As an experienced WAM model I've perfected the art of keeping my eyes shut and embracing the mess all over my face. But I've gotten requests to wear googles in my videos.
For me it depends on context. I certainly have a higher tolerance for them than most here do. For instance if it's a gameshow, putting on goggles can really build up the anticipation. There's something special too about the context of disregarding the victim's hair and clothes and the floor around them, but still protecting their eyes. Protecting their eyes ends up drawing attention to how exposed everything else is, as they sit and squirm, waiting for the dousing that may or may not come.
(Obviously eyes should not be specifically targeted). But many fine pies have been taken in the face without goggles, and it is vastly preferable for a pie to be thrown without the recipient wearing goggles, IMHO.
Small goggles are fine and generally it depends on the context, sometimes they can make a model pop, and if it makes them more willing to embrace the mess then that's a pro too. If they cover half the face though they generally don't do much for me. Basically I'm fine with them if they don't stop the quantity and quality of mess and just protect the eyes.
I usually request them in my customs because I don't like to see anyone's eyes irritated and their subsequent visible discomfort during a scene. Also, I'm not a fan when a model wipes the majority of her face in an effort to clear her eyes. Goggles (especially the small ones) often eliminate that, meaning their faces usually stay messier. The whole game show thing holds true for me too.
Yep, pretty much the same as the comments before. Two of my four vids have had goggles because they remind me of the game shows that I grew up on, and I also hate getting shit in my eyes.
I'm a fan of swimming goggles. It's part of the whole swimwear look and there's something I can't quite put my finger on about seeing someone put them one and getting gunged.
mud_and_custard said: I'm a fan of swimming goggles. It's part of the whole swimwear look and there's something I can't quite put my finger on about seeing someone put them one and getting gunged.
What about a sexy lifeguard coming out of the pool only to fall into a mud pit.
I've personally never liked goggles, maybe it goes back to watching wwyd and people wearing goggles in the pie pod, if goggles HAVE to be worn, then the swimmer goggles that just basically cover the eyes is the best case scenario to me, but I'd rather none at all, especially if they're like the big ones that cover most of the face, I'd rather see a full facial sliming with nothing blocking the face or keeping it clean, that's just me though
It's really depends on the substance, it's just a protection
I did tried to play with oatmeal and something went in to the eye for a few days, luckily I can get it out, but after that I brought a goggles just to protect my eyes
it does feels different comparing you can see or you can't see, I prefer goggles as I can really see how messy I am because I don't record my section.
I'm more about clothed body wam than head wam, so if the outfit and camera angles are right, I'm not bothered if the recipient is wearing goggles, esp if it makes things more comfortable for the person being gunged. Having said that though, we've never used goggles in our shoots, just carefully chosen substances that don't irritate our people's eyes for face coverage.
I'm surprised that so many people either like or don't mind goggles. About 30% of the people.
That is a much higher percent that I expected, anyway personally I wouldn't buy a scene where goggles are involved.
Whilst in someways I can understand why some might be concerned about sensitive eyes, but honestly i'd rather either different substances were used or if a model has sensitive eyes with any mess then getting messy probably isn't a good option for them.
Metmeh8 said: I'm surprised that so many people either like or don't mind goggles. About 30% of the people.
That is a much higher percent that I expected, anyway personally I wouldn't buy a scene where goggles are involved.
Whilst in someways I can understand why some might be concerned about sensitive eyes, but honestly i'd rather either different substances were used or if a model has sensitive eyes with any mess then getting messy probably isn't a good option for them.
gness7 said: I had no idea there would be so much acceptance for goggles!
Not picking on you... but if you study statistics, the poll actually confirms the opposite.
Let's put it another way: Generic female in generic scene with generic wardrobe is the base. But all producers know there's a TON of things that affect sales and keep people from buying. The look of the model. Her wardrobe. The type of mess. The ORDER of the mess. The way the scene unfolds. Etc etc. If even ONE of these things bothers a customer.... No sale.
Now, certain elements tend to be a turn-ON to many and a turn-OFF to very few. A good example is hose or tights. Most customers are neutral (meaning this factor is neither a positive or negative). A very tiny percentage view hose as a deal breaker (meaning they will NEVER buy a scene with a model wearing hose or tights, regardless of anything else). And a good contingent LOVE hose... to the point that some customers refuse to even consider scenes without them! It doesn't mean they will buy EVERY hose scene ever.... but your chances of making a sale go way up if that wardrobe item is included.
But this poll is approaching goggles from a NEGATIVE aspect. "Do they bother you?" And 68% say "yes." What that means is goggles are a DEAL BREAKER for most of your potential audience. You basically lose 70% of your potential sales right away simply by including this wardrobe item. And the possible customers that are left STILL might not buy, due to all the other elements (look of model, type of mess, and so on).
And honestly, based on the way the poll is worded? Only 10% of your possible customers think goggles are "fine," meaning they're probably the only ones even considering a buy. I suspect the "neutral" folks won't make a purchase unless something else in the scene blows them away.
This doesn't mean every scene with goggles is doomed. But it DOES mean you have to really appeal to that 10% who likes goggles, cuz the other 90% probably ain't buying, even if you have Kate Upton in a string bikini.
gness7 said: I had no idea there would be so much acceptance for goggles!
Not picking on you... but if you study statistics, the poll actually confirms the opposite. *snip* But this poll is approaching goggles from a NEGATIVE aspect. "Do they bother you?" And 68% say "yes." What that means is goggles are a DEAL BREAKER for most of your potential audience. You basically lose 70% of your potential sales right away simply by including this wardrobe item. And the possible customers that are left STILL might not buy, due to all the other elements (look of model, type of mess, and so on).
And honestly, based on the way the poll is worded? Only 10% of your possible customers think goggles are "fine," meaning they're probably the only ones even considering a buy. I suspect the "neutral" folks won't make a purchase unless something else in the scene blows them away.
This doesn't mean every scene with goggles is doomed. But it DOES mean you have to really appeal to that 10% who likes goggles, cuz the other 90% probably ain't buying, even if you have Kate Upton in a string bikini.
We get it, Rich. You hate goggles.
Weirdly enough, two of my scenes with goggles have been my best-selling ones. The two movies I did without goggles didn't sell nearly as well, although for at least one of them that might be due to some jackass posting the entire thing on YouTube three days after I released it and then posting the link on the UMD. Maybe I ought to go back to doing goggles scenes...I might corner the market!
I've always been against goggles, but especially when it's ME who's getting gunged. I DID get mud in one of my eyes once while tied up and getting tormented in a mud-pit. This was quite annoying for many, many hours, until I figured out how to successfully wash it out. Nevertheless, I still refuse to wear goggles when I'm getting my face plastered with goop -- it just totally ruins the experience for me.