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"Wonder what happened to those models?"
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flank said:
I'm not a producer, but a couple of thoughts on that:
a) The producers didn't know in advance which scenes/models would be popular. E.g. SlapstickStuff has mentioned a few times that Shelley's videos didn't sell as well as he'd hoped.
b) It depends when a model's available. E.g. she might only be in town for a couple of weeks before flying out to a different state.
pie_sandwich_fan said: I also do not understand the fact that why some producers shot just few scenes with these models, when it was known that these scenes would sell in great volumes.....
I'm not a producer, but a couple of thoughts on that:
a) The producers didn't know in advance which scenes/models would be popular. E.g. SlapstickStuff has mentioned a few times that Shelley's videos didn't sell as well as he'd hoped.
b) It depends when a model's available. E.g. she might only be in town for a couple of weeks before flying out to a different state.
Can be even simpler than that - producer didn't have the money to shoot any more with that model at the time she was available. Looking back now I wish I'd shot more with Veronica, but at the time I was short of cash, I shot as many scenes as I could afford.
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pie_sandwich_fan said: By the time I started earning money, discovered umd and other messy download stores, developed taste for my favourite models, learnt that I can purchase scenes and even request custom scenes, have courage to ask producers for the custom, these models had vanished/retired.....I always get frustrated by this thought.....I would have requested tons of custom videos from these models and producers and emptied my wallet, but............life is so unfair...sigh...
But I am still hopeful that someday my dream/wish will become true....
But I am still hopeful that someday my dream/wish will become true....
We actually ALL have these regrets! Even us producers!
A few years before I started shooting, I commissioned a custom with Lenny and a model he brought in only once... Jill Cannon. (I assume NOT her real name.) Super cute, amazing body. The scene came out... fine.... but even 5 years later, I would've simply hired her myself and shot content that (ideally) would've been more in line with my own tastes.
I've also mentioned to WAMTEC a couple times that I would've loved to shoot with Keely, who did a ton of work for them in the '90s but stopped by the early '00s.
pie_sandwich_fan said:I also do not understand the fact that why some producers shot just few scenes with these models, when it was known that these scenes would sell in great volumes.....
This is an easy one: Models are human beings, with their own wants & needs & goals & tastes. Just because myself or ANY producer wants to shoot more content with them doesn't mean it's gonna happen.
And it's incredibly frustrating when a model is great on camera and has a really good time and I KNOW she's gonna sell well.... But honestly, I would shoot with her regardless because she's such a fun hang.
And then she does something CRAZY like.... Having a kid! Or quitting modeling for real estate!
Believe me, I can name 20 models off the top of my head that I only shot once but would've gladly shot multiple times, and of course all of them were great sellers to boot.... But life didn't work out that way. I rationalize it by thinking I was lucky to shoot them once, as I would've completely missed the "window" even a couple months later.
Anglefan's Alexia is the one who I always wondered about. Still some of my favorite videos.
another spin-off thought, which I'd thought about yesterday but another thread reinforced this is the question of
How did they get into WAM modelling in the first place?
some examples could be
1) Just for fun.
Either solo, or with a partner (who may have introduced them) they shared some pics and maybe homemade clips.
Possibly someone suggested monetising, or they felt they needed something back given how much people were asking/expecting for them (sure! I will totally do your suggestion that costs $100 - could you maybe, help with the cost though?!) and anyway... it stopped being fun. They left.
2) Working as a model in general
and either came across the idea and possibly approached a producer, or were approached, perhaps if someone went to an agency
in some cases it may well be that it wasn't for them (even if they did it once or twice) or they moved onto other stuff which either paid better or they enjoyed more - or whatever
3) Adult Performer
which is very common, there's an awful lot of people who do some other type of adult content which have been booked/paid for splosh - and some get very into it - but for others it may well just be a "this isn't my main shtick, I will do more if you book me but I will focus on my wrestling / OF / Domination / submission work primarily"
4) Friend / Non Performer / Someone in need of cash
There was a guy who pulled all of his videos down on here and while some of his stuff was alright - he had basically been approaching people on websites and presumably offering them cash for content - something which may have preyed slightly on financial situation. They may not have even realised it was pornographic in nature (just a 'funny video') which would actually also make those clips illegal since the forms need to specify that the user is aware they are filming adult content for upload/distribution/etc.
But anyway, the potential here (and in others) is wider consequences if scenes become popular and the person wasn't aware of the nature/popularity of splosh
nearly all of those ins have a natural out - aside from any career change in general, or being sick of any creeps or weirdos.
How did they get into WAM modelling in the first place?
some examples could be
1) Just for fun.
Either solo, or with a partner (who may have introduced them) they shared some pics and maybe homemade clips.
Possibly someone suggested monetising, or they felt they needed something back given how much people were asking/expecting for them (sure! I will totally do your suggestion that costs $100 - could you maybe, help with the cost though?!) and anyway... it stopped being fun. They left.
2) Working as a model in general
and either came across the idea and possibly approached a producer, or were approached, perhaps if someone went to an agency
in some cases it may well be that it wasn't for them (even if they did it once or twice) or they moved onto other stuff which either paid better or they enjoyed more - or whatever
3) Adult Performer
which is very common, there's an awful lot of people who do some other type of adult content which have been booked/paid for splosh - and some get very into it - but for others it may well just be a "this isn't my main shtick, I will do more if you book me but I will focus on my wrestling / OF / Domination / submission work primarily"
4) Friend / Non Performer / Someone in need of cash
There was a guy who pulled all of his videos down on here and while some of his stuff was alright - he had basically been approaching people on websites and presumably offering them cash for content - something which may have preyed slightly on financial situation. They may not have even realised it was pornographic in nature (just a 'funny video') which would actually also make those clips illegal since the forms need to specify that the user is aware they are filming adult content for upload/distribution/etc.
But anyway, the potential here (and in others) is wider consequences if scenes become popular and the person wasn't aware of the nature/popularity of splosh
nearly all of those ins have a natural out - aside from any career change in general, or being sick of any creeps or weirdos.
Nein said:
Holy shit, am I the only one going to notice SusanP came back to make a perfect thread comment?
SusanP said: I would like to think we finally used our college education
Holy shit, am I the only one going to notice SusanP came back to make a perfect thread comment?
Dang. Beat me to it. I'd think that the economy was doing so well these models no longer have to resort to fetish work......... Ok, I assume most models either move up or genuinely are only doing WAM because they're getting paid and are tired of all the clean up. Tbh, I made a profile on a fetish site over 10 years ago and a girl from work opened up to be saying that a "friend" found me and told her about me. We're supposed to do some dominatrix stuff in the future. She's married and not to me. A little odd but believe it or not that .1% thing applies to me now.
And of course........ welcome back Susan! For however long it may last.....
Alumi said:
This has me scratching my head and hoping I've misunderstood Mr. Pies' comment. But it sounds like you're saying that, because she has modeled in some fetish videos, it's unlikely she could currently have a job in the arts world. Is that what you're implying?
Mr_Pies said:
LOL! Based on the pics I've seen of her showing her tits all tied up in a chair with duck tape over her mouth, I would say, very unlikely!!!
juliesboy said: ...in relation to Angelfan's famed Art Student, Vanessa. Here's hoping she's making a living in the arts world somewhere, somehow.
LOL! Based on the pics I've seen of her showing her tits all tied up in a chair with duck tape over her mouth, I would say, very unlikely!!!
This has me scratching my head and hoping I've misunderstood Mr. Pies' comment. But it sounds like you're saying that, because she has modeled in some fetish videos, it's unlikely she could currently have a job in the arts world. Is that what you're implying?
Sounds more like Mr Pies has seen a performance piece, probably called something like "The Plight Of The Proletariat In The Face Of The Ochlocracy", or maybe "Sunflowers Part 2".
Am intrigued as to how one ties one's tits in a chair though. Presumably it has slats?
