hi everyone. Is there a good dating app like tender or grinder that is good because these suck please help. i know it's not messy but i'll looking to get out in the dating world but i'm shy and people don't like me i don't know why please help

Yeah, tinder is more for attractive people that just want to fuck, and only in large cities. Also for getting scammed because there are a TON of bots on there. I have had some success with Bumble. Nothing serious ever came from it, but I met and talked with someone for a while.

Being shy isn't the end of the world, or even the end of the dating world. I'm fairly introverted and not the best conversationalist. That's ok, you get better at talking to people the more you do it, and the more familiar you are with them.

I'm curious why you think people don't like you though? Have people told you this, or given you reason to believe this, or is it a preconceived notion you have?

I think you're going to have the best success meeting someone with similar interests if your somewhere doing something you enjoy. For instance, if you really liked tai chi, take a class. Furthermore, if you're engaged in an activity you enjoy, chances are you'll be more at ease and peace with yourself. So you're less likely to be nervous. The biggest thing to keep in mind is that if you have a conversation and it doesn't work out, leave it there. Don't dwell on why, this will lead you down a path of self-loathing (something I struggle with A LOT).

You are you, embrace you, and just go one step at a time. Feel free to PM me to if you like.

Best Wishes,
Jason