I recently stumbled across a professional model on Facebook, and turns out she's quite good, and did a photoshoot where she gets pelted with several shaving cream pies. Her expressions are great, and the coverage is awesome.
Do any of you have examples of professional models getting WAMed, but not for the purposes of creating fetish content?
This surfaced on here about 3 years ago. Pics are even older than that.
My own 2 cents: There is no way this photographer did NOT have some kind of WAM interest, though I guarantee he never mentioned that to this model. They shot many times together, but there are several separate WAM shoots scattered in there, so I suspect he felt secure enough to suggest the "concept" to her.
I did reach out to him privately, hoping I could possibly see more of his footage, but he pleaded ignorance about... well, everything. So I didn't bother him again. Certainly there are guys out there in denial about their WAM urges, just like with any sexual kink, and while it's a shame to know he's sitting on a lot of content none of us will see, the stuff we DID get was nice.
Anyway, I wouldn't call this "mainstream" as much as a WAM shoot not promoted as such.
Breslowlab said: there is more of her as well. There is something so much more exciting when the wam is in mainstream! good find
I absolutely LOVE the chocolate pudding pies, pied body/face, and red lingerie. The chocolate pies especially remind me of the old College Madhouse vids. Hard to find really great scenes with edible cool whip and pudding...seems like the scenes I notice are either shaving cream and pudding or runny chocolate syrup and cool whip (granted, also a favorite of mine). Plus, she seems to be having a blast here.
Shoots like this make me wish for more PROFESSIONAL Photographers/Videographers shooting WAM/Fetish content for WAM/Enthusiasts, as opposed to more WAM/Fetish Enthusiasts trying to be Professional Photographers/Videographers themselves and not really hitting that particular bar.
This is not a diss on any producer (past, present, or future) it's just that sometimes great ideas are sadly limited by Cost, Equipment, Experience, and Level of Skill.
I find it interesting that some folks will pay Hundreds or even Thousands on Models, Supplies, Equipment, and yet we rarely talk about hiring some professional talent to best capture certain scenes.
That said, there are a certain special few who have been doing it for so long they've almost perfected the practice and become professionals themselves (you know who you are).
I just continue to shake my head sadly at low-res, no-lighting, shaky-cam, blurry and unfocused attempts to capture great ideas which come out somewhat disappointing.
So thanks for posting these gems. It's a rare treat these days - as I miss the modeling Photosets with Posed Messy Photos. Thanks!
Breslowlab said: there is more of her as well. There is something so much more exciting when the wam is in mainstream! good find
I didn't even think to keep scrolling! Thanks for pointing out that there was more. Adding the rest here for everyone else.
The last photo of the 3rd shoot is a collage, hoping to find either a higher-res version of it, or the individual pictures. It's pretty impossible to make anything out of it
1/18/22, 3:02am: 21 images removed after admin review
We did contact this model a while back and ask if she would be willing to do more messy shoots like those, but for us. She told us thanks for the offer, but she was trying to stay in mainstream modeling so it could lead into acting. Looks like she realized what she did for this guy was a fetish and thought she better stop right there with it.
Breslowlab said: there is more of her as well. There is something so much more exciting when the wam is in mainstream! good find
I didn't even think to keep scrolling! Thanks for pointing out that there was more. Adding the rest here for everyone else.
The last photo of the 3rd shoot is a collage, hoping to find either a higher-res version of it, or the individual pictures. It's pretty impossible to make anything out of it
These missing images are killing me - killing me, I say.
Zan said: Shoots like this make me wish for more PROFESSIONAL Photographers/Videographers shooting WAM/Fetish content for WAM/Enthusiasts, as opposed to more WAM/Fetish Enthusiasts trying to be Professional Photographers/Videographers themselves and not really hitting that particular bar.
This is not a diss on any producer (past, present, or future) it's just that sometimes great ideas are sadly limited by Cost, Equipment, Experience, and Level of Skill.
I find it interesting that some folks will pay Hundreds or even Thousands on Models, Supplies, Equipment, and yet we rarely talk about hiring some professional talent to best capture certain scenes.
That said, there are a certain special few who have been doing it for so long they've almost perfected the practice and become professionals themselves (you know who you are).
I just continue to shake my head sadly at low-res, no-lighting, shaky-cam, blurry and unfocused attempts to capture great ideas which come out somewhat disappointing.
So thanks for posting these gems. It's a rare treat these days - as I miss the modeling Photosets with Posed Messy Photos. Thanks!
Every successful professional started off taking low-res, shaky, etc. attempts at what they eventually become great at. What you're asking WAM videographers to do is go through the process of becoming a professional--which inherently costs thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars along the way--without making a fraction of it back, because few people buy WAM clips and even fewer buy clips from obvious amateurs.
Or hire the professionals, who cost closer to five figures than four, to again not get anything back from their investment beside a few nice comments from people who "appreciate" the free content. It would be great if the hottest models in the world got pied by the most skilled photographers using the most sophisticated equipment in the most beautiful studios. But most enthusiasts are just guys with cell phones and a girlfriend, so thanks to them.
TheSpecialist said: Every successful professional started off taking low-res, shaky, etc. attempts at what they eventually become great at. What you're asking WAM videographers to do is go through the process of becoming a professional--which inherently costs thousands or even tens of thousands of dollars along the way--without making a fraction of it back, because few people buy WAM clips and even fewer buy clips from obvious amateurs.
Or hire the professionals, who cost closer to five figures than four, to again not get anything back from their investment beside a few nice comments from people who "appreciate" the free content. It would be great if the hottest models in the world got pied by the most skilled photographers using the most sophisticated equipment in the most beautiful studios. But most enthusiasts are just guys with cell phones and a girlfriend, so thanks to them.
First, Make no mistake, I'm not asking anybody to do anything. I said I WISH there were more professionally skilled talents making the kind of stuff we all enjoy. ie - The photos above, which are of a caliber that only come along every once in a Blue Moon.
Second, I'm not telling anyone to stop making anything (amateur or otherwise) Some of the best stuff these days is being made by WAM couples alongside their coterie of Model/Friends. Much of which is of the highest quality. (Even considering limited budgets)
Third, While I'm not saying I expect anyone to try and become a professional... I just find it interesting that in the calculus of making a WAM production, where you've gone to the trouble/expense of hiring models, purchasing/prepping supplies, investing in high-end equipment... after all that, many won't also take the time to learn about necessary things like lighting, f-stops, shutter speeds, and white balance to at least try and net a decent result.
Again, I'm not an authority here, just one WAM fan expressing an opinion.
Zan said: Third, While I'm not saying I expect anyone to try and become a professional... I just find it interesting that in the calculus of making a WAM production, where you've gone to the trouble/expense of hiring models, purchasing/prepping supplies, investing in high-end equipment... after all that, many won't also take the time to learn about necessary things like lighting, f-stops, shutter speeds, and white balance to at least try and net a decent result.
Again, I'm not an authority here, just one WAM fan expressing an opinion.
I understand. And speaking from experience, you learn about the exposure triangle, white balance, fill light, why you can't trust Fujifilm to autofocus moving subjects even though they have great color science dammit, etc. only after you've invested the money to learn those are problems. We don't know what we don't know. So we start by using our old iPhones and household lighting, see something is wrong, get professional lights, hear crappy audio, buy a boom mic, and so forth and so on until thousands of dollars is already spent. Then you have to keep practicing, hiring more models, buying more pie shells and...
Well, I'm not trying to be mean. Just saying, learning costs. And when you make only a few bucks a download, that cost hurts.