Many of the models I work with are sploshing first timers and ask for some direction during a scene. I try to minimize my input and let the ladies explore sensation play as they see fit. When I produce a scene, it's all about the experience the models get to have, but sometimes they need some coaching especially if it's a solo scene. Despite being the event thrower, party promoter, over the top kinda guy I am, sometimes I feel odd about having participation in the scene beyond being the cupcake thrower because that's just damned awesome. So that I can create content that viewers enjoy more, I would like to know, does it bother you to hear the occasional banter that goes on between myself and the models or should that all be left to the editing room floor? I suppose there's probably also an aspect of Dom/sub element that could apply to when somebody is being instructed to make a mess, which takes beyond sensation play too..
Not the question you asked but "no"-- in fact, I like scenes with a man and a woman that do not devolve into sex. Weird! Like a tit for tat scene is great --- or, for example, a scene where the woman lets the guy have it and he turns the table in the end. Stuff like that. Seems kind of rare. Mostly because most purchasers seem to absolutely hate male involvement. To get back to your original question, I also don't mind a man being the "Oz" behind the scenes -- speaking throwing, etc. No offense intended, but most (wammer) men are better at pieing females than women are .
A guy giving directions doesn't 'bother' me but it's definitely on the lower end of the spectrum of 'want to hear'. I haven't put much thought into it , but guess if I had to generally rate it from least to most:
- Off camera guy giving instructions - Off camera girl giving instructions - General Chatter - Guy in the scene giving girl instructions - Musical background (this could vary with the type of music) Been doing my own for personal consumption, but would love to see some MMV 'Messy Music Videos' along the same lines as PMV / Porn Music Videos - Sound of the mud, pies or slime slopping around / splatting / dripping - Girls using their phonics...ahhh, eeehh, ohhh, oooh, uhhh and sometimes mmmmm - General rhythmic moaning, slowly building with a sudden crescendo! - Sounds indicating the girl is truly enjoying the experience - - Uncoached / honest laughter, giggling - - Uncoached / honest use of phonics - - Real moaning - Girl in the scene giving other girl in the scene directions - and possibly 'punishment' if she gets it wrong - Girl in the scene describing what she is feeling - especially hitting all the gooey, thick, sticky, creamy, warm, slippery, slimy, etc adjectives and making them sound sensual. - All of the above with a music background - Girl(s) in the scene giving ME directions - and possibly 'punishment' if I get it wrong. (But, yeah, not exactly holding my breath here! ) ...with a music background
If you're into the musical side of things, you'll probably be into why I started had originally started messyhot, which was to combine dance music and cake...
In several of my scenes I have celebrity guest cupcake throwers from the happy hardcore scene who have also contributed tracks to be used as backing for the scenes!
Context is important; in some scenes it is inecessary for a male voice to be heard. For example, the MessyGirl BJ shoot with Zeyda as a Messy Maid. If her asshole of a boss didn't say to her that she was doing a lousy job and he wanted her to suck his dick, she wouldn't know that her asshole of a boss thought she was doing a lousy job and that he wanted her to suck his dick.
mud_adventures said: A guy giving directions doesn't 'bother' me but it's definitely on the lower end of the spectrum of 'want to hear'. I haven't put much thought into it , but guess if I had to generally rate it from least to most:
- Off camera guy giving instructions - Off camera girl giving instructions - General Chatter - Guy in the scene giving girl instructions - Musical background (this could vary with the type of music) Been doing my own for personal consumption, but would love to see some MMV 'Messy Music Videos' along the same lines as PMV / Porn Music Videos - Sound of the mud, pies or slime slopping around / splatting / dripping - Girls using their phonics...ahhh, eeehh, ohhh, oooh, uhhh and sometimes mmmmm - General rhythmic moaning, slowly building with a sudden crescendo! - Sounds indicating the girl is truly enjoying the experience - - Uncoached / honest laughter, giggling - - Uncoached / honest use of phonics - - Real moaning - Girl in the scene giving other girl in the scene directions - and possibly 'punishment' if she gets it wrong - Girl in the scene describing what she is feeling - especially hitting all the gooey, thick, sticky, creamy, warm, slippery, slimy, etc adjectives and making them sound sensual. - All of the above with a music background - Girl(s) in the scene giving ME directions - and possibly 'punishment' if I get it wrong. (But, yeah, not exactly holding my breath here! ) ...with a music background
I too would like to see messy music videos. I have a background in film and music and would love to add mess into what I know. Any particular examples of messy music videos that you can send me for inspiration?
Wamlanta said: I've never once watched a scene and thought to myself, "I'm really glad that guy is talking; he really adds to my enjoyment".
I'd figured most experiences weren't enhanced by it. Curious for how many people it fully ruins it. Seems like about a 50% ratio
If it's just an off camera voice it's not a deal breaker for most. If it's instructions it's a MAJOR deal breaker for most. Most guys do not want a male in the video either on screen or off screen if they have a choice. Of course if it's a video for guys who like guys IN videos..different story obviously.