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"Could MessyFun.com ever make a return?"
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jusjakn said: Brittany, one of the great Messyfun models is on the UMD from time to time and, I believe, owns the original MessyFun site; she and I are friends here so you might DM her. There is a download store linked to the site but I don't know if it works and most of the best movies are not on it. I bought several VHS videos directly from the great Rob Blaine of Austin, Texas before he passed and my favorite movie was Splatgirl starring the lovely Shaun who, fun fact, was at one time married to Mud Mad Phil of Dirty Muse. If you're going by just scenes and not full movies, my favorite scene was the 12 girl pie fight. I liked it so much, I bought it twice, once on the VHS and again on DVD just before Rob passed. Sadly, I neglected to purchase my second favorite scene, the famous Ariel's Pie shop, before Rob passed and I don't think it's available to buy anymore though it is on one of the free porn sites. Personally, I would love to see some variation of MessyFun come back. I corresponded with Rob long before he passed and his thing was pretty girls, with long hair, great figures and nice legs; we had a lot in common! He loved girls in stockings, heels and nice dresses especially, outfits that, sadly, ladies don't seem to like as much anymore. Now I really sound old! HAHAHA If someone was going to bring it back, it'd probably have to be Phil of Dirty Muse or maybe, Messygirl (also from Texas), Jayce or maybe the great Rich of Slapstick Stuff fame.
SplatGirl part 3 is my all time faovirte wam movie. It has everything. Wetlook, clothed and nude wam, all in one scene.
I always watch the movie from Nicoles point of view. She the first one to get slightly soaked, but watching everyone else get messy, knowing her turn is coming up just does something for me. Shes always smiling and sort of "what have I got myself into" look on her face. To top it off, shes the only one to get nude and she sits in a huge cake, then the cherry ontop, they dump a bucket of chocolate over her.
Seeing how much MF movies cost, it really is impossible for it to come back now, sadly.
However, what if a store owner wanted to raise funds for a MF style movie, where we all donate after reading the script?
I think it would be a great idea, but complex.
However, what if a store owner wanted to raise funds for a MF style movie, where we all donate after reading the script?
I think it would be a great idea, but complex.
Yes its sad that time has passed, Rob was my friend, such a simple Guy and so kind, all he wanted was love and he died never achieving that goal. I will see him again...
For the record
I met my 2nd Wife Shaun thru Rob, we made it 2 really good years, but I will tell you guys its super hard living with an addict. While we still know each other today and I would take her back in a heartbeat, Shaun still has issues with addiction. I did date Brittany (owner of MF) just for the record, we broke up just before Covid and I have not dated another Woman since then, probably never will, was not a good experience. These days I don't think anyone wants to be with anyone else!
Rob used to lust after the models he hired and that was a big problem, made him depressed. I did too, but after all this time I finally realized that models are great on film but the world worst women to date or fall in love with.
Phil
For the record
I met my 2nd Wife Shaun thru Rob, we made it 2 really good years, but I will tell you guys its super hard living with an addict. While we still know each other today and I would take her back in a heartbeat, Shaun still has issues with addiction. I did date Brittany (owner of MF) just for the record, we broke up just before Covid and I have not dated another Woman since then, probably never will, was not a good experience. These days I don't think anyone wants to be with anyone else!
Rob used to lust after the models he hired and that was a big problem, made him depressed. I did too, but after all this time I finally realized that models are great on film but the world worst women to date or fall in love with.
Phil
johnnypie said: I paid Rob $5,000 for Pie Wedgies and he said I was getting a break for using models from TNV. If I produced that scene today, putting it in a clip store that takes 20%, selling it at $20, I'd need to sell 300 clips. I'd probably sell 15.
I cannot even imagine having that kind of money to spend on... well anything, let alone something like a single production. Then to imagine that kind of money adjusted for inflation? In 1996-1999 dollars, that would have been like a third of my annual salary.
Separately, MK has been using AI to upscale older productions which is a pretty neat idea. It would be really neat to see some of these older sets preserved and re-released.
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PotatomanK said:
I cannot even imagine having that kind of money to spend on... well anything, let alone something like a single production. Then to imagine that kind of money adjusted for inflation? In 1996-1999 dollars, that would have been like a third of my annual salary.
Separately, MK has been using AI to upscale older productions which is a pretty neat idea. It would be really neat to see some of these older sets preserved and re-released.
johnnypie said: I paid Rob $5,000 for Pie Wedgies and he said I was getting a break for using models from TNV. If I produced that scene today, putting it in a clip store that takes 20%, selling it at $20, I'd need to sell 300 clips. I'd probably sell 15.
I cannot even imagine having that kind of money to spend on... well anything, let alone something like a single production. Then to imagine that kind of money adjusted for inflation? In 1996-1999 dollars, that would have been like a third of my annual salary.
Separately, MK has been using AI to upscale older productions which is a pretty neat idea. It would be really neat to see some of these older sets preserved and re-released.
I've been a producer since 1999 so all I did was use money from sales to pay for that, didn't touch any of my savings or money from my business.
Dirty Muse said: Yes its sad that time has passed, Rob was my friend, such a simple Guy and so kind, all he wanted was love and he died never achieving that goal. I will see him again...
For the record
I met my 2nd Wife Shaun thru Rob, we made it 2 really good years, but I will tell you guys its super hard living with an addict. While we still know each other today and I would take her back in a heartbeat, Shaun still has issues with addiction. I did date Brittany (owner of MF) just for the record, we broke up just before Covid and I have not dated another Woman since then, probably never will, was not a good experience. These days I don't think anyone wants to be with anyone else!
Rob used to lust after the models he hired and that was a big problem, made him depressed. I did too, but after all this time I finally realized that models are great on film but the world worst women to date or fall in love with.
Phil
For the record
I met my 2nd Wife Shaun thru Rob, we made it 2 really good years, but I will tell you guys its super hard living with an addict. While we still know each other today and I would take her back in a heartbeat, Shaun still has issues with addiction. I did date Brittany (owner of MF) just for the record, we broke up just before Covid and I have not dated another Woman since then, probably never will, was not a good experience. These days I don't think anyone wants to be with anyone else!
Rob used to lust after the models he hired and that was a big problem, made him depressed. I did too, but after all this time I finally realized that models are great on film but the world worst women to date or fall in love with.
Phil
You're going to see Rob again?! Is there a Messy Heaven???!!! Sounds a lot like Lenny's, he wanted to date/marry some of models, I think he took a lot of them out for meals, and paid a few for GFE/sex. That's a shame about Shaun and Brittany, but don't give up, I was ready to take a long term pause from the hell of modern dating and boom hit it off with a lady whose been living 5 minutes away from me for years. I guess the mantra of "never meet your heroes" is also true of "never date the models".
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Saturation Hall, Langstonedale
Lord of the Pies
Thouigh I never met him - the idea of travelling to the US seemed impossible to me back in the 90s - Rob and I used to have long email conversations, he was an incredibly nice person to talk to and took the time for very detailed and thought out replies. And an awful lot of how I run Saturation Hall is directly based on his advice and influence. I bought his little book "The Art Of Messy Photography", and while the sections on operating chemical print SLR cameras (including how to change films mid-shoot while floating in the mud, so you could do more than the basic 36 shots a film held) are now long obsolete, the advice on working with models, being professional, doing detailed preparation for shoots, and that it is impossible to shoot good mud scenes unless you are willing to go right into the mud with your models, rather than lurking at the top of the bank trying to keep your feet dry, are as valid today as they were in 1993 when he wrote it.
Things we do that are directly from the Messy Fun way of operating include:
We provide all the outfits, underwear, footwear, etc - we never expect models to risk their own gear in a shoot. It actually came as a shock to me to realise most wetlook producers expect models to wear their own clothes. We have an enormous "wardrobe warehouse" (as Lily nicknamed it) covering everything from ballgowns to boilersuits, and still add to it from time to time when we find a "must have" item.
Having the girls sometimes in formal ballgowns or prom dresses - buying those from charity shops and using them in scenes was very much influenced by Messy Fun, and they are tremendous fun to mess up. Probably time we shot some more, it's been a while.
Taking the models out for a decent restaurant meal after a day of shoots. Though sadly the rising costs mean this has mostly been downgraded to take-away than sit-in, but hot food is still part of the deal. And we still do full country pub meals after wetlook days, as the Dales rivers are cold even in summer.
Paying all expenses, travel, snacks, etc, for models coming here and while on shoots.
That we do messy, mud, and wetlook, and have done all three from the start. That's what MF did, just seemed natural to do the same.
Our scene numbering system, which is a direct expansion of Rob's system originally designed to fit into the old MS-DOS "8.3" (eight character name, dot, three character extension) file and directlry naming convention. As well as being a splosher, he was a major computer geek and had worked out a very logical way to number and identify scenes.
The very best advice I ever got (which actually came from several places in the 90s, but Rob was very much one of them) was "Shoot what you want to see. That way even if it doesn't sell you have something you can enjoy, and also be proud of."
He also told me that his own market research suggested that for his customer base:
60% were only interested in fully clothed WAM.
10% were interested in messy stripping.
30% were interested in naked WAM.
So he shot scenes accordingly, first two thirds fully clothed, during which the girls' outfits would get comprehensively drenched in mess - nothing came off until it had been completely soaked and covered in messy substances. Only then, well into the scene and after total coverage had been achieved, would any stripping happen, and then the naked messy section to follow.
While our house style is very different to what he shot, I like to think he'd approve of how we've run with the advice he originally gave me. I remember his influence every time I sit down to plan future scenes.
Things we do that are directly from the Messy Fun way of operating include:
We provide all the outfits, underwear, footwear, etc - we never expect models to risk their own gear in a shoot. It actually came as a shock to me to realise most wetlook producers expect models to wear their own clothes. We have an enormous "wardrobe warehouse" (as Lily nicknamed it) covering everything from ballgowns to boilersuits, and still add to it from time to time when we find a "must have" item. Having the girls sometimes in formal ballgowns or prom dresses - buying those from charity shops and using them in scenes was very much influenced by Messy Fun, and they are tremendous fun to mess up. Probably time we shot some more, it's been a while. Taking the models out for a decent restaurant meal after a day of shoots. Though sadly the rising costs mean this has mostly been downgraded to take-away than sit-in, but hot food is still part of the deal. And we still do full country pub meals after wetlook days, as the Dales rivers are cold even in summer. Paying all expenses, travel, snacks, etc, for models coming here and while on shoots. That we do messy, mud, and wetlook, and have done all three from the start. That's what MF did, just seemed natural to do the same. Our scene numbering system, which is a direct expansion of Rob's system originally designed to fit into the old MS-DOS "8.3" (eight character name, dot, three character extension) file and directlry naming convention. As well as being a splosher, he was a major computer geek and had worked out a very logical way to number and identify scenes. The very best advice I ever got (which actually came from several places in the 90s, but Rob was very much one of them) was "Shoot what you want to see. That way even if it doesn't sell you have something you can enjoy, and also be proud of."
He also told me that his own market research suggested that for his customer base:
60% were only interested in fully clothed WAM.
10% were interested in messy stripping.
30% were interested in naked WAM.
So he shot scenes accordingly, first two thirds fully clothed, during which the girls' outfits would get comprehensively drenched in mess - nothing came off until it had been completely soaked and covered in messy substances. Only then, well into the scene and after total coverage had been achieved, would any stripping happen, and then the naked messy section to follow.
While our house style is very different to what he shot, I like to think he'd approve of how we've run with the advice he originally gave me. I remember his influence every time I sit down to plan future scenes.
Saturation Hall - Forth! The Gungemaidens!
DungeonMasterOne said: Thouigh I never met him - the idea of travelling to the US seemed impossible to me back in the 90s - Rob and I used to have long email conversations, he was an incredibly nice person to talk to and took the time for very detailed and thought out replies. And an awful lot of how I run Saturation Hall is directly based on his advice and influence. I bought his little book "The Art Of Messy Photography", and while the sections on operating chemical print SLR cameras (including how to change films mid-shoot while floating in the mud, so you could do more than the basic 36 shots a film held) are now long obsolete, the advice on working with models, being professional, doing detailed preparation for shoots, and that it is impossible to shoot good mud scenes unless you are willing to go right into the mud with your models, rather than lurking at the top of the bank trying to keep your feet dry, are as valid today as they were in 1993 when he wrote it.
Things we do that are directly from the Messy Fun way of operating include:
We provide all the outfits, underwear, footwear, etc - we never expect models to risk their own gear in a shoot. It actually came as a shock to me to realise most wetlook producers expect models to wear their own clothes. We have an enormous "wardrobe warehouse" (as Lily nicknamed it) covering everything from ballgowns to boilersuits, and still add to it from time to time when we find a "must have" item.
Having the girls sometimes in formal ballgowns or prom dresses - buying those from charity shops and using them in scenes was very much influenced by Messy Fun, and they are tremendous fun to mess up. Probably time we shot some more, it's been a while.
Taking the models out for a decent restaurant meal after a day of shoots. Though sadly the rising costs mean this has mostly been downgraded to take-away than sit-in, but hot food is still part of the deal. And we still do full country pub meals after wetlook days, as the Dales rivers are cold even in summer.
Paying all expenses, travel, snacks, etc, for models coming here and while on shoots.
That we do messy, mud, and wetlook, and have done all three from the start. That's what MF did, just seemed natural to do the same.
Our scene numbering system, which is a direct expansion of Rob's system originally designed to fit into the old MS-DOS "8.3" (eight character name, dot, three character extension) file and directlry naming convention. As well as being a splosher, he was a major computer geek and had worked out a very logical way to number and identify scenes.
The very best advice I ever got (which actually came from several places in the 90s, but Rob was very much one of them) was "Shoot what you want to see. That way even if it doesn't sell you have something you can enjoy, and also be proud of."
He also told me that his own market research suggested that for his customer base:
60% were only interested in fully clothed WAM.
10% were interested in messy stripping.
30% were interested in naked WAM.
So he shot scenes accordingly, first two thirds fully clothed, during which the girls' outfits would get comprehensively drenched in mess - nothing came off until it had been completely soaked and covered in messy substances. Only then, well into the scene and after total coverage had been achieved, would any stripping happen, and then the naked messy section to follow.
While our house style is very different to what he shot, I like to think he'd approve of how we've run with the advice he originally gave me. I remember his influence every time I sit down to plan future scenes.
Things we do that are directly from the Messy Fun way of operating include:
We provide all the outfits, underwear, footwear, etc - we never expect models to risk their own gear in a shoot. It actually came as a shock to me to realise most wetlook producers expect models to wear their own clothes. We have an enormous "wardrobe warehouse" (as Lily nicknamed it) covering everything from ballgowns to boilersuits, and still add to it from time to time when we find a "must have" item. Having the girls sometimes in formal ballgowns or prom dresses - buying those from charity shops and using them in scenes was very much influenced by Messy Fun, and they are tremendous fun to mess up. Probably time we shot some more, it's been a while. Taking the models out for a decent restaurant meal after a day of shoots. Though sadly the rising costs mean this has mostly been downgraded to take-away than sit-in, but hot food is still part of the deal. And we still do full country pub meals after wetlook days, as the Dales rivers are cold even in summer. Paying all expenses, travel, snacks, etc, for models coming here and while on shoots. That we do messy, mud, and wetlook, and have done all three from the start. That's what MF did, just seemed natural to do the same. Our scene numbering system, which is a direct expansion of Rob's system originally designed to fit into the old MS-DOS "8.3" (eight character name, dot, three character extension) file and directlry naming convention. As well as being a splosher, he was a major computer geek and had worked out a very logical way to number and identify scenes. The very best advice I ever got (which actually came from several places in the 90s, but Rob was very much one of them) was "Shoot what you want to see. That way even if it doesn't sell you have something you can enjoy, and also be proud of."
He also told me that his own market research suggested that for his customer base:
60% were only interested in fully clothed WAM.
10% were interested in messy stripping.
30% were interested in naked WAM.
So he shot scenes accordingly, first two thirds fully clothed, during which the girls' outfits would get comprehensively drenched in mess - nothing came off until it had been completely soaked and covered in messy substances. Only then, well into the scene and after total coverage had been achieved, would any stripping happen, and then the naked messy section to follow.
While our house style is very different to what he shot, I like to think he'd approve of how we've run with the advice he originally gave me. I remember his influence every time I sit down to plan future scenes.
That is amazing advice, and all of it holds true today.
johnnypie said: Also imagine, back in those says, no digital payments. I sent him money orders then had to wait for him to mail the VHS tape. Talk about trust. Can you name a current WAM producer you'd trust with $5K nowadays? Me either.
Trying to get a quick kitchen reno for $5K lol
Pussy costs money, dick is free!
johnnypie said: the girls stripping down nude and rubbing all over each other ... But true about no sex or toys.
From what little i've been able to see of MF stuff, which mostly consists of the very few trailers still floating about here and there, i think that line alongside the glamour aspect is part of what made MF.... magical, for lack of a better description. the very softest of soft core actions but at the same time could be insanely erotic when watched. it's something that, i feel somewhat, is lacking today as at least some segments of WAM become more... pornified. i think that's always been my annoyance with the 'Lubed' productions. the oil/lube is just the set dressing to the end goal of hard core M/F sex.
That said, i do enjoy the softcore stuff where the model chooses to do it *and* enjoys it naturally and same with lesbian content but sex in general needs to be relegated back to the garnish rather than the main dish.
For me it ruined the custom. Rob demanded that Pie Wedgies end that way or it wouldn't sell and he'd have to charge me a lot more, so I caved. Everyone's fetish is different and there's no "wrong" WAM fetish. For me, however, I'm into girl on girl pie fights where the girls are embarrassed to get pied. This would follow along the lines of every single pie fight or pie scene ever done mainstream. For me me it's ruined when it turns into soft core porn.
johnnypie said: For me it ruined the custom. Rob demanded that Pie Wedgies end that way or it wouldn't sell and he'd have to charge me a lot more, so I caved. Everyone's fetish is different and there's no "wrong" WAM fetish. For me, however, I'm into girl on girl pie fights where the girls are embarrassed to get pied. This would follow along the lines of every single pie fight or pie scene ever done mainstream. For me me it's ruined when it turns into soft core porn.
Told many many many many many times that my sweaters / hairdo fetishes won't sell well for any customs lol
Also liking BBW isn't always a big seller...right Phil??!! 
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12/8/25, 2:24am: 2 images removed after admin review
I found messyfun.com quite by accident. I was thrilled with his site and was glad to visit from time to time. Now it feels that most of his videos, as someone pointed out, are lost to history. Some like Amanda Explains It All, sound great but are nowhere to be found.
I found one entry on the Internet Archives and has a lot of videos listed. Too bad about their preservation.
https://web.archive.org/web/20000302042717/http://messyfun.com
I found one entry on the Internet Archives and has a lot of videos listed. Too bad about their preservation.
https://web.archive.org/web/20000302042717/http://messyfun.com
Dirty Muse said: Yes its sad that time has passed, Rob was my friend, such a simple Guy and so kind, all he wanted was love and he died never achieving that goal. I will see him again...
For the record
I met my 2nd Wife Shaun thru Rob, we made it 2 really good years, but I will tell you guys its super hard living with an addict. While we still know each other today and I would take her back in a heartbeat, Shaun still has issues with addiction. I did date Brittany (owner of MF) just for the record, we broke up just before Covid and I have not dated another Woman since then, probably never will, was not a good experience. These days I don't think anyone wants to be with anyone else!
Rob used to lust after the models he hired and that was a big problem, made him depressed. I did too, but after all this time I finally realized that models are great on film but the world worst women to date or fall in love with.
Phil
For the record
I met my 2nd Wife Shaun thru Rob, we made it 2 really good years, but I will tell you guys its super hard living with an addict. While we still know each other today and I would take her back in a heartbeat, Shaun still has issues with addiction. I did date Brittany (owner of MF) just for the record, we broke up just before Covid and I have not dated another Woman since then, probably never will, was not a good experience. These days I don't think anyone wants to be with anyone else!
Rob used to lust after the models he hired and that was a big problem, made him depressed. I did too, but after all this time I finally realized that models are great on film but the world worst women to date or fall in love with.
Phil
I'd say most women that accept to take part in this fetish could have a screw loose as well as us guys haha
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