Help settle this argument, it's a simple one and i think the answer is obvious but...

eww to both. TOS>TNG>DS9> STOP!

TNG > DS9 > TOS > DISCO > VOY > ENT

Blake's 7

I refuse to acknowledge a Star Trek where navigation is handled by a "water bear" farting spores. Also, Klingons have been ruined ever since Mrs. Roddenberry died and CBS took full control. I miss Worf...

The Klingon species has a bunch of sub-races in it which accounts for the weird phenotypic traits displayed across Discovery, TOS, and TNG/the movies. Something about a virus or whatever, I forget and barely care. Also, tardigrades are cool (horizontal gene transfer!!!) -- and also any decision to bring actual cool science to any sci-fi stories is something that I give a

In fairness, as I recall season 3 of Enterprise is OK because it abandoned that temporal cold war crap for a relatively interesting serial storyline. The first two seasons were unwatchable and so I didn't. The only non-season-3 episodes that are watchable (actually genuine great) are those set in the Mirrorverse.

The big deal for me is that, while *most* of Voyager's characters were wooly nobodies, *all* of Enterprise's characters were. Even John Billingsley, who is a genuinely good character actor and played the doctor on ENT, couldn't really raise the material very far, though I'm sure he tried.

Gene Roddenberry's involvement was a mixed blessing. TOS had a lot of suck to it, and TNG was much better when Gene stopped sticking his nose in its day-to-day business.

But yeah it goes without saying that Majel Barrett is sorely missed on a few fronts. Maybe you can blame CBS for bad plotting in Discovery, especially near the end of the season, but I don't know why Barrett's death and any subsequent rights transfer is the thing to blame. That feels like a lot of speculation about inside baseball stuff.

Because she was the face and voice of Star Trek. She had a lot of sway in what happened and didn't happen. Now it's a bunch of faceless nobodies. Yeah, maybe I'm looking at it through the rose tinted glasses of the past.

Klingons...I'll give you the different looks, but they feel like a completely different culture now too.

No matter what you say, I still draw a hard line on tardigrades farting spores for warp drive. That's more fantastical than any bullshit technojargon LaVar Burton ever had to vomit out of his mouth.


Also, I will go with Voyager because.
1. It didn't have to rewrite existing canon to exist.
2. It had ONE good character with excellent development, Robert Picardo as the Doctor.

Galaxy Quest.

Now I'm sad again. By Grabthar's Hammer, Alan Rickman shall be avenged!

Roddenberry's son was also a producer, as was the writer behind ST6 (which was a solid movie). And Fuller, of course, who worked on Voyager, though he bounced early.

I won't comment on the writing and research quality of Disco, because the finale of that season was garbage and the major plot developments in the latter third of the season didn't have any time to breathe. I will say this, though: it was, hands-down, 200+% better than TNG's first season. Remember "Code of Honor"?


I went with Voyager also in this particular Sophie's Choice. And yes the Doctor was fine, because he was a dickhead and I liked to see him verbally smack the rest of the ninnies around. Seven was fine also, as was Janeway, as were the baker's dozen worth of Macquis crewmembers who were actually lurking psychopaths (Seska, Suder). Honorable mention goes to Chakotay's Beltran and Tuvok's Russ, both of whom gave it a shot but were both ultimately hollowed out due to shit writing and lazy showrunning. Dishonorable mention to the rest (Kes, Paris, Torres, Kim), whose dialogue was often copy-pasted between episodes. Special shout-out goes to Neelix, who sucked, but at least had more personality than a houseplant.

And now here are some football aliens.

http://chiefobrienatwork.com/

I suddenly feel very depressed...