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"Classic WAM Videos Recreated"
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I will say, i've long been fascinated by this Fluff-covered Lexi from Messygirls. Part of it is that the fluff jar and the counter are involved, so it felt less like a "WAM Video" and more like "whoa, that's wild and i've never seen it before!" (i have seen a lot of fluff/marshmallow stuff since).
But recreating it would still be awesome, as it's the first time i recall ever seeing it, and it felt really daring and dynamic -- and thus, iconic. (Plus, it was Lexi and, well, she was adorable AF.)
JY
But recreating it would still be awesome, as it's the first time i recall ever seeing it, and it felt really daring and dynamic -- and thus, iconic. (Plus, it was Lexi and, well, she was adorable AF.)
JY
8/4/23, 2:01am: Image removed after admin review
sadblue said: Yep, the reason many of Rob Blaine's videos were "how they were" was because Rob (even for the time), was *extremely* obsessive compulsive about shooting and editing his videos. I vaguely recall him saying in an e-mail where I asked a few questions back in 1999 that the Ariel's Pie Shop shoot took roughly eleven hours and they were shooting extremely late into the day. Neil of PieFightGirls said the three girl pie fight at the end of At the Messy Movies (which he assisted filming for), started shooting at 4PM and wrapped at three in the morning the following day. Rob also said in that e-mail that setting up one particular shot of Kassandra taking a pie to the face in Ariel's Pie Shop took almost twenty minutes. So, that kind of attention to detail is what made a lot of those movies the iconic scenes they are, even today. It still makes me sad to think of what he could have done with UHD video cameras if his life hadn't been tragically cut short. 
That said, he left a heck of a legacy behind, and it would take a hell of a lot of work for a producer today to do a reboot of any of those shoots, I think. I too would love to see a modern take on Ariel's Pie Shop, Tawny and Frenchy's slips pie fight, and the liquid latex pie fight between Tiffany and Shaun. The Tiffany and Shaun one might be the easiest, because that was a quick eight minute scene that was used as a filler scene between longer scenes. I love reading this thread, brings back good memories. 
That said, he left a heck of a legacy behind, and it would take a hell of a lot of work for a producer today to do a reboot of any of those shoots, I think. I too would love to see a modern take on Ariel's Pie Shop, Tawny and Frenchy's slips pie fight, and the liquid latex pie fight between Tiffany and Shaun. The Tiffany and Shaun one might be the easiest, because that was a quick eight minute scene that was used as a filler scene between longer scenes. I love reading this thread, brings back good memories. That is extremely impressive. I had no idea that much went into those films but it definitely shows! They are classics for a reason.
PieGirlKay did a video taking us through her daily routine - waking up, brushing her teeth, doing housework, cooking - and getting blasted with pies in the face every step of the way. It ended with her indulging in some fun at night, so even more pies and pie sandwiches. Oh, and then there was another pie after she'd showered off. So that would be nice to see recreated.
(Maybe even better would be some Gilly Silly House stuff, but that's so firmly vanished it's hard to even find pics of a lot of it. There was always a nice mix of brightly coloured pies and slime.)
(Maybe even better would be some Gilly Silly House stuff, but that's so firmly vanished it's hard to even find pics of a lot of it. There was always a nice mix of brightly coloured pies and slime.)
sadblue said: Yep, the reason many of Rob Blaine's videos were "how they were" was because Rob (even for the time), was *extremely* obsessive compulsive about shooting and editing his videos. I vaguely recall him saying in an e-mail where I asked a few questions back in 1999 that the Ariel's Pie Shop shoot took roughly eleven hours and they were shooting extremely late into the day. Neil of PieFightGirls said the three girl pie fight at the end of At the Messy Movies (which he assisted filming for), started shooting at 4PM and wrapped at three in the morning the following day. Rob also said in that e-mail that setting up one particular shot of Kassandra taking a pie to the face in Ariel's Pie Shop took almost twenty minutes. So, that kind of attention to detail is what made a lot of those movies the iconic scenes they are, even today. It still makes me sad to think of what he could have done with UHD video cameras if his life hadn't been tragically cut short. That said, he left a heck of a legacy behind, and it would take a hell of a lot of work for a producer today to do a reboot of any of those shoots, I think. I too would love to see a modern take on Ariel's Pie Shop, Tawny and Frenchy's slips pie fight, and the liquid latex pie fight between Tiffany and Shaun. The Tiffany and Shaun one might be the easiest, because that was a quick eight minute scene that was used as a filler scene between longer scenes. I love reading this thread, brings back good memories.
That said, he left a heck of a legacy behind, and it would take a hell of a lot of work for a producer today to do a reboot of any of those shoots, I think. I too would love to see a modern take on Ariel's Pie Shop, Tawny and Frenchy's slips pie fight, and the liquid latex pie fight between Tiffany and Shaun. The Tiffany and Shaun one might be the easiest, because that was a quick eight minute scene that was used as a filler scene between longer scenes. I love reading this thread, brings back good memories. All of that ^^^^, plus, when Rob was shooting he was one of only about six producers in the world and could bank on selling several thousand copies of each 2 hour video he produced, which also meant he could pay well - his models, in 1995, got $250 a shoot, which would (in purchasing power terms) be $500 a shoot now. No modern WAM producer could even think of matching that.
I think doing a "homage" to a classic scene is OK, but attempting to actually "recreate" to me would be a step too far, given none of us could recreate the environment the classic scenes were shot in.
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Hey long time listener, first time caller.
Two words Saralocks and the 3 Clowns.
Wait that more than 2 words.
I mean you got Saralocks (who is awesome). That's one, but probably should be two. (Can I say hyphenated on this site?).
But then you got the 3 Clowns, but they are never in the video. So, would they count? (Can I say but on this site?).
There is a clown at the end, but he doesn't do any counting. So?????
Any way it would be a great remake.
Shout out to Mrs. B, PGKay, Sara (Messy girl) and the Pie Kappa Sorority at Ms. McIntyre's Cosmetology College for Ladies of Questionable Virtue in Newark NJ.
Hope life is treating you well.
Two words Saralocks and the 3 Clowns.
Wait that more than 2 words.
I mean you got Saralocks (who is awesome). That's one, but probably should be two. (Can I say hyphenated on this site?).
But then you got the 3 Clowns, but they are never in the video. So, would they count? (Can I say but on this site?).
There is a clown at the end, but he doesn't do any counting. So?????
Any way it would be a great remake.
Shout out to Mrs. B, PGKay, Sara (Messy girl) and the Pie Kappa Sorority at Ms. McIntyre's Cosmetology College for Ladies of Questionable Virtue in Newark NJ.
Hope life is treating you well.
JoeYoung said: Ariel's Pie Shop, the 12 girl pie fight and "Pie Wedgies" -- all Rob Blaine -- are forever burnt into my memory.
I think at least one person has done a "remake" of Ariel's Pie Shop?
There's a magic to those videos that probably never can be recaptured, partially because of how they were made (meaning the cameras/look of things), and the girls/acting.
JY
I think at least one person has done a "remake" of Ariel's Pie Shop?
There's a magic to those videos that probably never can be recaptured, partially because of how they were made (meaning the cameras/look of things), and the girls/acting.
JY
i wonder if using Rob Blaine's (or one of the few other physical "fanzine"/catalogs that would get mailed out) as a format might be an interesting way to go?
the handful of pictures that would be in those black and white print-out mailers were like gold. it made those scenes, and those women, iconic. i think that's part of what would be great to capture for the long-time/deep catalogue/"that is a core UMD memory for me" people, like myself.
i completely did not think hard about the actual cost of (re) doing something like Pie Wedgies or 12 Girl Pie Fight with that many models/moving parts.
but -- i do think doing a format like "1998 Wam Catalog" would be a really solid idea to think about/work off of
further, if multiple WAM creators could get together... You could make a REALLY cool anthology-style project. Have multiple producers/makers of WAM videos do a tribute to their favorite scene. It could be a project virtually every wammer (og especially - but ideally bridging old and new!) would want to fund/contribute to/buy.
JY
JoeYoung said:
i wonder if using Rob Blaine's (or one of the few other physical "fanzine"/catalogs that would get mailed out) as a format might be an interesting way to go?
the handful of pictures that would be in those black and white print-out mailers were like gold. it made those scenes, and those women, iconic. i think that's part of what would be great to capture for the long-time/deep catalogue/"that is a core UMD memory for me" people, like myself.
i completely did not think hard about the actual cost of (re) doing something like Pie Wedgies or 12 Girl Pie Fight with that many models/moving parts.
but -- i do think doing a format like "1998 Wam Catalog" would be a really solid idea to think about/work off of
further, if multiple WAM creators could get together... You could make a REALLY cool anthology-style project. Have multiple producers/makers of WAM videos do a tribute to their favorite scene. It could be a project virtually every wammer (og especially - but ideally bridging old and new!) would want to fund/contribute to/buy.
JY
JoeYoung said: Ariel's Pie Shop, the 12 girl pie fight and "Pie Wedgies" -- all Rob Blaine -- are forever burnt into my memory.
I think at least one person has done a "remake" of Ariel's Pie Shop?
There's a magic to those videos that probably never can be recaptured, partially because of how they were made (meaning the cameras/look of things), and the girls/acting.
JY
I think at least one person has done a "remake" of Ariel's Pie Shop?
There's a magic to those videos that probably never can be recaptured, partially because of how they were made (meaning the cameras/look of things), and the girls/acting.
JY
i wonder if using Rob Blaine's (or one of the few other physical "fanzine"/catalogs that would get mailed out) as a format might be an interesting way to go?
the handful of pictures that would be in those black and white print-out mailers were like gold. it made those scenes, and those women, iconic. i think that's part of what would be great to capture for the long-time/deep catalogue/"that is a core UMD memory for me" people, like myself.
i completely did not think hard about the actual cost of (re) doing something like Pie Wedgies or 12 Girl Pie Fight with that many models/moving parts.
but -- i do think doing a format like "1998 Wam Catalog" would be a really solid idea to think about/work off of
further, if multiple WAM creators could get together... You could make a REALLY cool anthology-style project. Have multiple producers/makers of WAM videos do a tribute to their favorite scene. It could be a project virtually every wammer (og especially - but ideally bridging old and new!) would want to fund/contribute to/buy.
JY
That is exactly what we were thinking! It would be really cool if other producers were on board with this idea and were willing to work together. Of course it will be extremely difficult to "recreate" classics but it would be cool to do a spin on them and create off of our favorites.
mFeelzGood said: I wish some of Ariel's WamBabe's classics could be recreated.
(I was debating whether or not to mention this. I don't know the full story or the sentiment here.)
The photography was amazing but the videos were average at the time. I just missed the style of seeing a girl making cute pin up style poses between the shutter noise of a SLR.
So it might be fun to create a video with a similar style. A fixed camera position, but make sexy poses for the photographer.
MessyHot has a similar style which has both photography and video, and the models pose for photos. It is really nice seeing vibrant cake frosting colors and the detailed texture of cake on a girl in photography.
Seeing photography brings nostalgia for me. I would come to this site just to enjoy the preview photos from photo sets. I would collect them all. I still have my collection.
(I was debating whether or not to mention this. I don't know the full story or the sentiment here.)
The photography was amazing but the videos were average at the time. I just missed the style of seeing a girl making cute pin up style poses between the shutter noise of a SLR.
So it might be fun to create a video with a similar style. A fixed camera position, but make sexy poses for the photographer.
MessyHot has a similar style which has both photography and video, and the models pose for photos. It is really nice seeing vibrant cake frosting colors and the detailed texture of cake on a girl in photography.
Seeing photography brings nostalgia for me. I would come to this site just to enjoy the preview photos from photo sets. I would collect them all. I still have my collection.
I appreciate your kind words. It's true many of my messy videos, especially the cake/food related ones, are a documentary of how a photoshoot goes for me. I'm working on more frequently taking a narrative approach to scenes, as that seems to hit harder with most of the audiences here.
I would love to see another take on this classic:
https://shokolada.umd.net/download_info/dessert_glass
making sure to really get some good head/face coverage!
https://shokolada.umd.net/download_info/dessert_glass
making sure to really get some good head/face coverage!
Bozo1 said: Anglefan's The Restaurant https://anglefan.com/cgi/autogal.pl?vidnum=tws-21-1893
I always loved this.
I've always been a fan of OTP and full coverage, so Parrothead's Amber vids and anything PieGirlKay produced.
