Question for everyone, I've been into pies for 40 years, not slime, not mud, not wetlook or anything else, and while I think about it everyday, doing pies or getting pied sometimes seems like it'll never happen, or not often enough. So my question is has anyone ever grown out of their fetish? Or get tired of it? How do you deal with it or get over it? Or do you ever??

So you've never done this with anyone? Why not?

I have done it a million times, ex wife, girlfriends, alone, etc., and while it is much more arousing with women, kind of get old by yourself after awhile, I've gone months and months without it, so that's why I was asking, Can you give it up? And professional help sounds great, until you try explaining it in detail, I don't need them for sexual pleasure or arousal, but definitely hard trying to call it quits

As somebody who has benefitted greatly throughout my life from having some extraordinary therapists with whom I've been open about my interest (my current therapist won't even call it a fetish -- saying it's altogether too judgy) any "professional" who entertains such a notion should lose his or her license.

Our therapist was also very helpful at helping my husband and I contextualize my love of mess into our relationship.

As long as it's consensual and not abusive to yourself or others, why would you want to rid yourself of something that brings you joy?

I understand what you mean about being alone. The only time I've done it alone was when I was young, and when I wanted to make some pics or a video for here. Otherwise it's strictly with others. Look, if it makes you happy, don't give it up. Don't do it by yourself and keep it special to enjoy with someone else. Just my 2 cents.

Personally for me, I know I go through phases where I'm really into it (like right now) and then there are times where it really doesn't appeal to me as much. That being said, I have been into this since I was very young (just like most people on here) so I don't think it will ever truly go away, but I can see taking breaks every now and then. It's really all about having fun and being playful, so I wouldn't ever want to try and get rid of my fascination with WAM.

No, I don't think you can "grow out of it" any more than you can grow out of your sexuality. You don't "become straight" or "pray the gay away" for instance. It doesn't work that way. Yes, you may find that at different times you may feel less draw or urge towards it though. For instance, I'm here a lot now because I'm completely alone. I haven't had any sexual relations in over 5 years, and no WAM in close to 10. However, in the past where times were plenty (at least with sex, never WAM), I didn't crave it as much.

If you're concerned that it's dominating your life though, you may want to seek out professional help.

I must say it's totally opposite for me. When something is bothering me in my life I am not turned on by WAM at all. But as soon as that issue gets resolved I instantly become "WAM-horny".

And I have no desire whatsoever to stop wamming.

What do you want or hope to achieve from giving it up?

I have been messing for around 30 years and have done pretty much all kinds of WAM and had a blast doing so but I have kind of moved on from it with respects to having been there done that, got my kick and now I need something more. For me that something else came in the form of cross dressing which for me seemed a natural progression from WAM. I'm not suggesting you try cross dressing (it's fun but cosmetics are not cheap!) That said maybe you need something more to give you that kick and perhaps you need to explore what that might be.

Don't think you ever tire of seeing a beautiful lady messy, but you may discover that being messy yourself does get boring....


Good luck x

I think this alone is the exact problem for most people here frustrated, myself included. This is EXACTLY where I'm at personally right now. I could get in the shower right now and get jiggy with Aunt Jemima but it would do absolutely NOTHING for me except make me feel bad about the wasted money and food. Because it's sexual for me. It's like masturbation, it helps get the immediate feeling out, but afterwards there is no afterglow, there is no sensualism, there's just emptyness. I think that's what a LOT of people here are experiencing, and why they say dramatic things like "I'm going to give up WAM" or "I'm going to leave UMD". Both of those things are fine, if you're doing them for the right reason.

^THIS^ is not it.

Listen, she said that other people wouldn't understand if they found out and--

Oh.

YOU mean the syrup!

Never mind then.

The image of myself pounding it out to videos of twentysomething women wrestling in mud when I'm 75 seems a little, I dunno, pathetic? But whatever. Hey, maybe we'll finally have holodecks by then and Geezer Regis will be able to hop in there with 'em!

https://www.amazon.com/Perv-Sexual-Deviant-All-Us/dp/0374230897

There has been a long and storied history of people wanting to give up fetishes. Spoiler alert: It doesn't work.

This book is absolutely fascinating, and after reading it, I felt my eccentricities, if you will, were quite time.

But it also helped me come to terms with my personal feelings about my individual sexuality. While there are broad terms, like straight and gay, there are also various facets of it, making it more like a spectrum than a series of discreet categories. Or maybe the categories are discrete, I can never remember.

I mean I dunno, I lost my left nut in January of 2016. Docs said there would be some decent consequences with 50% of my testosterone production gone. Becoming gelatinous, androgenous, losing sexual desire and ability to get it up, and more. Honestly, I'm more horny now than before. The only negative thing I notice from that and getting older is that I can no longer hit the ceiling.

Thanks for all the feedback, I don't teally want to give it up, hell, id like to do it more and more, but with a busy work schedule, and finding the time to buy everything, it's hard to make time to escape reality, with or without my gf

Cheap WAM your GF will find hot. Just add water

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This. There are plenty of other things that I get into that just make me feel like WAM and other fetishes are a distraction or I even stop thinking about them altogether. Also WAM is a very internet needy thing for me.

This entire thread has been a very interesting read because there's a little of me in most of the responses. I'm 55 years old and for the last twenty years I've been actively involved in every aspect of mud and quicksand related media creation. It's not something you can just hide when you're done. Traveled from British Columbia to Southern Alabama, California to North Carolina, in pursuit of this. Beyond the fetish it's just fun doing this stuff. I love that part as well. It's all been a great adventure.

Having tried to quit several times I now realize that it's like being in the Mafia. You don't quit until you die. I've got tremendous reasons to stop. Huge. But I know that I never will. I can't any more than I can change my race or eye-color. It's what I am and I like it.