Friends of mine will know that one of my dream messy sessions is to be pied in the face 100 times. Any time I talk to someone about it, they always seem surprised and ask me if I am sure I want to be pied that much (I promise I am sure )

But that got me thinking how many pies I would take (or give) at most. Assuming I have all the supplies I could need and I didn't need to worry about time or cleaning up, what is the most pies I would take in one sitting? How many pies would I throw before I was satisfied? The answer may forever avoid us...

So I ask you, the marvelously messy folks of UMD, for your thoughts, opinions, feelings, and fantasies . Whether you love making others messy or you are giddy to be gunged, where would your realistic limit be for a session that you would still enjoy? If there is such thing as too much mess, where is that line for you?

You can never have too much mess, the more the merrier, if your UK based Id happily meet up with you and pie you 100 times although Id expect revenge.

I'd first of all say that I'm not into pies - and I do wonder if with pies it's more about the actual act of pieing than the after-effects, which might mean there is no upper limit. But with other types of mess, there's an obvious break point when the subject is completely covered. For me, a lot of the excitement is about "ruining" clean clothing, clean flesh etc and once everything is thoroughly dirty there's less to be gained by just adding more mess. One way to prolong it a bit is with progressively "dirtier" messes, for example starting with eggs, then flour, then molasses, but by then the subject looks so thoroughly "ruined" that more mess isn't going to make much difference - so we might as well just get on with the sex

For me, the mess is all about sexuality. I'd want to start with a female partner looking sexy, meaning hair, makeup and clothing all sexy choices. She would then get progressively more messy and perhaps begin removing items of clothing until she might be laying in a six inch deep pool of mess. The dream would be if she were to sensually roll around in it, smearing her hands over her body. So my take is partially visual and partially sensual, and the amount of mess is always best when it's a lot. In practical terms that means more money invested in the mess and more work to clean it up and dispose of it. So I mostly just dream about it.

Where are yiu in the ukas yo7 can pie me 100 times and I would gladly pie you back

I'd agree with the point that once someone is totally and comprehensively covered in mess from head to toe and front to back, there's not really much to be gained from adding more. For me it's very much about seeing the process as they go from completely dry and clean and pristine, through lots of stages of getting messier and messier, until they end up utterly drenched in mess. I prefer the messings to be relatively slow, gradually adding more and more, and seeing their clothes slowly suffer as the mess builds up. Once every stitch is completely covered, along with their hair and boots, and any grand finale items like final buckets poured on has happened, there's not much to be gained from adding more mess.

With mud, they can still have fun rolling and slding and slopping about even after completely covered so there it does make sense to keep going a bit past the "all covered" stage, plus of course mud is an infintite resource, it's not as if we're wasting it by carrying on rolling in it. But even there, after five of ten minutes of totally covered play, it makes sense to call it - unless the weather is really hot in which case it can be nice to just drift off to sleep in the mud's embrace.

So overall, yes, I think there is such a thing as too much mess, but only after someone is totally and utterly drenched in it - as long as any part of them is still clean, keep going.

I am a US-based clown, so I sadly cannot take you up on this offer

But good to know I am not alone in my insanity of no-limits messing

For me, after-effects are a big part of using pies (it's why I go with shaving foam, cause I love the look after and how it builds up) but you are spot on that the act of pieing also matters a lot, I can understand how different messy mediums would approach this type of question differently


That makes a lot of sense and I can imagine that lends itself pretty nicely to the sexual tension of the session escalating too!

The mess having a slow build up is one of my favorite parts actually and I think your quote is an answer worth framing

The conversations above make me think of another question too. Does the number of people participating change the answer? I can't speak for anyone else, but my own difficulties in finding IRL wam play mates makes the dream of a session with multiple people no more than a dream. But I am curious if anyone who has had the opportunity to experience more of a group dynamic and feels like it's different than a solo session or a one-on-one.

When Mrs FB gets to the point where she's a complete slop covered blob and can't get any messier I usually tell her she can get clean and wipe off as much as she can, often on the pretence that's it's all over, then I'll trash her with the filthy mixed up slop over and over again until she pretty much gives up. Then I'll trash her a few more times for good measure. That way you can prolong the point of "too much mess'.

That's always a good gag!