Yes!!! That's exactly it!!


Again - spot-on! I've always found it a bit like a strangely 'split personality'. When I look in the mirror, I can either see a big tall bloke in a frock ... or, if I'm thinking in a slightly different way, a sexy babe who doesn't mind 'letting her hands wander a bit' and willingly does the things I'd like to do to a sexy CIS woman who is dressed in those clothes too.

It's slightly different between looking in the mirror 'live' and looking at a picture that's been captured. I was just looking at a picture of 'Lizzie' that a friend took recently at a very friendly little hippy-style festival where nobody minds what you wear (if anything at all in some cases!). Again, it's really weird in that I know it's me but from the boobs downwards, I'm seeing "sexy supermodel", while from the boobs upwards, I'm seeing "a granny"!!! (Rather a disturbing mix, I have to say! LoL.)

I've wondered whether it's a similar thing to girls who have anorexia. When they look in the mirror, they 'see' someone who is overweight, even though they're often painfully underweight.

Wouldn't it be great to get a load of CD wammers together, and create some awesome content!

Does anyone like the idea of wearing fur coats in crossdressing and getting gunged in wam

I'd happily make that happen, if it wasn't for the sheer cost of a good coat!

Another thought..... I have already commented how, for me, it is important to be smartly dressed, made-up, and with jewellery and accessories before being warmed. I also much prefer to be pied/gunged/trashed by someone else. Self-wamming just isn't the same. I think it is partly to do with the humiliation of being at another's mercy, and also the anticipation of watching someone holding a pie or tin of baked beans and not knowing were it is going to end up.......except you know for certainty it will be on you!

While this is still getting some attention, can I ask for some help or advice?

I've just 'repaired' some heels that I bought off eBay. They were really cheap, so I wasn't expecting much, but they really are terrible Where can I find a pair of well-made size 11 [UK] shoes that will stand up to a bit of abuse in a pool or at the beach?

Happy to spend a sensible amount, but I've not really found anywhere that sells what I'm after.

B. xx.

OK, here's a comment from a NON cross-dresser.

When I started to discover wam when I was about 18 or 19, I longed to see women getting messy, and tried to imagine how such a woman might feel. So at times, I'd put on a t-shirt and maybe have a couple of balloons inside of it so I could at least pretend that I was seeing a woman wamming in the mirror. I think this continued for some time, with me experimenting with various fabrics and noticing how they would feel when messy. Perhaps this is why I'm not interested in face mess, as I was unable to do that early on without spoiling the illusion.

Eventually I discovered the MessyFun website and actual photos and videos of real women getting messy, so this replaced the semi-cross-dressing I had been doing. Now I'm married to an amazing woman who also loves wam and we get to play in messy ways whenever we like.

But I just thought I'd share my earlier experiences, as they were sort of leaning towards cross-dressing for awhile, and related to this thread.

This would be awesome! Get all dolled up and then get each other trashed!

Yes!! I love the idea of playing with Nutella! Especially panty or tights filling!

Oh it is, believe me!

Best is to wear 2 or 3 pairs and slowly fill up between the layers with something sloppy like modelling clay that's been whipped in water so that it's like really thick and sloppy emulsion paint that will just about tip out of a jug in big plops.

You can then feel the layers sliding around over each other in the panty section as you squat down and stand up, while the gloop sinks southwards. It's a feeling unlike anything you've ever experienced.

I have always had a leather/ pvc/ latex fetish as well and only recently got interested in the thought of cross dressing. Next week I am going to cross dress for the first time and I am going to mix wam with it in the process! I can't wait to see whats in store and I'm so glad this thread exists to see I, like so many of you too are not alone. The thought of it is thrilling and I've had more fun than I'd admit trying to pick out what to wear and what to get messy with!

I so agree with Quarryman on this, walking back after a muddy session in a calf-length dress is a wonderful feeling. (And one I have enjoyed several times - mostly late at night!)

I love to practice both of them too.
If I can, I want to play with paint or every substance related to wam while I am crossdressing as a Japanese School Girl or cosplaying as animate character

I have been into wam since about 7 or 8 years old but the cding interest started about 15 16 years old. I have found it interesting what it would feel like to get messy as a female being dressed up nicely and getting gunged. Over the years the cravings for cding wam come and go but with living conditions opportunity is rare to do it. As a straight male I love to just get messy as myself however I have found over the years that I find it more enjoyable and sexual to get messy cross dressed. Cross dressing isn't a lifestyle for me but just fun and enjoyable pastime. As niche as it maybe on the grand scheme of things there are a fair few people who share the same likes