I'm just curious what the general consensus is as far as looking for/purchasing a scene?
Do you prefer the girl in the video to be enjoying herself, and I dont even necessarily mean in a sexual way, just that shes at least having some level of fun and enjoyment or laughing through out, or maybe that she even flat out says she wants to be pied and/or slimed
Or would you rather she comes off as disgusted, or doesnt like the fact that shes getting pied and/or slimed, or that shes complaining through out the scene
Just curious how people feel one way or the other, personally I'm in the 1st category, it's kind of a turn off to me if she seems to be upset or like she doesnt want to be there, to me the more willing or enthusiastic she is the better the scene, but that's just me, just want to see what the more popular category is to everyone
We like it when models look happy and as if they are enjoying themselves. That is also the way how we like to film our scenes.. I can definately understand the humiliation aspect of wam but it does not do it for us.
I definitely prefer them to be enjoying themselves. Having said that, they might start off with a bit of a shocked reaction, then look at themselves with a 'Just LOOK at me' expression, but then kind of an 'Oh well, might as well make the most of it' response with the rest being all fun. For example, if a bikini girl were laying on the beach getting a tan, and suddenly a bucket full of cold green slime was tipped over her, I don't think she'd start off by smiling. But once that 'Oh, what the hell' changeover takes place, I love when they play in the mess and are enjoying themselves.
So a tiny bit of shock and a negative reaction, followed by a whole lot of enjoyment and fun. If a girl is self-wamming, or knowing she is to be wammed, it makes more sense to me if it is all fun.
I echo the last post. I like it when the girls initial reaction is “oh, no, not pies, look at my hair and outfit and make up, I spent AGES getting ready!”
Then when she gets hit with the first pie, she thinks “oh sod it” and resigns herself to a messy pie fight, and enjoys it!
I think I am more into the humiliation side of wam. However, if a model is genuinely uncomfortable and hating the situation, I wouldn't be into it at all.
Ideally for me, the model is comfortable and even enjoying herself but there is still an aspect of humiliation to the scene.
BIGGITY said: I'm just curious what the general consensus is as far as looking for/purchasing a scene?
Do you prefer the girl in the video to be enjoying herself, and I dont even necessarily mean in a sexual way, just that shes at least having some level of fun and enjoyment or laughing through out, or maybe that she even flat out says she wants to be pied and/or slimed
Or would you rather she comes off as disgusted, or doesnt like the fact that shes getting pied and/or slimed, or that shes complaining through out the scene
Just curious how people feel one way or the other, personally I'm in the 1st category, it's kind of a turn off to me if she seems to be upset or like she doesnt want to be there, to me the more willing or enthusiastic she is the better the scene, but that's just me, just want to see what the more popular category is to everyone
Option 1 for me. I'd much rather see the person enjoying it, because I enjoy it with a partner. So seeing someone like it is therefore more arousing for me. Seeing someone disgusted is just the status quo.
This would have made an excellent poll as I learned from mine there are a LOT of people who will respond to that rather than post in the forums.
Newt said: For me, acting disgusted/embarrassed/outraged but for comedic effect. Actual humiliation or unhappiness is not hot.
Exact! The humiliation must be pretended, not real.
Scrpits, as in a comedy scene, are perfect for this. In a script, it's obvious that everything is pretended, and consensual.
The taste of prohibited of a well dressed woman getting pied is a turn on... but only when we know that it isn't a real situation. Only when the girl involved in it consented first. The generosity of a woman who let we pie her in good clothes, makes me turn on still more.
Enjoyment is paramount - I could never enjoy a scene where the person in it appeared to be actually suffering. A little bit of acting is OK, like hyper competitive girls in a game acting really annoyed if they lose a round and have to be gunged while their opponents pick up points, or someone who acts all snooty and horrified while clean but then changes and finds they really enjoy it when the mess starts to be applied, and throws themselves into the moment.
Note this doesn't actually rule out humiliation scenes, as long as its clear the person being humiliated actively wants it and is enjoying their predicament. But the scene has to communicate that in some way.
I'd say somewhere in between the two. One of my favourite types of scene is the classic gameshow format, where the forfeit for losing is a pie in the face or a trip to the gunge tank etc. It's something that they *don't* want to happen to them, they're playing to avoid it.
Obviously you can go too far the other way- if a girl is clearly not enjoying herself then that's a massive turn off, too.
I think some of the other posters already mentioned it, but basically either enjoyment or 'consented humiliation.' Basically something with a a humiliation component, but that the person is ok with. Real humiliation that someone didn't willingly sign up for is no bueno. I personally like humiliation, but any situation is one where I've consented and have the ability to stop if it's too much or I don't like it. There's something to be said about someone looking like they're getting a comeuppance in a messy scene...of course so long as it's humiliation that person is ok with.
Can't really see my facial expressions in the latest pictures I posted, but hopefully you can read it as, "Ugh, I lost, I can't believe I'm going to have to wash my hair." At the same time, I kinda resign myself to the fate. Can't escape it.
I think most of the girls are happy but for some special videos it's hard to judge.
I am a big fan of paint, especially metallic paint messy and have watched a lot of videos under this topic, including Messygirl videos and some Japanese videos. So let me use this kind of videos as the example.
Most of those videos feature the scene that the model paint themselves from head to toe and they all seems very happy and excited. Some of the Messygirl videos even have a mirror where the model can watch the process of transformation.
But in some paint messy videos, especially Japanese videos(e.g. the BUG series), the model is painted by others and they seem really unwilling to be treated like that. However it maybe just the request of the director and it is hard to judge those girls' feelings. Messygirl.com also has some videos like this, the best example is the "The Golden Prisoner"
Interestingly, the metallic paint series produced by akibacom.jp really experienced some changes over the years. In most of their early metallic paint videos such as AKP3-7, the girls are all painted from head to toe by a man and there are always some humiliation scenes like the girl's head is pushed into a bowl of paint or the paint is poured into the girls mouth by the man and the girls' expression seems really unwilling or even miserable. But in there newer products like AKP series after AKP-8, all girls in the video paint their body on their own and some extreme scenes like pour the paint into mouth and eyes or bury face in the paint are also down by themselves. They all seems very exciting during the video. Also, most of the new akibacom paint series contains interview with the model and those girls seems really enjoy what they have experienced.
For me, i would rether believe that the models in the paint messy are enjoying themselves, especially when the coating processes are down by themselves. paint messy, especially metallic paint messy is the most attractive kind of WAM for me because it is not just fun, it's kind of a process of art where you transform a human with blood and flesh into a shiny and beautiful statue. Paint yourself from head to toe and feel the process is much more exciting because you are transforming yourself into a masterpiece(I will experience this recently though my figure may not that attractive to be called a masterpiece, haha :bahaha. I hope that those models in the paint messy videos have the same feeling.