So in 18 years I have never asked for advice, nor do I need it. But what I would like to ask UMD members is preferences, probably not going to make any more Pie/Slime movies as I am not equipped for it. I am not saying I will make a movie with just your preferences, or pick the model you like but I would like to know generally what you guys like. Things I would like to know are in general terms, more specific answers than just a yes/no poll.
2. Model Preference. Blondes, redheads, brunets? Tall, short, tall, skinny, a bit heavy, average? Boobs size, big, average and small?
3. Wardrobe. Do you prefer models dressed in role play outfits, lingerie, bikinis or just naked?
4. Sex. Do you prefer videos where the models just have fun, fighting, JOI, being erotic or just slutty girls who wana fuck
5. Erotic Acts. DO you just want to see then play in the Mud, erotic touching, masturbating, playing with toys or straight up fucking?
6. Tell me what puts you off a video. types of girls, size of girls, quality of video, length of a video?
7. Change Nothing. Phil your full of shit, just keep doing what you do.
If you do want something specific, I am not doing customs via the UMD. However I have partnered with Nyssa to do customs via loyalfans, she does it 70% of the time, they make it a lot simpler and safer for Model and Customer financially. Price per minute type deal.
1. Color doesn't matter to me. Thick and gooey cosistency.
2. Fit models, hour glass figure, Average to small size
3. Start in outfits, with high heels, end up naked. (Models with heels up in the air our of the mud)
4. Anything on this range from play to full on fucking
5. Anything from sexy allure to all out fucking and sitting on each other's faces.
6. Pour quality video (You don't have an issue here).
7. You largely make the kind that I like already. My input is mostly about details. I would like some more acting and humilitation scenarios with other elements I mentioned included.
wamguy65 said: 1. Color doesn't matter to me. Thick and gooey cosistency.
2. Fit models, hour glass figure, Average to small size
3. Start in outfits, with high heels, end up naked. (Models with heels up in the air our of the mud)
4. Anything on this range from play to full on fucking
5. Anything from sexy allure to all out fucking and sitting on each other's faces.
6. Pour quality video (You don't have an issue here).
7. You largely make the kind that I like already. My input is mostly about details. I would like some more acting and humilitation scenarios with other elements I mentioned included.
I agree except for number 3. For me, I like to see girls in 1 piece swimsuits or bikinis...no high heels...messy shoes does nothing for me. The girls should always end up naked tho!
Dirty Muse said: So in 18 years I have never asked for advice, nor do I need it. But what I would like to ask UMD members is preferences, probably not going to make any more Pie/Slime movies as I am not equipped for it. I am not saying I will make a movie with just your preferences, or pick the model you like but I would like to know generally what you guys like. Things I would like to know are in general terms, more specific answers than just a yes/no poll.
2. Model Preference. Blondes, redheads, brunets? Tall, short, tall, skinny, a bit heavy, average? Boobs size, big, average and small?
3. Wardrobe. Do you prefer models dressed in role play outfits, lingerie, bikinis or just naked?
4. Sex. Do you prefer videos where the models just have fun, fighting, JOI, being erotic or just slutty girls who wana fuck
5. Erotic Acts. DO you just want to see then play in the Mud, erotic touching, masturbating, playing with toys or straight up fucking?
6. Tell me what puts you off a video. types of girls, size of girls, quality of video, length of a video?
7. Change Nothing. Phil your full of shit, just keep doing what you do.
If you do want something specific, I am not doing customs via the UMD. However I have partnered with Nyssa to do customs via loyalfans, she does it 70% of the time, they make it a lot simpler and safer for Model and Customer financially. Price per minute type deal.
Phil
1. light gray OR dark black; thick, as if they could easily sink (but they'll resurface... to go back in again)
2. a mix of average and athletic; boob size doesn't matter. Hair color doesn't matter (heck she can be bald!)
3. bikinis, or barefoot in overalls/jeans
4. having fun, or JOI
5. play in the mud, getting aroused and squealing, the filthier (and further) they get
6. face-first to get the ladies' faces muddy. While it's nice to see, I prefer when the face is the last to go in (they're trying to float, and the mud engulfs the face, with the nose/mouth being the last seen. That, OR the top of the scalp is the last part of the head the audience sees)
wamguy65 said: 1. Color doesn't matter to me. Thick and gooey cosistency.
2. Fit models, hour glass figure, Average to small size
3. Start in outfits, with high heels, end up naked. (Models with heels up in the air our of the mud)
4. Anything on this range from play to full on fucking
5. Anything from sexy allure to all out fucking and sitting on each other's faces.
I would agree with this. I do really like the pudding-consistency mud too.
6. No submerging/head dunking. There can't be enough of that for me, and if I see a video where the model doesn't go under, that's a total deal breaker.
Great input guys, this is helpful, keep it coming.
PierreLePie, make an account on loyalfans here is Nyssa's profile, costs nothing: https://www.loyalfans.com/Nyssa-Nevers Click on Instant Messaging on the right side, tell her what you would like. LF handles everything very professionally and Nyssa has never let one singe customer down that I know of in 15 years...
We live within a few minutes of each other so tell her what you are thinking about and who else you would like in the video, she will figure out a price, when its possible and how to do it with my help. The nice thing about Nyssa and myself is that together we know almost ever Porn star and Fetish model still working in the USA. (Hell I even know a few in Europe too)
The variety of videos that you have done in the past have been amazing and i think you have catered for most mu lovers.
Personally i prefer naturally curvy girls. I love latex/PVC but once it gets messy you can't tell what outfit it is anyway. I loved your full sex in mud videos but i understand they involve more money for full sex and 2 performers.
All your videos are of an outstanding quality and other mud producers should be looking at your work as the best in it's class
First point - death by committee ruins all scenes. Make what YOU like and would like us to see, and I'm sure the audience will love it.
That being said - thin/fit, big titted blondes or brunettes getting full on mud fucked, you have my attention sir!
The only thing that's a shame is you backing away from the pies, because some of those scenes were WORLD CLASS! Thinking of Kendra tied and pied in Homewrecker, or her scene with Danielle, right now.
Dynamic polls would have been nice for those type of questions
1. Your clay pits were always awesome. Wouldnt change a thing. Your chocolate clay pits was one of my all time preferred.
2. I like all your models. I think brunette have a little something with the color contrast of their hair with the light clay. Boobs it's great to have 2 models with different boob size..
3. This is where I verge a bit from the DM style. I really like the scene to start casual.. think gym outfit.. or tight jeans and t-shirt.. really the girl next door thing. I like when they strip to some sport underwear or even lingerie. It becomes like a second scene when that happens.
4-5 : The wrestling.. or playful fighting.. escalating to kissing maybe escalating to sex. Love the tension build up. A girl dominating the other during the wrestling for then the action to get even
6: tbh.. I dont think I've ever bought a video where the girls starts naked.getting clothes messy is an essential part of my fun. Also doesnt apply to you but some go with too much clothes like coats and big sweaters.. that's a bit too much for me and usually dont buy them neither.
7. It's pretty cool that you are asking around. I think what you do is awesome and you are hitting all the right things. The only change I could see who could open up a few more customers is starting clothed. Lots of us around here like a pair of jeans, leggings, shorts.. t-shirt, tank-top.. sports bra.. and then going with lingerie under or to the naked part. It really becomes like 2 scenes at once.
1. Runny to pudding consistency. Smooth and all-enveloping.
2. The most important feature of a model is that she's clearly having fun.
3. Fully clothed. Utility boilersuits and wellies. Denim dungarees (overalls) and wellies. PVC catsuits. Jeans and t-shirts. Spandex catsuits or leggings and top. Tracksuits, or tight, full-length running / workout gear. Dislike skimpy outfits, dislike nudity.
4. No interest in sex, I don't buy hardcore scenes.
5. Fully clothed erotic touching can be very hot. One girl is already waist deep in the mud, her jeans covered and just her top clean. Another girl, also in jeans, is only muddy to the knees, first girl picks up a nice handful of mud and presses / smears it into the crotch of the clean one, who responds with pleasure as she feels the mud soaking through the denim between her legs. Also clothes filling - pouring mud inside each other's outfits isn't something we see very often (needs real flowing liquid mud for this).
6. Bad or idiotic camera work. Being so obsessed with keeping the model's head in shot that the money-shots of her stepping down into the mud, or sitting on something, or having her jeans or skirt messed up, are missed.
Having a model in trousers but then acting as if she's in a skirt with obsesson with pulling the legs up and messing with tights worn underneath. If I buy a scene of a model in trousers, it's because I want to see her get messy in trousers. If I wanted a skirt / tights scene, I'd buy one.
Also those hideous low-rise clothes that were in fashion in the 00s are an abomination before the gods and an absolute "no-purchase" for me. High waist or no sale.
7. Well, you've a long and highly regarded career, and your mud pits are legendary.
1 - Not black. A consistency that you can hear the splat when they land in it.
2 - No real preferences. I don't like nipple piercings but if it ticked all the other boxes it wouldn't be enough to put me off.
3 - Nude throughout
4 - Anything upto and including JOI. Not particularly into the fucking. Although the one Carmen did last year was sensational.
5 - The one Cadence Lux did for MG last year, where she got pushed in face first with her hands tied behind her back and just rolled around in it for ages trying to free herself. That was perfect.
6 - No nudity/no faceplanting. It needs both or I won't buy it. The more of each, the better.
1. The color of the mud should contrast with the color of the clothing in my eyes. To me seeing white or light colored clothing in darker or black mud is better because I imagine it will be stained for life. Seeing red or darker colored clothing in grey mud shows a better contrast. I like the mud to be pudding consistency where models have to work to walk making their falling into it more believable. 2. I have always found brunettes sexier in life. That said, hair color does not matter as much as seeing that the model has put effort into the hair styling. Bonus points decorative scrunchies or similar hair accessories. Size of the model does not matter as much as attitude. By that, I mean the model gets into the role whether that is enjoying the mess, pretending to be upset, etc. Boob size is also not a concern as long as the model has not had implants so large they are unreal. 3. I am really into nice clothing. Smart look business attire, wedding dresses, prom dresses, etc. are all nice to see messed up. Always enjoyed Three Stooges pie fights when the upper class looking model got pied. Whatever the mess is, starting fully clothed then down to lingerie after the outer layer is totally covered then to nude is my preference. 4. Any of these are okay. I always enjoy models having fun with the mess. Mud or oil wrestling is always fun. JOI can be fun, erotic or sex between real lovers can be nice. JOI and all the rest are not in my purchase aims. 5. These are all not in my target for content, but are okay. 6. More of what attracts me than repulses. Multiple angles of the mess happening. A nice clean up scene where the model showers especially if in clothing. Better if the model was nude and puts the messy clothing back on then removes it again during the clean up. The only put off I would highlight is the model truly upset. 7. Keep doing what you enjoy. I want to see a nicely dressed model have her clothing ruined. Bonus if the clothing gets so heavy it falls off or is taken off. Then the clean off. But that is me. Followed you since the Rob Blaine newsletter days.
1. The ideal color for me would completely contrast what color of clothes and look the model has on (dark on light or light on dark), but any single striking mud color overriding the colors they have clean works for me. As for consistency, I only ask for it to be sticky but ideally I'd love a midpoint where it's runny enough to make up whatever clothes they're wearing. Having the color changing by the season would be great.
2. I'm all for variety in body types. Makes it easier to identify multiple girls when they're coated in the same color. But I do lean onto curvy and busty bodies.
3. Big on wardrobe play. Anything works; fully clothed (especially the secretary or maid look, but casuals or party girl outfits work too), or in lingerie or bikinis. Plus points it's the classic WAM style where they start off fully dressed down to a full lingerie set, covering and slowly shedding pieces of their clothes to lighten the load, stripping to toplessness or nudity 50-75% of the way in. I don't even mind them keeping their full lingerie or bikini set on all the way through. Shoes are welcomed but logically they come off early. Big part of the appeal is a good round of clothes trashing.
4/5. Definitely leaning more into mud play (either the fun or fighty variety) before progressing to suggestive rubbing, caressing and kissing towards the end. Sexual stuff is best saved for last.
6. Only issue: Watching all the clothing coming off too early saps out the fun of it.
7. If nothing above works out, your current setup is fine as it is. The mud quality alone is top notch.
ArchNemesis said: First point - death by committee ruins all scenes. Make what YOU like and would like us to see, and I'm sure the audience will love it.
That being said - thin/fit, big titted blondes or brunettes getting full on mud fucked, you have my attention sir!
The only thing that's a shame is you backing away from the pies, because some of those scenes were WORLD CLASS! Thinking of Kendra tied and pied in Homewrecker, or her scene with Danielle, right now.
Gonna co_sign Dont lose your soul in public opinion I learned that the hard way
1. No real preference on colour. Maybe you could have a pool of darker colour and then have buckets of grey/something lighter color to make it pop a bit. Prefer thick, gooey consistency 2. Hair color no preference. Personally I like bigger boobs, curvy/average models especially for mud scenes 3. Love when they start in lingerie and bikinis as long as they get at least topless 4. As long as they're having fun. Sometimes a dildo/JOI scene is fun but also just as enjoyable watching them duck their heads under over and over and rolling around 5. I think mud masturbation is where it's at if they're into it. 6. Usually if I'm not interested in the model or I don't think they get enough coverage. They don't get at least topless 7. love the content and hope it keeps coming.
Phil my wife and I follow everything you do. We are mud fetishists. Thank you!
We both agree the number one video for mud people is the Caitlyn and Celeste mud pit video. Mf-2 or something. Everything about it. Two completely naked girl next door women walking up to a mud pit. Tatto/piercing free girls. They honestly don't look like they belong. I think the one has fake tits butt they are extremely beautiful. They may have had there hair done? Natural big deep mud hole. The video is over an hour of energetic mud play. If you could recreate that you would have a masterpiece. If you got the same women! Wow!
1. Black with a contrasting outfit like white lace. Thicker consistency closer to cake batter.
2. Seeing the model getting progressively hornier the more they get covered in mess is a bigger sell than body type.
3. Could start off as a librarian or other outfit fully clothed, transitioning to lingerie and then naked.
4. Falls into a mud pit humiliated. Progressively goes from a good girl having a bad time to the mud coverage bringing out the inner bad girl having a good time.
5. The outfit and shoes getting fucked is the first act. The girl fucking the mud until she cums is the second half. Your videos with the ass dips in mud are peak mud porn. How about some repeated muddy camel toe shots where the model is in a bent back cowgirl position and beating out all the lumps left in the clay between her legs? From experience, the girl will need some grips to get in a good angle. Tie down some push up bars to some cinder blocks and position them behind the model so she can get in the proper height and thrust for good contact with the mud.
6. Lots of short, rapid cuts. Other producers do this and it can ruin a scene. Your picture in picture moments from recent videos are great. Other letdowns: low energy models. If the mud coverage isn't acting like a sexual enabler, it's a dull scene.
7. Keep making a quality product and the market will respond accordingly.
Hi, I was always passive in the community, but maybe I can help you HELLO EVERONE first of all: your content ALWAYS was way over the the top and I enjoeyed it always
For the first point: 1. The stickier the mud gets, the nicer the reactions of the actresses I like it dark, but if it sticks to your body, I dont care about the colour
2. I, personally prefere redheads, but everyone has its favorite, I dont care if a beautiful girl with red or blonde hair gets covered in mud I cant see the colour anyways, if she's covered properly
3. I, personally prefere an outfit, that DOESNT fit at all the situation. Like: super proper outfit, and a really dirty and disgusting mudpit the contrast is the key...more make up, more mud
4. Just naturally having fun is the best....but suddenly getting called to jerk of, is a nice idea
5. I like it, if the actress, gets into the mud, holding herself back, and when shes completely covered, letting loose of all the instincts....but thats only my favor
6.No talking.....thats a thing that bothers me the most.......let the women talk about her experience and her feelings in the dirt. So I can emerge in the game