CreamMeAgain said: Hello! A lot of great responses on this thread. If you are questioning your feelings about your fetish, then you're totally healthy. It's important to have these conversations with yourself and to know yourself better. Sex is still considered very taboo and depending on your religious background, sex is considered a very shameful act. No one here can really tell you how to feel comfortable with what you're experiencing, because we're all here for a different reason and we all have a different origin story. I can tell you my story and maybe that will help you.
I'm convinced I've been a wammer since I was born. When I first saw it on TV at the age of 4, I was immediately fascinated and obsessed. It became more sexually oriented the older I got. My entire childhood has been abusive and traumatic. I've been through 20 years of therapy and I'm still really fucked up. For me, it was my sexuality that really changed my life for the better. I've been mentally and emotionally abused, sexually abused and assaulted, by my family and by kids I went to school with. I had no escape from the abuse in my life at one point. For me, WAM has been a very healthy way to empower myself to like and enjoy sex. I like the humiliation aspect of this fetish. I enjoy being humiliated. Does it come from a dark place? No. I'm acting out scenarios where I'm confronting my fears and choosing to have a positive outcome from it. Instead of feeling humiliated, I feel turned on, and having an orgasm is a reward for that. For me this fetish is a way of having more power over a negative emotion that has oppressed me, now it liberates me. I was abused by sex, now I enjoy sex, I have sex on my own terms and this fetish was absolutely important for that. It's a safe and healthy way for me to act out humiliation and enjoy it. Before this fetish, I would go to a much darker place with my pain and suffering, I was suicidal. So I personally believe there are much worse things we could be doing to ourselves than covering ourselves with food. I hope this has been helpful for you or anyone who's having a hard time. If you are not enjoying yourself and you're having more negative experience than positive experience then take a break and maybe seek professional guidance. There are sex therapists that specialize in helping with this exact thing that can be very helpful. Hope you find the answers you're looking for.
^^^^^ THIS ^^^^
A healthy, caring response from an open, out front hammer
Bobographer said I once had a really good psychologist who said as far as fetishes go, WAM is the mildest, safest one he had heard of. He went on to say that a very large percentage of mostly men have some form of fetish and that it's perfectly healthy, as long as it doesn't harm anyone. And that's exactly how I feel about it.
Totally agree with that. The psychologists who just use simple common sense seem to be the best ones. Conversely, those who rely on (or produce) far-out theories in pedantic, peer-reviewed publications tend to rub me the wrong way. Of course this may be my own acknowledged prejudice.
The biggest relevant psychological issue is probably "shame." But as long as you're not harming anyone, I see no more reason to be ashamed than a coin collector or postcard collector should be ashamed about their obsessive hobbies. It's just a very niche interest. If it makes you happy, who cares what people think? If others don't understand it, maybe they weren't meant to.
So my biggest concern is there may some psychologists who view such harmless interests as "disorders," or things that need to be "cured." If anyone ever comes across a "professional" who even approaches that outlook, please RUN far in the other direction! As long as you're harming nobody, there's nothing wrong in having an intense interest in something a bit uncommon. It's in our differences, after all, that make us unique, beautiful, and special.
mudngunge said: BUT, I do think most WAMmers I've known or met have some personality problems. But since it's not the WAM itself, it's probably more a side-effect of living a lifetime of sexual repression and lies. Again, lesson to me is to say no to the shame and guilt or whatever is behind the sexual repression.
You're not wrong. A LOT of people have problems and have had different ones for as long as human nature has been around. Mud play as a fetish is perhaps uncommon. But look over history at what has been "common" in the past. Murdering other people for amusement was "normal" in the Roman Empire. Gladiatorial games were to them as common as football (either American or European style) is today. Ghengis Khan's warriors played polo with the severed heads of his enemies. And I won't even start to get into what the Aztecs considered "common".
So "common" in human history isn't always what its cracked up to be. And playing in the mud (or food, or whatever your preference) in your clothes, whether cheap out-of-date but once formal fashion wear from the thrift shop, or even brand new, expensive clothing bought just to destroy the first time you put it on (so long as it's your money paying for it) may not be considered "common" but there are FAR worse traits in human nature that have been indulged by humanity under the flags or banners of one type or another.
So if it makes you (and the person you are sharing it with, if anyone) happy to have fun, then don't worry about what society wants to tell you what THEY "allow" or not. The last couple of decades of the trend in modern civilization to long for submission to "Authority" has brought on much of the angst that we see the effects of today. Technology has brought us a lot of things like here, but it has also brought us things like facebook, twitter, and other echo-chamber subsets of web locations that encourage the idea of acceptance through kowtowing to those who profit from control of others for their own agenda. Don't submit to something that against who YOU are, because rarely does anything good come from it for YOU; only for the ones demanding that you MUST do so or you are a Bad person, Abnormal, Uncommon... against the NORM.
If WAM is your way of rebelling against some of that, then good. Hell; even if it is just YOUR way of finding some Joy in your life that is NOT in serving someone Else's "common" ideas, then don't let it stress you out and DON'T let anyone else guilt you into submission for THEIR demands. Because there will always be someone, some group, some ideology that insists that their "cure" or their "cause" or their political agenda only will work if EVERYONE ELSE is FORCED to accept it, to submit to it, to take their poison, and to publicly embrace it as their own truth even if they don't agree.
If you want something to resist, resist that. Be the fly in the ointment; be the monkey in the wrench. Be YOU. And if a part of you is WAM, then let that be.