?
I remember the days of buying vids via snail mail and just didn't want to get burned by some random guy on a fetish forum all those years ago.
Now I regret not acquiring these.
I always wished Lenny had released all of those as he said himself they made more money then the custom cost and Lenny spent ridiculous money on his shoots.
I remember the days of buying vids via snail mail and just didn't want to get burned by some random guy on a fetish forum all those years ago.
Now I regret not acquiring these.
I always wished Lenny had released all of those as he said himself they made more money then the custom cost and Lenny spent ridiculous money on his shoots.
If you're saying you just want to see all of these in general there's actually six of these compilations on excessivemess.com who I think goes by XXXmess on here. If you're specifically talking about those final ones that Rich posted I know that the ponytail girl in front of the store window is actually in compilation #5 in that store
Pieguy25 said:
If you're saying you just want to see all of these in general there's actually six of these compilations on excessivemess.com who I think goes by XXXmess on here. If you're specifically talking about those final ones that Rich posted I know that the ponytail girl in front of the store window is actually in compilation #5 in that store
ACE PIE said: I don't know if a youtube vid would be going too far but how about some choice GIFs?
I remember the days of buying vids via snail mail and just didn't want to get burned by some random guy on a fetish forum all those years ago.
Now I regret not acquiring these.
I always wished Lenny had released all of those as he said himself they made more money then the custom cost and Lenny spent ridiculous money on his shoots.
I remember the days of buying vids via snail mail and just didn't want to get burned by some random guy on a fetish forum all those years ago.
Now I regret not acquiring these.
I always wished Lenny had released all of those as he said himself they made more money then the custom cost and Lenny spent ridiculous money on his shoots.
If you're saying you just want to see all of these in general there's actually six of these compilations on excessivemess.com who I think goes by XXXmess on here. If you're specifically talking about those final ones that Rich posted I know that the ponytail girl in front of the store window is actually in compilation #5 in that store
Yeah I have all of those,the stuff Rich posted is the stuff I've never seen other then the pony tail girl which is on those Lenny scenes.
I always thought Doodmon was actually Anglefan. Learned something new.
I always preferred this type of pie scene over the studio stuff.
On a personal level, I had a chance to pull this off but I chickened out. About 2 weeks after I pied my girlfriend (now wife) for the first time, we were traveling out of state on a road trip. Getting messy was very new to the relationship and she was up for just about anything. I dared her to go into a grocery store and buy 4 pies. We would drive around town and she would ask random people to pie her in the face while I took video. She was going to say it was a lost bet. She was excited to do it and kept asking me to stop at a store so she could go buy the pies. We didn't know anyone in this town. and of course, no one would suspect it was related to a pie fetish. She looked about 20 years old so it would just seem like silly teenager stuff. But of course, to us dudes with a messy fetish, it seems like the whole world knows. She teased me for wimping out, but I just couldn't get up the nerve.
I always preferred this type of pie scene over the studio stuff.
On a personal level, I had a chance to pull this off but I chickened out. About 2 weeks after I pied my girlfriend (now wife) for the first time, we were traveling out of state on a road trip. Getting messy was very new to the relationship and she was up for just about anything. I dared her to go into a grocery store and buy 4 pies. We would drive around town and she would ask random people to pie her in the face while I took video. She was going to say it was a lost bet. She was excited to do it and kept asking me to stop at a store so she could go buy the pies. We didn't know anyone in this town. and of course, no one would suspect it was related to a pie fetish. She looked about 20 years old so it would just seem like silly teenager stuff. But of course, to us dudes with a messy fetish, it seems like the whole world knows. She teased me for wimping out, but I just couldn't get up the nerve.
Endless Summer said: I always thought Doodmon was actually Anglefan. Learned something new.
I always preferred this type of pie scene over the studio stuff.
On a personal level, I had a chance to pull this off but I chickened out. About 2 weeks after I pied my girlfriend (now wife) for the first time, we were traveling out of state on a road trip. Getting messy was very new to the relationship and she was up for just about anything. I dared her to go into a grocery store and buy 4 pies. We would drive around town and she would ask random people to pie her in the face while I took video. She was going to say it was a lost bet. She was excited to do it and kept asking me to stop at a store so she could go buy the pies. We didn't know anyone in this town. and of course, no one would suspect it was related to a pie fetish. She looked about 20 years old so it would just seem like silly teenager stuff. But of course, to us dudes with a messy fetish, it seems like the whole world knows. She teased me for wimping out, but I just couldn't get up the nerve.
I always preferred this type of pie scene over the studio stuff.
On a personal level, I had a chance to pull this off but I chickened out. About 2 weeks after I pied my girlfriend (now wife) for the first time, we were traveling out of state on a road trip. Getting messy was very new to the relationship and she was up for just about anything. I dared her to go into a grocery store and buy 4 pies. We would drive around town and she would ask random people to pie her in the face while I took video. She was going to say it was a lost bet. She was excited to do it and kept asking me to stop at a store so she could go buy the pies. We didn't know anyone in this town. and of course, no one would suspect it was related to a pie fetish. She looked about 20 years old so it would just seem like silly teenager stuff. But of course, to us dudes with a messy fetish, it seems like the whole world knows. She teased me for wimping out, but I just couldn't get up the nerve.
Is it too late? Maybe you guys could rekindle that old spark?
Always looking for friends... So dont be shy.
vision45 said:
Nice finds! You don't have the "before" photos for pics 4-6, do you?
SlapstickStuff said: Take this with a grain of salt, but based on my email convos with Doodmon.... Plus hearing the ACTUAL audio for some of these clips (which you don't get on the Lenny versions)....
I think he was simply a guy who bought some bakery pies, then walked around with a camera and approached attractive women until he found one willing to get pied for money. (Which was probably "good money" for the early 2000s, i.e. $50.)
He would coach them on reactions (look shocked, surprised, etc.) and maybe a little dialogue. Perhaps this tied into a "cover story" about shooting content for a show or comedy thing... I dunno. I'd be *shocked* if he told them up-front that this was for a weird messy fetish. Which feels wrong now.... But again, early 2000s. Things were looser. And Dood never sold these clips himself, so simply throwing up a few screen grabs on Usenet didn't seem so bad.
(I would assume Lenny had the consent forms from all these women for all these clips? If he really did just take Dood's VHS compilation and sell it himself as "payback" for a non-paid custom, well that's a much murkier area. But not my department!)
Later on, Doodmon definitely had some "go-to" girls that he shot repeatedly, usually outdoors in some park area. These early pics are definitely just random women, pied once and never again. Not sure about the salon angle... Maybe he knew the owner and they were cool with him dropping pie on the floor? I'm more amazed by the clips shot inside a department store... How did THAT happen?!?
ANYWAY. Here's a few more pics from vids that haven't really been seen.... I think the well-endowed cutie sitting on a bench (at a college?) was the last pic he put up publicly. My personal fave is the ponytail girl standing outside the store window.... Absolutely adorable, gets well clobbered, real "Mya" vibe to her! (I'm sure she's in her 40s now!)
I think he was simply a guy who bought some bakery pies, then walked around with a camera and approached attractive women until he found one willing to get pied for money. (Which was probably "good money" for the early 2000s, i.e. $50.)
He would coach them on reactions (look shocked, surprised, etc.) and maybe a little dialogue. Perhaps this tied into a "cover story" about shooting content for a show or comedy thing... I dunno. I'd be *shocked* if he told them up-front that this was for a weird messy fetish. Which feels wrong now.... But again, early 2000s. Things were looser. And Dood never sold these clips himself, so simply throwing up a few screen grabs on Usenet didn't seem so bad.
(I would assume Lenny had the consent forms from all these women for all these clips? If he really did just take Dood's VHS compilation and sell it himself as "payback" for a non-paid custom, well that's a much murkier area. But not my department!)
Later on, Doodmon definitely had some "go-to" girls that he shot repeatedly, usually outdoors in some park area. These early pics are definitely just random women, pied once and never again. Not sure about the salon angle... Maybe he knew the owner and they were cool with him dropping pie on the floor? I'm more amazed by the clips shot inside a department store... How did THAT happen?!?
ANYWAY. Here's a few more pics from vids that haven't really been seen.... I think the well-endowed cutie sitting on a bench (at a college?) was the last pic he put up publicly. My personal fave is the ponytail girl standing outside the store window.... Absolutely adorable, gets well clobbered, real "Mya" vibe to her! (I'm sure she's in her 40s now!)
Nice finds! You don't have the "before" photos for pics 4-6, do you?
When you say haven't really been seen, does that mean they are not available anywhere? I have been looking for the clip of the girl on the bench for many years now. I don't see them in any thumbnails from the volumes that are available from Lenny. I like all of these and wouldn't mind purchasing them.
Just clarification that I got all the "unreleased" Dood clips personally from the man himself, which is why they're not publicly for sale anywhere.
TBH Doodmon didn't want ANY of his stuff available for sale.... But something definitely happened with him and Lenny, where the latter just started selling the VHS dub he got from Doodmon on his own site, and I guess that was fine...??
I still don't know the full story. Probably a he said/he said thing, and now that one producer is dead and the other disappeared a decade ago, we'll probably never know either way.
TBH Doodmon didn't want ANY of his stuff available for sale.... But something definitely happened with him and Lenny, where the latter just started selling the VHS dub he got from Doodmon on his own site, and I guess that was fine...??
I still don't know the full story. Probably a he said/he said thing, and now that one producer is dead and the other disappeared a decade ago, we'll probably never know either way.
I received an email circa 2007 from someone claiming to be doodmon (not verified) asking about public stunts. This person did trade some videos for my original collection. Sadly, they were lost in the warehouse fire I have mentioned in the past.
TV production can be unfair
I'm more amazed by the clips shot inside a department store... How did THAT happen?!?
There is only 1 person left on this forum that knows how that happened.
TV production can be unfair
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