Another decade, another Kosplay Underground pie in the face challenge.

Lady Dredknot is teaming up with Kosplay Underground to do their (in)famous pie challenge. In exchange for 50 new subscribers by the end of January, she's taking two pies to the face. For a hundred new subs, she's taking four pies to the face. And over a hundred? She told me possibly slime.

She's already up for two pies, since she's got 88 subscribers at last check.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdwXbJBrr7o&t=10s

But it gets even better. Because yours truly has convinced her to take her messing... while dressed up in a Zero Suit Samus Cosplay! I've already bought her a zero suit, and it's on its way as I type this.

So just subscribe to Lady Dredknot on YouTube, and we can help start the new decade off with a potentially amazing cosplay messing.

Good to see Cosplay Underground doing new pie challenges.

I know. They haven't for a long time. They recently splattered Kelly Carnes; the head of Trove Cosplay. This is part of a new wave of challenges they are doing. I hope it's a nice good wave. The best part is, I was talking to Lady DredKnot, and she was super excited to be doing this, especially in a Zero Suit Samus Cosplay, because she loves the character. I'm really glad to help her out on this.

Is she aware of this fetish? Or are you not going to bring that up? Lol

Well, I phrased some of the communications in a way that sort of implied it. For instance, I gave her a few tips as to how to do it with shaving cream, adding that I got it from someone with a lot of experience. I also said that she could pie herself in the butt, in addition to the face, but I added ONLY if she was comfortable, to which she gave a thumbs up. So I'm thinking maybe, maybe not. The point is, she's open to a lot of ideas with this; though that's kind of self-evident, given that she's agreed to do it in a Zero Suit.

Update: 108 subscribers. We've done it ladies and gentlemen. That's four pies. Let's keep it going!

So...no. You basically conned her into doing this with out telling her it was for the explicit purpose of a bunch of thirsty guys to jack off to.

The transparency award goes to the OP.

How should I have done it? How would you suggest it? Be open, forward, and super fucking creepy about it?

I was trying to help both parties. Her to get subscribers, her stated goal, and us to get a good WAM video.

I would browse this forum or the various porn sites where people offer custom fetish videos and pay them to make videos for you. Instead of conning someone into giving you free wank material.

The first two yes, maybe not so much the third part. Consider her usual audience maybe. Then consider the audience you'd be sending her. If she's an instagram model, yeah, maybe that's fine. If she's a twitch streamer or something, she's probably not going to want a bunch of fetishists constantly asking her about pieing herself or filling her panties with junk, that's all. A little consideration for the other party goes a long way.

Free wank material? I bought the Zero Suit she's gonna wear myself. It cost over $20. Not the most expensive, but still not free by any stretch of the imagination. She loved the idea of this. You don't have an argument there.

I do recognize the point you're making there. I don't want her to be harassed about this. She's got the power to block harassers though. And it's up to us to police ourselves. Kosplay Underground has a history with WAM, so to some extent she knows what she's getting into. That leaves us to be as responsible as her.

You're basically trying to convince a woman to provide you with spank material without telling her the nature of your request. What you're doing is dishonest and immoral.

I did not request for her to do this pie dare or potentially get slimed. That was entirely her deal. I suggested she dress up as a character which she said she loved, and I offered to pay for it, which she accepted. It's not a case of manipulation. It's a case of our interests happening to align. What is the harm in that?

Because you're going to blow countless loads to her and she isn't aware. Put it this way, if telling her the truth will make you seem creepy you're probably doing something very wrong.

This was my first time doing anything like this. I will be more explicit next time, if I find myself in a similar situation. That said, I was operating with reasonable confidence that she knew what she was getting into, given Kosplay Underground's history, as well as the other comments that have been made on the challenge acceptance video, as well as ideas that she told me that she had been suggested.

And then there's the fact that she eagerly wanted to do it as ZeroSuit Samus, an extremely sexualized character. Isn't that indication enough that she doesn't care about being jerked off to?

I don't know. I'm not her. Maybe you should stop justifying. If you never mentioned this was a fetish and you were going to post it all in a forum with hard X content, you willingly misled her.

I think this is reasonable and that you did nothing wrong, given the context. Most important point IMO -- you didn't initiate the action, just supported an action that was already happening.

(Yes, you solicited a costume. And, I mean, if this involves a Seamus fetish then maybe it's a different story...)

I can't comment about the specifics of the situation HERE but...

Fellas, stop assuming women are all dumb and naive to things like fetishes. Most women know far, far more than you give them credit for.


I have a few friends in the cosplay community and trust me, those girls KNOW what goes on behind the scenes. They are not stupid. Some are really into it. Others just don't want to be told to their faces. Most just don't want to interact with it but know it's happening beyond their knowledge. But I can tell you that every girl into cosplay with a decent following on social media, for the most part, knows that she has more than one fan who's wanked to her or her character.

Because here's some breaking news...GIRLS DO IT TO. Guys have "waifu" and girls have "husbando"...and many girls have "waifu" too. There's a level of innocence to it but if you guys think males have a monopoly on fetishizing fictional characters...you guys are the dumb ones. :p

It's not a matter of assuming anyone is dumb or naive, but one of choosing what you disclose. You can't control or know what's going on in someone else's head, you can only decide what you do or do not tell them.

If you omit explaining something because you think it's something the other person should already know, you're making an assumption. If in making that assumption you're avoiding having a conversation that you think might be awkward or interpreted poorly, then the assumption you're making is self-serving, and you are probably no longer acting in good faith.

Funny how all these people on the moral Cancel-Culture High road here are users I've never really ever see participate in other discussions or ones who are out there finding scenes to share/enjoy.

Odd how that works.

What is this a new generation of Antdx?

Enigma.


Gatekeeping is ALWAYS crappy. Lurkers can have morality too.

My point is that every single time there's a thread like this, there's a host of white knights who rush into to say how shady the OP is, etc. And it's not limited to here. This can be seen all over the internet. After a while, it starts to feel like women don't have voices or thoughts of our own. We actually make more informed decisions than men realize. There may be nothing between our legs but there's plenty between our ears!

I'm all for not steering girls into creepy situations--I have a VERY vested interest in that, of course, as a possesser of female parts myself. But truthfully, almost everything is a fetish at this point. I've learned of one where a guy goes around getting random girls to stand on him for a quick photo. If you think any girl appearing in his photo doesn't know that's some fetish (that she doesn't understand), you're nuts--but if it's innocuous to her, a lot of girls will just do it because it's amusing.

Not everything needs to be dumped on a poor girl up front. "Hey, this is a big fetish and a bunch of dudes are going to jerk off to this" never goes well and ruins what could be an innocent (for her) bit of fun for the girl. She'll certainly pass if you overwhelm her like that. If you present it as a fetish, even when it is for some people, she'll stay away and that ruins it for her. Let people enjoy things as they interpret them every now and then as long as there's no DIRECT or imminent danger or harm in doing so.

A lot of girls watched Double Dare and Nickelodeon growing up too. A lot watched that and thought "I WANT TO BE SLIMED!" And if you immediately project YOUR fetish onto that, those girls will never see it the same way and have a childhood dream ruined.

I think that's all well and good, right up until you're trying to get someone to do something which pushes your fetish-buttons unknowingly. In the abstract, sure, people do things which push those buttons for others all the time, often unwittingly; I agree there's no reason to aggressively confront them with that. But the moment you decide to try and manufacture that situation, without being transparent about your motivations, you're the one putting that on the other person, whether or not you decide to tell them. Maybe that's a subtle difference, but I really don't think it is.

If you wouldn't want to be manipulated, however kindly or benignly, into unknowingly creating fetish material for someone (and the internet writ-large), then it's probably not something you should be doing to someone else. Regardless of whether or not you feel like they should, could, or do see through your intentions. Doesn't matter who's doing what demographically, just seems like basic decency.