If I understand you, then, insofar as you're talking about personal choice, you're only talking about the choice to believe whatever you want. Right? But that's obvious. Nobody can take that away if they tried.

I used to be in favor of mask mandates and vaccine mandates. Now I just laugh as people complain in the States about businesses forcing people to get vaccinated or be fired. The hypocrisy in everything is some funny shit. Businesses make deals with States to enact at will laws. Protecting the business and not the employee. Now that businesses are using those laws the same political group that fought for those laws are mad that they are using them. When businesses did not want to provide birth control under their medical insurance people said that it was their right. Now the same people are saying businesses do not have the right to dictate health choices.

Yeah I am vaxxed, but I don't do the mask and I am not in favor of vaccine or mask mandates. Because I am vaxxed. Yes I may get COVID and I accept that risk. But I have a better chance of fighting it because I am vaxxed. I have my groceries delivered, have done for about the last 6 years. Are my shoppers vaxxed, no clue. I get delivery from food places, are the delivery people and the food prep people vaxxed, no clue. People have had a chance to get vaccinated. They choose not to. So because of their choices, I look forward to the consequences.

However, I draw the line at hospital beds. If you have a hospital bed because of a situation you could have prevented and didn't, you lose your bed to the people who are coming in with things they either could not prevent, or did everything in their power to prevent. You want to take horse dewormer, go for it. You want to take Hydroxy Chloriquine, go for it. But don't go to the hospital and dictate your care to the doctor.

Don't like the policies the company you work for puts in place, find another job. Don't like the politics of the people in charge, drive some people to a polling location and help vote out the people where applicable. Don't like being kicked out of a hospital bed because your ass made choices, make better choices. But please, can we all agree to stop posting the "don't be like me" posts? Don't post the videos trying to be a cautionary tale to make people choose differently. So you made some bad choices, sort yourself out.

Going off on a lunatic right wing rant slagging off the NHS and having no basic grasp of why your local health service is not working after a decade of the very politicians who have made it that way and to top it off posting a link to GB News lol cretin.

As a relatively young person losing the NHS is one of my greatest fears in life, along with the threat of homelessness as a result of ever increasing private rental costs.

I want to bash my head against a wall when I hear people, particularly those older than me, bemoaning the NHS and calling for it's privatisation after enjoying its fruits for their whole life up until this point. They talk about it as if the prospect of having to pay out thousands of pounds for insurance and treatment is preferable.

And nail-on-the-head regarding people missing the point about why it is struggling at the moment, decades of deliberate underfunding by parties ideological opposed to the idea of nationally owned public services.

Don't get me started on the anti-vax, anti-mask brigade. Earlier this year I had to console a friend who lost her uncle to Covid. He had been convinced by his anti-vax, conspiracy-touting adult offspring that it was all a hoax and had talked him out of getting vaccinated. Even now his kids don't believe Covid killed him, they believe the hospital did him in to inflate death statistics.

How do you reason with people like that?

You can't. They're brainwashed. It would take months to solve years and years of propaganda. Most people learn the hard way.

Has anybody called full house for the Daily Mail/Fox news bingo yet??

I have never understood the 'Bad guvvermenters taking away muh freedum!' lot throughout this crisis because it's been so painfully obvious they've tried to keep business as usual going as long as they can and only taken action, such as it was, under extreme pressure - and even then, with great reluctance and apology. The outlook since July has essentially been 'make everyone think this is completely over and will never return'. Enforcement? What's that?

I also found this to be a nearly-complete bingo card of inconsistant pop-right tirades. Being anti-EV is particularly hilarious because it's only there through the most casual association with the climate movement, and is essentially a way of keeping the dominance of the private car. I guarantee in ten to fifteen years time when the knuckheads have finally driven an EV they will talk as if they always loved them and how could anyone want to go back to those annoying, slow, unrealiable rattleboxes we had in 2020?

So, since we're elsewhere having a discussion about censorship vs. moderation, I'm curious as to why the OP was "removed" rather than having "deleted" their profile.

I don't know shit about UK politics, my own country is fucked up enough as it is, but aside from some bad takes / unpopular or right wing opinions, I don't see anything ban worthy here. Both the OP and the absolute holier than thou shit fest that followed are infinitely more mild than most of what you see on twitterdotcom.

No one is owed an answer, I'm just curious.

The two words are interchangeable. If you look at the blank box that used to be the OP's avatar, it's "deleted" but if you click on that, it says the profile was "removed".

Nessie

What?

You'd have to check with MM to be sure but I'm fairly sure the OP deleted their own profile, and the deleted / removed thing is the same regardless of whether someone bailed or got purged. It says deleted on the threads, and removed on the profile.

That's a shockingly low bar to have to clear really. You have to know that if you are venting opinions in a public forum which you aren't immediately familiar people will either violently agree or disagree.
Nobody wants a conversation, they just want to be told they are right.

Meh. Maybe it's hax, maybe it's just someone looking to shed their mediocre following, maybe it's just someone looking to hide under the guise of free speech to behave like a total ball-bag without consequence. Whatever. Nevertheless, a few thoughts:

Takes a bit of nerve to roll up on a fetish forum and basically ask "WTF is up with all this gay/ diversity shit on TV?", doesn't it?

Also, guurl, we've all seen the vids. You enthusiastically filmed yourself screwing in, shall we say, organic fermented kitchen waste, among a pile of other things. Don't @ us with all this high-horse shiite about morality and what's gone wrong with the world.

On that "Deal with it " crack about dying from Covid:
Fucking Ex-cuuuuuse me? Try out that "Deal with it" sentence above, and replace covid with cancer. Oh, not so edgy-sounding now, is it? Ironic how cancer treatments are being put off because the anti-vaxx clowns can't wheeze to death in their ICU beds fast enough.

As far as that garbage TV link goes, Good riddance to anyone dumb enough to take Farage or his Russian ownership seriously.

At least Steve Bannon will be in jail soon. One ticked off a very long list.

If it's alright with you, I'm going to cut that last sentence out and frame it. Maybe the most zeitgeist thing possible.

I my echo chamber