One thing I noticed when being able to watch scenes I didn't think I would like (since they're literally all in the same place) ~ Well, turns out many of those clips were unexpectedly awesome! It's just mind-blowing seeing the whole collection, such an impressive culmination of talent and hard work.
Supporting a site like this should be a no brainer! =)
Just to reiterate how brilliant this site/general idea is, I've gone through my WAM collection of Mostwam/GTG/Justpied etc. and freed up around 10GB of space on my laptop
It's all backed up externally if the worst was to happen, but it's still nice to free up that amount of space.
leonmoomin said: We have the stores and we have the streaming site.
This is good feedback though, it is what will help me decide what to do with my stores. I will continue to update them, but with a gap as we used to with our old membership site.
Would love to hear from the people that have joined the new site, what has their streaming experience been like?
Thanks folks.
Hi there, I love to support you guys and think this is an interesting idea so I signed up for a month. I maybe missing something but I can't seem to fast forward or rewind the vids ?
There are controls on the player, you need to contact me by PM or e-mail so I can go more into depth about this and contact our support staff if necessary.
Decided (despite wariness) to give it a shot, interesting enough idea, but a number of clips, mostly 2015-2016 GTG clips are unbearably laggy. I have never had an issue with lag on any other streaming service, but I have yet to be able to play a GTG clip without several minutes of lagging or restarting. I know it might not be fair to compare it to something with the resources of Netflix, but if you're launching a streaming site that is the standard you will inevitably be compared against. I doubt I will renew.
Duffman said: Decided (despite wariness) to give it a shot, interesting enough idea, but a number of clips, mostly 2015-2016 GTG clips are unbearably laggy. I have never had an issue with lag on any other streaming service, but I have yet to be able to play a GTG clip without several minutes of lagging or restarting. I know it might not be fair to compare it to something with the resources of Netflix, but if you're launching a streaming site that is the standard you will inevitably be compared against. I doubt I will renew.
Hey Duffman
Was it just the latest GTGs? I haven't heard anyone else say this yet, there are international servers for our service so it shouldn't be lagging anywhere?
The latest GTG2016ep01 was a completely different format to the old ones Full HD 1080p, so may expect an issue or two there, but all the other GTG's are the same types of files as everything else HD 720p.
Did you try turning the player to medium quality?
Anyone else having streaming issues? Not noticed any here.
Duffman said: Decided (despite wariness) to give it a shot, interesting enough idea, but a number of clips, mostly 2015-2016 GTG clips are unbearably laggy. I have never had an issue with lag on any other streaming service, but I have yet to be able to play a GTG clip without several minutes of lagging or restarting. I know it might not be fair to compare it to something with the resources of Netflix, but if you're launching a streaming site that is the standard you will inevitably be compared against. I doubt I will renew.
Hey Duffman
Was it just the latest GTGs? I haven't heard anyone else say this yet, there are international servers for our service so it shouldn't be lagging anywhere?
The latest GTG2016ep01 was a completely different format to the old ones Full HD 1080p, so may expect an issue or two there, but all the other GTG's are the same types of files as everything else HD 720p.
Did you try turning the player to medium quality?
Anyone else having streaming issues? Not noticed any here.
From what I've checked out today, no issues with Justslimed or Justpied or Wamthroughyou clips, but about 75% of the time I'm getting long halt/lag times on the GTG 2015 clips, especially if I try to manually go to a different part of the video more than twice. On several occasions in the longer 40+ minute clips I've had the video stop on the 7-8 minute mark and just sit there for 2-3 minutes, even though the grey progress bar is 2/3 or more complete.
Medium quality reduces the issue somewhat, shorter wait times but the halts still occur.
leonmoomin said: The latest GTG2016ep01 was a completely different format to the old ones Full HD 1080p, so may expect an issue or two there, but all the other GTG's are the same types of files as everything else HD 720p.
1080p but at what frame rate, Leon? 1080p/25 and 720p/50 are both sampled at 74.25MHz, giving a data rate (uncompressed) of 1.485Gbps so should perform roughly the same. (The 720p/50 should be slightly better because the residual errors in the encoding from frame to frame will be lower because the distance travelled by a moving object across the screen will be half that of a p/25 image, so fewer motion estimation errors will accrue.)
However, 1080p/50 (i.e. double the frame rate of 1080p/25) will require around 3Gbps (uncompressed), with a correspondingly approximate doubling of the encoded version compared with 1080p/25, too, so this might account for the problem.
Remember that, for rapid movement, you're better off at 50fps than 25 if you're in progressive mode but that i/25 will fool the eye into a 50Hz refresh, albeit at half the resolution per field, with the two fields making up the full frame. Thus, any movement in i/25 will have feathered (double) edges on non-CRT displays.
p/25 will tend to give 'film look' (i.e. juddery motion, especially if you fail to perform temporal low-pass filtering by using a 'shutter speed' (integration time or exposure time) shorter than half the frame time period, i.e. 1/50sec max for 25fps).
The EBU recommendation back in 2004 was for p/50 emission (i.e. 720p/50, as that's all we could manage then). To most viewers, a rapidly moving image at 720p/50 is *perceived* to be better image quality than one at 1080p/25 (or, on a progressive display device (i.e. not CRT) 1080i/25 which attempts to deinterlace the i/25 fields into a single frame (which is, of course, mathematically impossible except for a static image)).
A static image (not very exciting telly!) or slow moving subject will look better on 1080 whether p or i and 25 or 50fps - but most WAM tends to have fast moving objects (gunge flying etc.) Thus, 720p/50 tends to win out for emission.
1080p/50 is certainly the best format for *production* but the higher data rate makes it impractical for *emission*. However, near perfect standards conversion allows 1080p/50 to be downconverted almost losslessly to 720p/50 or 1080p/25 or 1080i/25 or even SD (625 line aka 576i/25).
I have found that extra frame rates can cause some people some issues.
50 fps would be nice, but with all the varying devices and specs, we always kept to a standard 25 fps 720p wmv for all our videos, as we found with that format that no one had any issues playing them, well, provided their windows codecs were up to date.
Nearly all the media on the new site has gone up in that format or higher, anything lower than that is being re-encoded as we speak (To the usual 25 fps 720p wmvs) and should help boost the regular new content to the site.
Newer content from this year is going up in larger formats, with which, I'm still experimenting.
I have found that extra frame rates can cause some people some issues.
I have to say that that does seem unlikely insofar as there's no recognised standard for 720p/25. There's only ever been 720p/50. It could be that you're throwing away half the frames from 720p/50 during some sort of weird encoding process, I suppose.
However, if you *have* moved from 720p/25 to to 1080p/25 then you've roughly doubled the required datarate so that could explain the problem too.
There is actually no rhyme or reason for Duffman's issue, other than perhaps the video durations? The videos he is talking about are the same kbps, size, frame rate etc?
In 2009 we experimented with loads of different compressions for our videos, the one we picked gave us the least amount of issues, with the best picture quality downloadable from our Mothership server, everything we did was based on our customer feedback. I think that today the format still looks quite good, but could be better now.
I think it would be helpful if the screen caps in catalog are more similar to those in the download store? - giving a better sense of what the girls are wearing before having to click into the scene?
That would significantly improve my experience finding what I want that day!