BLUF, are there any lesser known (or lesser discussed) producers whom really make a great custom?

I'm not knocking any producer here, as this is not a report of a scam at all. I have ordered the same general clip several times from several producers, but it's never been quite right. I can't be upset since the general problem lies with the simplicity of my request, each production team I have ordered from has gone "above and beyond" and got creative to fill in for my lack of direction. Though this is very admirable, what I end up with is about two minutes of what I actually wanted, and about 8-15 minutes of content I crop out.

I understand that the resale value of my custom for the producers site is important, and my request is pretty specific to me...but frankly, I'm about $1000 in on a custom that I have attempted to have done multiple times with no success. My intent is not to be rude, but I'm beginning to think that flat out saying "and don't do anything more than what was mentioned" is about my only option.

Again, I truly feel that the fine people running the stores are trying to make it even better than I imagined, so my question is this...what is the most polite, but clear cut way to request that no creative liberties are taken? I feel like everyone here (producing content, anyway) is a top notch person (and then there is Regis), so I really would hate to offend anyone; but I would love to get some advice on this.

hard to say without knowing what the request was.

There is no better way than being politely specific. A custom will have a very tight shooting script (they do when I [we] do them anyway). Every part agreed and signed off before shooting.

By choosing any particular producer you are usually suggesting you like their house style and a bit of riffing (to give you extra) is not usually minded.

So be specific and precise. This isn't rudeness - it's helpful. It might mean the scene cannot be made as a 'sell though' - ie it will be too niche to even hope to make its money back - so this might mean a higher cost.

I have written many scripts and I have found that you have to tell them EXACTLY what you want. Mention how other producers got it wrong.

I find that if you leave it up to the producers to guess, they will get it wrong.

For example, I like clothes ripped off in my videos. I have put in earlier scripts, "She then rips her boss's dress off." And producers translate that as I like clothes ripping as a fetish, so they rip and rip and rip the clothes taking up lots of screen time (to my dismay). In later scripts, I have written "She rips her boss's dress off." Then (in italics) I write "Keep in mind that its not about the ripping per se. Its about the humiliation of having her clothes violently removed from her body. It should only take 1 minute or so. If it takes longer, edit that down because I don't want half of the screen time I am paying for to be about that."

Again, tell these folks EXACTLY what you want.

I can't recommend Hannah Perez enough. I recently hired her to do a catfight/piefight video for me and she took the time to add a bunch of extras I did not ask for, and the movie came out FANTASTIC because of her extra efforts. She added in a green screen background, audio of an audience getting into it and sound effects to go with each punch. I commended her on her efforts and she said she is at a point in her career that she cannot turn out an inferior product. She gives every movie her all.

That said, she isn't cheap for us WAM people. And I am the reason that is the case. I have hired her so many times that she now knows that WAM shoots are a ton of work and take LOTS of time before and afterwards. So the price reflects that. She used to just charge me the regular rate plus supplies. Now she charges me almost double. I am not complaining because she has provided me with the best videos I own. Making custom fetish videos is her whole life. This is not something she does on just Saturdays or whatever. She is TOP DRAWER.

The last few videos she has done for me are almost perfect. Two reasons:

1. My scripts have gotten more precise. I tell her EXACTLY what I want.
2. Her business is in full swing and she has the highest standards for herself.

We do customs, and so far we've had great feedback (and significant repeat business) from the people who we've shot for. My advice would be:

1. Be very specific about the things you particularly want to see happening, and how they should be filmed. A good producer will ask you what camera angles you want anyway but it's always good to be specific - and to have worked out yourself what you want to see.

2. Don't worry about offending anyone by being specific and explicit about what you want to receive. While yes, producers do also consider resale potential, anyone doing customs should have priced them to cover full shooting cost plus a little profit, so any extra sales are entirely bonuses without having to worry about reaching break-even. TBH in our case we give an option for the scene not to be resold and only ever supplied to the original customer, though that does cost more (as we'll never make any further income from it) and no-one has taken us up on it yet.

3. Pick a producer who's normal work is reasonably close to what you're after. For example we do fully clothed and focus heavily on the actual messing up of the clothes - when our girls are doing trouser-filling for instance we'll usually shoot a reasonably close-up shot of the receiving girl's trunk, crotch, and upper legs, so you see the mess pouring in, the fabric moving as the filling goes in, and then the stains and wetness coming through the material as it flows down inside. To me that is the money-shot in a scene like that so I want it full screen, others may shoot from further back to keep the model's face in view so you can see her reactions. Now we'd do a "reactions" view if asked, and do sometimes do that anyway, but if someone asks for clothes filling as part of a custom then unless they specify the further out shot I'll probably assume they want it shot close up of the area being filled.

One thing I have discovered from shooting scenes in general is that it's incredibly easy for a model to interpret what I think are clear and unambiguous instructions in a way that is completely different to what I meant. This isn't anyone's fault, most of the time when it's come up it's been because the model is trying to keep things interesting for the audience, and I've not explicitly specified that I do actually want the same action repeated multiple times the same way. This came up in a scene involving pies, where I'd thought "and then pie each other lots of times, back and forth" was clear, but the girls assumed that just plastering each other in the face straight on more than once at a time would be boring and kept trying to find alternative ways to do each other. Now I know when doing the clean run-through before we shoot to specify "just flan each other in the face, straight on, six times each with no variation, then perhaps do a sandwich and then back to the straight-in-the-face ones." Likewise I point out with all the various actions that if a customer is watching and gets turned on by a specific action, they're going to want that section to last a decent length of time, so keep doing it, don't assume that because you've done something once the next thing has to be different.

Both Charlottemostwam and Rev Slymsford in the UK provide excellent custom sessions (read the many positive replies from satisfied customers ) and in my experience both communicate on a regular basis to try and make sure the customer's specific requests are met and happy with the result.

It all comes down to communication and developing a professional rapport with the producer. I've commissioned many customs lately, and while I'd consider some more "successful" than others, any that didn't 100% nail what I was looking for were more than likely a result of me not going the extra mile to completely articulate my wishes. Virtually every producer in the genre wants to have satisfied customers, so just establish a dialogue about what you want and if it's feasible for that particular producer and model.

That said, I've learned to accept the human element involved as part of the risk you assume, especially with different models. Some just "get it" and others might not be there yet. That's why it's important to work with a producer who can make sure you have the right model for the scene you want. For example, Violet from Anatomik Media does a phenomenal job of letting me know, "Model X has a weak stomach and probably wouldn't be a good fit; Model Y loves doing WAM scenes and would be perfect."

How specific are you talking?
How badly do you want this?

I'm thinking that the BEST way to get the product you want is to actually be THERE directing it. This way, you can sort of help them act out the scene before any mess or clothes destruction, etc takes place.

Depending on your location, budget, and producer, this could be a possibility. But this is all without knowing what you want.

Everything that has been said about being very specific is right. Fetish interests can be so detailed and so specific to each person that it can be impossible to get more than part of what you want even when you're the one directing. A big help is finding a performer that is well known and has a body of work you can look at and take from. MPV has one customer who returns to one particular model because she understands exactly what this person wants without his having to get too detailed. We have more than one customer who send detailed scripts and wardrobe for specific models only. This eliminates as many variables as possible and ensures a better "fit" for the customer.

Things don't always have to be that way if you are wiling to accept something less specific. For example we had one guy who asked to see one model in a particular type of wardrobe swinging on a vine and getting in and out and so forth. He wasn't very specific and it was going to be both easy to shoot and easy to sell so we didn't even charge him. After we were done the guy was ecstatic with what he got for "free".

Thank you all so very much for the replies. I see now, that I have once again not given enough detail. Honestly the responses that make mention of that have reinforced that this problem is coming from my end.

I won't go I to the specifics of what the custom is, because I feel like everyone whom has taken it on was very kind, and very obviously made the custom with their best intentions. Since I know it is specific, any producer that reads this will likely remember it, and possibly feel as though it is a personal attack. I have nothing but respect for those I have commissioned so I would like to avoid that.

To restate my point in the way I initially meant it, I know the issue is my own. Bozo1, the ripped clothing scenario probably best replicates my issue, and I will absolutely be utilizing your scripting method on my next attempt. I know that the extra stuff included in the scenes delivered to me were acts of genuine intent to make the video better for me, and that is why i have never complained, asked for a reshoot, or a refund. I know I'm new to this forum, and wanted to take the most amicable approach possible as I have nothing but respect to those that attempt the impossible specifics I know you endure.

The general consensus leads me to believe that a producer would not find it offensive if I bluntly stated that I would like them to leave any additional creativity out, so I will try this. I will likely feel like an absolute asshole when I say it, but hopefully it isn't a mutual feeling to whomever I am discussing it with