Hi everyone,

Long time lurker, first time poster. Hopefully I'm ok to post this here!

I'm very much a fan of scenes from the South American shows Esto Es Guerra (particularly Panama but also Peru) and Chega Mais. I wanted to start a thread to ask people's favourite scenes, participants and so on.

For me, they contain many great WAM moments. Most of my favourite clips are from these shows!

At this stage they are long past there best or discontinued and not spoken about much now. However, I'm yet to grow tired of watching the clips of the beautiful Neka Prila get messy time and again!

Is there anyone else who is particularly fond of these shows?

I think you'll find a lot of fans of these shows here. For me, Sabrina Scherer getting pied on Chega Mais was a particular favourite and I still watch those clips regularly.

I'm a little obsessed with those shows. I'm surprised Chega Mais lasted as long as it did, and I'm still stunned how many messy games were played on EEG Panana. Yeah their slime was thin, but if they used a thicker slime formula and did the same amount of games, the girls hair would've fallen out. Joy on EEG was so beautiful. Just a perfect figure.

It's a little why I like Ratata youtube channel. I don't know if the participants/actors anticipated how messy the show was going to be, but once they were signed up, some devious person made sure to practically torture the girls with mess over and over again.

I still have a small amount of hope a really messy show is in our near future. Maybe they'll bring back one of these shows as things get back to normal.

Thankfully it seems you were right about finding other fans of these shows judging by the replies!

Sabrina's scenes are possibly my favourites from Chega, although Karol Vasconcelos and Julia Cardones run her close. The clip in which Sabrina takes a blue pie (he has a pie on one hand and a handful of pie in the other), might be the best the show done. She had already been pied so well before that too but that one left her totally covered! Yet I do still find it difficult to choose between this, one of Julia's and one of Karol's as my favourite clip.


I think Esto Es Guerra Panama is my favourite of any show. Neka is my favourite from any of these shows but Joy, Joseline and to a lesser extent Sonia and Genesis are all awesome. So many messy scenes! There were occasions were the slime was less thick too but mostly this didn't ruin anything for me when it was thinner. I'd be curious to hear your favourite scenes if you have any in particular!


Was it EEG Panama or Peru that you like? Peru some stunning contestants too - more so than Panama overall, but often wasn't as good. I set-up of the show and outfits are something I enjoy too - would be great to see a return to form as you say.

Too many to choose from. EEG Peru had a great game bobbing for apples in a thick oatmeal vat while preventing a train from popping a balloon. Of course the human sundae scenes were great. And then I think from the spring of 2017 or 2018, EEG Peru just went all out and played a cake smashing trivia game every episode for about three months (Episodes are somewhere in their YT channel collection). I was very confused during this thinking the ladies were being forced to play this game by producers, because the ladies weren't doing any messy games in the few years before (or since for that matter)

From Panama, I loved the game where two ladies would get slimed together at the same time if someone else got a wrong answer. They sometimes took 5 or 6 slimings. In a different game Joy took about 8 slimings in a row and totally embraced getting completely covered. Even the egg game was good seeing about 6 eggs run down the ladies hair and onto their laps. But with this show it was all about the quantity. I think about 75% or so of their episodes are still on the shows TVN2 website. (Not much from the mud pit episodes)

Chega Mais was an emotional roller coaster being girls vs guys and the guys being stooges to keep the ladies clean. Sabrina was my early favorite and really got be hooked. Nadia was another early contestant that lasted a while, and I remember her getting "punished" in one episode for avoiding a pie or something. The blonde (Paloma I think) had a great run. One dark haired girl took about 7 pies in one episode. Please bring this back. Even a well produced youtube show centered around this format with female models would be great.


Also found this posted today, some decent pies starting at 1hr 10 (really hot pie smearing and hugging at 1hr 13 and 1hr 27

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlBoA_v4v4U

Thanks for sharing! Nice bit of pie smeared on a gorgeous bum, always thought this was more of a wetlook type show!

A shoot with a model wearing that kind of outfit would be amazing - or just one of the contestants themselves!

I agree though, a lot of what I love is in these shows. The bucket games and the pie games etc really had the potential to be fantastic and sometimes were. They also had at least some tension and usually delivered a pay off. Agree on the dramatics though, sometimes that's nothing more than a frustrating delay.


The oatmeal game was so good. I remember around 2013 they had these one off games with a contestant called Cachaza and it was just her and a large tub of slop and she had to find items at the bottom. She played it twice - one is on YouTube and I sadly lost the other (it wasn't as thick and she went in shoulder deep), which I found on a random episode post and lost the date I'd noted.

There was a contestant called Natalie Vertiz too - a former Miss Peru. Totally stunning, one of the most attractive I've seen get messy. Always used to avoid the mess though. Until she had had to play the sundae game. That was great. I was always sad that Alejandra Baigorria never had to play that but I think she was still on Combate at the time.

(Natalie later had to play the head dunk game and that was even better. Also on youtube. She was not happy about it and then played with gusto and got very messy. Amazing.)

It's funny that you mention the egg game on Panama. It really was fine most of the time but often I'd find it a bit tame, until one time it produced one of my favourite clips. During this game, Neka would always duck her head away (which meant it just coated her hair). You could tell the egg game was one of her least favourites.

One time though, unexpectedly, she looked straight up and took an absolute faceful of 5-6 eggs. It was one of those "Finally!" moments and I revelled in it.

I know the sliming scene you mean with Joy too, very good.

Lastly - Thanks for posting that scene also!! Wow!! Maybe it isn't as done and dusted as we think!! It loses something weirdly, now that I'm not familiar with the contestants, but still!

Combate Peru had a few games with some nice chunky slime (one was Balde Sorpresa or something and still might be on youtube). And then towards the very end of their run, they picked up the pace with some decent pie games (loved when they wanted revenge and end up playing 5+ rounds consecutively).

Just don't know if there are going to be any new recreations of these shows, i think every country from Mexico to the south has tried it. Many of the female cast are probably mothers now. I believe Neka had a child. She was amazing, had a great look and was a great sport. I always wonder how these cast members felt about the mess. Did they truly hate it, not mind it, even know about the wam fetish....that's the mystery.

Combate was good but aside from Alejandra, never had the cast to compete with the others. Agreed on the repeat pie rounds though.

I think most of the people that were part of the show have moved on. After all, it's been a few years now since these shows were around or at their best. I'd be surprised to ever see a show deliver such good scenes on such a consistent basis.

Often I think the emotions around mess varied between fun/competitiveness and grossed out depending on what was happening. Pies never seemed to bother the majority, slime the same. But food stuffs was a different story most of the time.

EEG Peru or Combate. Basically anytime I could see Paloma Fiuza getting pied was just perfect for me.

Genesis Arjona is now a member of the Panamanian Parliament.

I have many saved and recorded great program

Yes, these shows were amazing. It was sad in the (? i think) end of 2018 when so many of them suddenly were canceled.

The principal ones still airing are :

Guerreros Colombia (brewcrew posted above): frequent pie games

Guerreros Puerto Rico: infrequent pie games

Combate Guatemala: sometimes egg games. Did quite a few pie games a few months ago but have stopped that.

And Combate Argentina is uploading episodes with date this year, but I think those are really repeats (no distancing or protective equipment). But I read somewhere last year that they were coming back for real in April 2021. I hope that is true!

And to answer the original question, Neka was my favorite too!

I didn't know that there was a few of these shows still continuing! Based on the video above, wondering if I'm missing out on some good clips on some of those. I've probably missed a lot from different EEGs, other than Panama, Peru included. There are so many episodes and now many of them aren't easy to find.

Combate Argentina was canceled at the end of 2019, long before covid. Maybe it's coming back this year but covid wasn't the reason. And yes, the clips recently posted are from 2016-2019.

There are some that pretty much everyone missed. I think it was EeG Bolivia that for alot of its run didnt post the clips or episodes anywhere on the Internet. There are a few good scenes on youtube but also lots that nobody ever saw

For the current shows, Guerreros Colombia posts all full episodes on youtube so its easy to find pie scenes. Combate Guatemala is also on youtube, search 'webazo' for egg scenes and 'tortazo' for pie scenes. A good one from there is 3 Nov 2020 when Grecia gets many pies, first at 1:02:00 then 1:16:40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1NgQlmlf-c

It was impossible to keep up with the scenes really, even for EEG Peru (I really wish I could have due to some of the stunning contestants). Again, thank you for sharing that clip! She took those well.

Undoubtedly the pie games, when they're done right, are my favourites. Many great pie games across these shows.

Not her best but here is a clip of Neka getting clobbered https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RrYTkaRzrh0

The above clip is one of mine..... Always loved that EEG Panama game, even though, invariably, the dudes would always try to hog the spotlight (and camera time). I spent WAY more time than I should have cutting or pixelating the frat-boy idiots out of otherwise great pie scenes. Stopped putting them on YouTube after a while, tho.
(There's a great Neka one where the guys clobber her with pies after the game is over, and she's shown in extreme closeup trying--and failing--to wipe off all that sticky cream. Also, that tiny little girl took some great pies in this game. For whatever reason, her teammates tended to really blast her.)

One of the big positives with Chega/Conexao and Domingo Legal is that the clips were ALWAYS uploaded, in the same place, and (usually) the same HD quality, week after week. So you weren't in danger of missing episodes if you paid attention. By contrast, all these EEG and Combate shows were real hit-or-miss about uploading. Some great clips can only be found in poor quality, and others probably slipped through the cracks altogether. The current Guerreros shows are better, but even so, Canal1 has a bad habit of uploading poor quality video to the "official" channel, seemingly at random. A handful of nice scenes from the last 6 months were clearly shot in HD but released on YT in poor quality with blocky, pixelated artifacts. (Sorry to get snobby about video resolution.)

Thanks for uploading!! You have few good EEG clips.

I know what you mean with regards to finding them, I had to give up in the end. There were clips that I found and have since lost that were great. I remember a clip of Alejandra and Angie on EEG Peru going tit for tat until they were both covered in pie. Can't find that at all now.

This said, the Panama clips were easy enough to keep track of.

Neka was the main fall girl the majority of the time.. Got a few buckets of mustard? 10 pies?gross soup? Eggs? Slime? She took all of it and more, time and again. And as you say, no one held back either.

The clip with the pies you refer too - I think maybe this is the one where the camera also goes outside and shows her washing off too with a hose too? Swoon.

If only you could've got her in for a shoot, eh? That's worth a daydream...

I really miss the EEG peru pie games. Frustrating for sure (for me) as the guys always seemed to get more but this gal is one of my faves. For awhile, she was taking the brunt of the female pies.

Remember the "mud special" show from EEg, Guerreros or Combate? where all the games involved mud, and even the host got covered in mud. Don't remember the country but it was in one of these shows.

Haha, yeah.... If I could speak the language I would've tried to reach out to her a few years ago, who knows....

Neka was always my favorite, but I've been looking over some old clips (the one I mentioned was 2018 BTW) and she wasn't ALWAYS the fall girl. It was fairly even across all the girls. During that era, I think she was "dating" one of the guys and they'd always match them in a pie game and they'd both get covered, regardless of who answered correctly. But beyond that, she wasn't really singled out!

Example: Summer 2018 had a couple Black teammates, and the cuter one gets nailed "too hard" by the guy.... so she retaliates... and I guess they do a follow-up round, with the loser getting a GIANT pie? This girl loses and basically gets covered head to toe. Great coverage and tons of aftermath. Would've LOVED for Neka to get that same treatment, even once, but this girl takes it like a champ.

Too bad they basically wrapped the show up months later, and fazed out the pie games before then.

https://www.tvn-2.com/produccion/estoesguerra/videos/juegos/

That was Panama. Scroll down about 10 videos or so there are a small group of clips from those couple mud weeks

Imagine having admiration for the way Neka took mess and then being able to pie and slime her for yourself as part of a shoot!

I remember the giant pie clip well - it's a good one! Even more so for all the aftershot. That was the only time they did that as far as I know. A shame.

With that in mind you're right about others on the show getting very messy too. Joseline and Joy have some great scenes and so on.

The downsides of this show is the pies were sometimes hit and miss for their quality, definitely not as consistent as Chega and rarely as much mess per per pie. Which is saying something given the amount of dramatics on Esto Es Guerra compared to Chega Mais (Barbara aside...).

The slime was often thin too - sometimes too much so, but often at least enough to get some coverage. There are notable exceptions.

I also the headdunking games had made their way on to the Panama version of the show.

But often on these shows, more often than most would think, things came together so well and produced some great WAM clips.

In fairness these games were so hit and miss but when they were a hit and women like Angie, Alejandra, Cachaza etc were involved, it was amazing!! The other nice thing was that every one got messy or well pied at one point or another because they played messy/pie games so much. Even the hosts got it once or twice.

About 40 minutes is a decent round of pies for a couple ladies from the Puerto Rico Guerreros.

This channel is pretty good about streaming and putting episodes online. Seems like the pie game gets played roughly once a week.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpolgZQ7aSI

Thanks for sharing this!


I revisited some of the slime and egg games recently. The egg games are definitely underrated, even by me. Some great hair/face mess and the humiliation element that comes with them is on a par with some of the bucket games.

The slime scenes are hit and miss but there's plenty of good ones!! Joy and Neka are at the forefront of those.

I like Chega Mais, my favourite was Barbara Heck getting slimed wearing a denim shirt and a leather miniskirt, but it was a shame that the host Renata Kuerten never get messy

I have just seen this reply. I can see why Barbara would be your favourite. With regards to Renata she was recently pied on Domingo Legal https://umd.net/forums/domingo-legal-3

That said, things would have been a lot messier for her on Chega Mais at one time.

I also remember seeing some images of another show that made it seem like she was going to be pied but I don't think she was